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Some of the area's prettiest settings are enjoyed on most days by homeless people, who find many services downtown.

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Dragonfly Hummingbird

Port Orange, FL

#1 Nov 18, 2013
In other cities, the homeless are given a corner to sweep with a vest, trash can and a walkie talkie. They give directions to tourists. I have seen the homeless in Salvation Army Uniforms in San Antonio, collecting donations. What happened to the program that Daytona had to employ homeless for clean up tasks?
Joe

Fort Pierce, FL

#2 Nov 18, 2013
There was an article from the news journal about Jack White building condominiums on Magnolia, another article in the news journal, about building on the site of Jackie Robinson Ball Park. Then the same area was used to promote the idea of providing, for the homeless thru donations from the Baptist church. It's a redirection of tax dollars. Government buy's or takes control of the property using tax dollars then they sell the land to the Whites at a fraction of the price with misleading intentions to the public, the same properties become involved in something that can be used as tax exempt.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#3 Nov 28, 2013
The whole problem with what to do with these people is separating the truly homeless because of economic conditions from the maggots and cockroaches who choose that lifestyle. The first you help where you can but the second will hang around and play on the sympathy of the public as long as you let them. They are like a stray dog or cat. You feed them, and they will stay and keep coming back for more, more, and more. You stop feeding them and they will move on somewhere else. So it comes to the decision to keep enabling their hobo lifestyle or limiting efforts to help only those who want to help themselves. Remind the public to NEVER EVER give these street people money directly regardless of their sad story. If you want to help, give money to the shelters and missions where the money will be spent on the real needs and not dope, cigarettes, and liquor.
ormond resident

Ormond Beach, FL

#4 Nov 29, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
The whole problem with what to do with these people is separating the truly homeless because of economic conditions from the maggots and cockroaches who choose that lifestyle. The first you help where you can but the second will hang around and play on the sympathy of the public as long as you let them. They are like a stray dog or cat. You feed them, and they will stay and keep coming back for more, more, and more. You stop feeding them and they will move on somewhere else. So it comes to the decision to keep enabling their hobo lifestyle or limiting efforts to help only those who want to help themselves. Remind the public to NEVER EVER give these street people money directly regardless of their sad story. If you want to help, give money to the shelters and missions where the money will be spent on the real needs and not dope, cigarettes, and liquor.
The only cockroaches I see are the one's who make comments like these. You must be a Ted Cruz supporter!
Most of the homeless 95% of them have some sort of mental illness.
Joe

Fort Pierce, FL

#5 Dec 2, 2013
Pat Northey is against the idea of building a facility for the homeless. Northey has questions as to where the financing will come from beliving that Volusia County should not be responsible for regular costs with the idea that it should be an organized effort. Northey is also concerned about the funding having an effect on the judicial system. Northey admits that homework has to be done, and that all the answers are not there~! <<
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#6 Dec 12, 2013
ormond resident wrote:
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The only cockroaches I see are the one's who make comments like these. You must be a Ted Cruz supporter!
Most of the homeless 95% of them have some sort of mental illness.
I doubt the 95%! There are those with mental problems that should be in the care of their families or in a state institution under lock and key. The others may TELL you they have no family but the truth is that their family won't put up with their refusal to work and their filthy hobo lifestyle .As long as there are bleeding hearts out there being sucked in to their line of lies and long sad tales, they will infest an area like bugs waiting to hit up another fool up for money for their booze, smokes, or drugs. Take off the rose colored glasses and get a real look.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#7 Dec 13, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> I doubt the 95%! There are those with mental problems that should be in the care of their families or in a state institution under lock and key. The others may TELL you they have no family but the truth is that their family won't put up with their refusal to work and their filthy hobo lifestyle .As long as there are bleeding hearts out there being sucked in to their line of lies and long sad tales, they will infest an area like bugs waiting to hit up another fool up for money for their booze, smokes, or drugs. Take off the rose colored glasses and get a real look.
The reason that you have a problem with other peoples comments is because you're blaming your doubts on someone else. There shouldn't be any doubt that you know people with mental issues but you would rather listen to other people that don't go out of the way to speak to family members that don't care [unlike yourself] It describes the mental problem that you have. It's called a line of lies. or a long sad tale. You're infesting the area with an opinion that isn't yours or even has a valid point in solving a problem. The dark cloud over you head belongs to you it isn't someone else's responsibility to take the blame for your issues.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#8 Dec 13, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text> The reason that you have a problem with other peoples comments is because you're blaming your doubts on someone else. There shouldn't be any doubt that you know people with mental issues but you would rather listen to other people that don't go out of the way to speak to family members that don't care [unlike yourself] It describes the mental problem that you have. It's called a line of lies. or a long sad tale. You're infesting the area with an opinion that isn't yours or even has a valid point in solving a problem. The dark cloud over you head belongs to you it isn't someone else's responsibility to take the blame for your issues.
Since you you're at ease with that group of social dropouts, step up to your convictions and take three or four to your comfortable home and take them in. Shouldn't be a problem for you because they deserve equal to what you have worked for. can we sign you up for two, three, more?
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#9 Dec 13, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>Since you you're at ease with that group of social dropouts, step up to your convictions and take three or four to your comfortable home and take them in. Shouldn't be a problem for you because they deserve equal to what you have worked for. can we sign you up for two, three, more?
Your just adding to the point that your doubts are your problem. You're a dropout because you want someone else to solve a problem for you- again. Doubting Thomas.
Joe

Fort Pierce, FL

#10 Dec 14, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> I doubt the 95%! There are those with mental problems that should be in the care of their families or in a state institution under lock and key. The others may TELL you they have no family but the truth is that their family won't put up with their refusal to work and their filthy hobo lifestyle .As long as there are bleeding hearts out there being sucked in to their line of lies and long sad tales, they will infest an area like bugs waiting to hit up another fool up for money for their booze, smokes, or drugs. Take off the rose colored glasses and get a real look.
Your problem is you've already decided that homes should be found for people that don't want to work because the people that you know [according to you ] just don't care.
joe

Fort Pierce, FL

#12 Dec 14, 2013
An F.B.I. investigation into $50m missing in a real estate scandal & the separate [=possibly connected] fraudulent funds being misused by Halifax Health Care [with Jeff Feasel under strong suspicion] has the F.B.I. investigation banks & lending institutions connected to political favors with influence from the local government in securing loans under false pretenses [Waverly] The slow moving investigation has Ramara Garrett James Sotolongo Chris Mencis Sidney Coton & James Heflin Brown in protective custody despite the rumors of probation- bonding out or receiving any consideration. Fraudulent [slush ] fund organizations [Echo- H.A.A. C.V.B. and other illegally obtained properties that direct where the money is being used only excist on paper. Strong suspicion surrounds Joyce Cusack Derrick Henry [again] and Josh Wagner.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#13 Dec 18, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text> Your problem is you've already decided that homes should be found for people that don't want to work because the people that you know [according to you ] just don't care.
You're talking in circles. Regroup and try again.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#14 Dec 19, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text>You're talking in circles. Regroup and try again.
You have trouble comprehending the point of your own comments
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#15 Dec 19, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text> You have trouble comprehending the point of your own comments
Posts #10 &12 had to be submitted after doing a big DOOBIE as normal thinking wouldn't come up with crap like that! Back up and repost when you're more in control.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#16 Dec 19, 2013
joe wrote:
An F.B.I. investigation into $50m missing in a real estate scandal & the separate [=possibly connected] fraudulent funds being misused by Halifax Health Care [with Jeff Feasel under strong suspicion] has the F.B.I. investigation banks & lending institutions connected to political favors with influence from the local government in securing loans under false pretenses [Waverly] The slow moving investigation has Ramara Garrett James Sotolongo Chris Mencis Sidney Coton & James Heflin Brown in protective custody despite the rumors of probation- bonding out or receiving any consideration. Fraudulent [slush ] fund organizations [Echo- H.A.A. C.V.B. and other illegally obtained properties that direct where the money is being used only excist on paper. Strong suspicion surrounds Joyce Cusack Derrick Henry [again] and Josh Wagner.
You won't be able to comprehend this because of your psychotic behavior. It means real estate money has been stolen tax dollars are being misused that effect the homeless. Making them dependent on government assistance programs. Forcing them to take advantage of the program because over $50 million in real estate investment money has been laundered thru false organization. This was written for others to comprehend letting Them KNow that this investigation is moving forward slowly. Someone other that yourself will not have trouble understanding the point. It was written on the same date that you couldn't deal with harsh criticism. Clearly and comprehensively !
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#17 Dec 19, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text> You won't be able to comprehend this because of your psychotic behavior. It means real estate money has been stolen tax dollars are being misused that effect the homeless. Making them dependent on government assistance programs. Forcing them to take advantage of the program because over $50 million in real estate investment money has been laundered thru false organization. This was written for others to comprehend letting Them KNow that this investigation is moving forward slowly. Someone other that yourself will not have trouble understanding the point. It was written on the same date that you couldn't deal with harsh criticism. Clearly and comprehensively !
"Strong suspicion" is really a firm basis for your post. If you're not involved on the actual investigation, wouldn't it be wiser to wait for the true facts to come out instead of bantering about what " he said/she said, somebody told me, I heard through the grapevine " and other shallow gossip?
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#18 Dec 20, 2013
Joe wrote:
Pat Northey is against the idea of building a facility for the homeless. Northey has questions as to where the financing will come from beliving that Volusia County should not be responsible for regular costs with the idea that it should be an organized effort. Northey is also concerned about the funding having an effect on the judicial system. Northey admits that homework has to be done, and that all the answers are not there~! <<
Pat Northey expressed this opinion on the radio- it is a fact not a suspicion. Yes it would be better to leave any type speculation from the media alone. Those ideas when they get out of hand will lead to wide spread speculative opinions that interfere with the right to a fair and speedy trial- by making it extremely difficult to find a fair and impartial jury[It's unconstitutional] Money laundering tax fraud- real estate fraud ballot fraud & in kind contributions are not speculation it is the focus of a federal investigation as is the $10.5M Opinion is separated from the facts by evidence of where the money has not been going. Money that belongs to the taxpayer.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#19 Dec 20, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> "Strong suspicion" is really a firm basis for your post. If you're not involved on the actual investigation, wouldn't it be wiser to wait for the true facts to come out instead of bantering about what " he said/she said, somebody told me, I heard through the grapevine " and other shallow gossip?
You can use speculation as an example but not if your going to be a hypocrite. You used terms like other people= that's speculation. It took you this long to realize that when we speculate or guess about these types of issues were only treading on our constitution= don't tread on me] is very much an American expression that applies to constitutional rights. The Marc Bernier Program [Daytona Beach] is a link on the computer with a panel of discussions that includes Pat Northey's statements word for word under the link Pat Northey to verify that there is no speculation. Use the link find the statement or use speculation it's up to you but don't be a hypocrite with our constitutional rights.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#20 Dec 20, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text> Money laundering tax fraud- real estate fraud ballot fraud & in kind contributions are not speculation it is the focus of a federal investigation as is the $10.5M Opinion is separated from the facts by evidence of where the money has not been going. Money that belongs to the taxpayer.
Either you know or you don't. Come on, spit out the specifics with names, dates, and amounts or wheel yourself back to the day room with the other gossiping old maids
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#21 Dec 20, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> Either you know or you don't. Come on, spit out the specifics with names, dates, and amounts or wheel yourself back to the day room with the other gossiping old maids
It's almost funny how you have chosen a specific part of the comment because it was what you wanted to believe. You have intentionally disregarded the point that it's a violation of constitutional rights. The names are listed in previous comments as part of an investigation. At this point dates are insignificant. An investigation into money laundering has to involve proof that documents have been shredded dates would have to correspond with certain requests for approval by government & when those dates are not in direct order with other documents lack of evidence is just as capable of proving guilt because it's evidence that can be entered as reasonable doubt. The trial can continue with the determination that it's doubtful the money was used properly. Your right to know is NOT over and above the fact that this can only be determine in the trial. The Daytona Beach News Journal can allow for interviews [or mock interviews] with previously convicted felons [Which editor/chief Pat Rice<< A name] has done! Josh Wagner can be quoted for saying that he is innocent- or doing what is best for the county.. that's a right given by the First amendment. It doesn't include contradicting the right to fair and speedy trial based on the idea that it's what someone read in the newspaper or on the computer. The determination of guilt can not include various argumentative public opinions.

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