Beach Driving New Poll

Created by Joe on Jun 18, 2014

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Joe

Leesburg, FL

#1 Jun 18, 2014
On September 22, 2011 Erin Joynt appeared on N.B.C. News with her family and her lawyer John Phillips. The young mother of two was the victim of an OVERsized Daytona Beach patrol vehicle. Paralysis to the left side of her face was the aftershock of a crushed skull- fractured neck & broken vertebrae. With damage to her speaking skills no noticeable signs of serious damage to her brain. John Phillips will represent the Joynt family and will not release any speculative figures as some reports [DBNJ O.L.] have already done. The Joynts case will be returning as a civil lawsuit. The county who did battle for months over the issue appointed an unknown spokesman to appear on the news claiming: We' are doing the best we can......???
Dragonfly Hummingbird

Port Orange, FL

#2 Jun 19, 2014
More people drown in Daytona Beach from the rip currents than die getting hit by cars. Rules to not get run over are simple. Don't run in front of cars and don't lie in the sand, use a beach chair. Rules for not drowning are simpler. Don't go in.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#3 Jun 19, 2014
When there has to be a rule that no one can lay on the beach in a [designated area] then it no longer is a public beach. The case above will play into the sympathy of public opinion and even manipulate the point. That's YOUR beach. And YOUR state road. Under guidelines of Parks & Recreation the beach is STATE property which means it is not subject to state tax in the state of Florida. A ventured guess would be that of course you don't believe in the way the county conducts there rules but then the topic [ a personal posting] is not about who dies te most and how they do it!
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#4 Jun 19, 2014
Certain areas with interests to more protection = why not just ask if anyone wants driving on the beach or they don't. Jim Purdy is a shifty lawyer that can not be trusted- Purdy represents Volusia County [Carl Lentz- Donnie Moore & Jim McCroskey. The protection idea smaller vehicles designated areas- that was insurance fraud to show a decrease in accidents by manipulating the records. A civil case involving two or more people conducted in federal court during an on going federal investigation will entitle medical compensation which by the way involves proof of medical fraud against the county as a point with insurance records. The civil case has everything to do with changing the rules completely. It is not a city tax or county tax. It's federal. The case of Erin Joynt and the case of David Summers s not going to go away without being heard!
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#5 Jun 23, 2014
The decision of allowing for vehicles on the beach is not just a matter of development in the Westin Hotel. Someone has made a federal case against a serious problem. During bike events the point is that 6 people died and the fault is to the motorist NOT' the biker that visits Daytona Beach with more than enough clues that the purpose is to get Drunk- a message that say's keep motorists out- for the reason of corruption. The following year the DBNJ can report that only 4 people died during bike week.??? The government will allow for this to happen and pass it off as an improvement from last years numbers. Meanwhile the Westin parking lot is a problem- It should be on Jasmine- No it should on West A1a no paving expenses traffic control stop lights at $100.000 a pop. After a tax break that was given to whom exactly! A fire drill was the tax write off for the Desert Inn. No stop light. No parking lot- just another accident that can happen on the beach and get written off with insurance fraud.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#6 Jun 23, 2014
International Speedway Corporation will defend driving on the beach as a tradition, It's an idea of people holding on to community as a last resort effort. The tolls won't change! A parking lot alone will cost more money than a parking lot with an occupied business. and traffic control includes more that $100.000 a pop for traffic lights. The congestion of having a traffic near a parking lot with a stoplight will conflict with local traffic. The residential areas would need to include no parking signs or parking restrictions with expense to the tax payer. Add this up. The Westin is providing jobs- where will they park? The Westin is not going to pay for the traffic light- because the distance will take the Westin out of the tax zone. Progress is voided again. The residents accept their fate and defend what they have left which is less than they deserve. Records of spending would have to be examined proposals of new business are to keep future investments away.
Dragonfly Hummingbird

Port Orange, FL

#7 Jun 26, 2014
Another 2 casualties at the Volusia County beaches this week. One by driver one by sea. The World's Most Dangerous Beach is keeping it's title.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#8 Jun 26, 2014
Dragonfly Hummingbird wrote:
Another 2 casualties at the Volusia County beaches this week. One by driver one by sea. The World's Most Dangerous Beach is keeping it's title.
A title. Exactly right. It perpetuates into becoming fearful. It's a hit & run or an accident. That can be used once or twice a year the person that is being hit can be a person that wants a lawsuit the settlement can make money for the legal system and insurance companies can file separate claims. When that doesn't work... it's the sea turtles the sharks [reported in NSB- that may be in Daytona. Or a viral infection in the Halifax River that will eventually lead to beach. Cars will never be an issue the taxes collected are reported at 1.5 Million a year in toll expenses before being reduced. It's a message that they don't want anybody on the beach if they can make that happen.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#9 Jun 27, 2014
Dragonfly Hummingbird wrote:
Another 2 casualties at the Volusia County beaches this week. One by driver one by sea. The World's Most Dangerous Beach is keeping it's title.
A drunk driver that came off of Dunlawton to hit and kill someone who was walking on the beach. Bonded out on $12000 ... that's very wrong. Do you realize how unfair this will be for the county?? One of their toll booths was a victim! They collected revenue in court costs in case of the pregnant mom a trumped up case of victimized metal illness. Government money for mental evaluation- The case of the drunk driver will not be a big story. On some level it should be the right information that won't happen. The issue should be that beach ramps have to be eliminated completely for a legal and useful means of the property. The idea of conducting a poll on this issue was a mistake that could not be expected. Just as much as anyone else can vote 2 -3 or 4 times according to Ann Mc Fall it also means the vote on a computer doesn't count for much either/
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#10 Jun 27, 2014
Dragonfly Hummingbird wrote:
More people drown in Daytona Beach from the rip currents than die getting hit by cars. Rules to not get run over are simple. Don't run in front of cars and don't lie in the sand, use a beach chair. Rules for not drowning are simpler. Don't go in.
There is no disagreement about this point. Keep in mind you're going to be given [more] information about riptide casualties than you will driving accidents on the beach. The riptide casualties are not the responsibility of the county or the state. They are more easily written off as an accident and could possibly only be used as a deflection or accidents that occur on the beach.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#11 Jun 27, 2014
[Correction=typo-for] That only proves another point that should be decided in a federal court in civil case of Erin Joynt., Why swim at your own risk when Daytona Beach Capt. Richie Gardner was paid a reported $68.000 a year in annual fees Insurance costs have to be an issue in the case,
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#12 Jun 27, 2014
The toll booth issue is to keep pedestrian traffic off of beach with an excuse to collect toll revenues/ The write offs benefit the city and county council and their members. Bandstand- renovation the ice skating rink the pier and the ocean center created the downfall of the Hilton property The Hilton taxes became washed into the pier investment. Each part of the revenue tolls- taxes and tax breaks will protect that pier as a write off to any Main Street property!
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#13 Jun 27, 2014
Jurors are recommending $2.6 million in the case of Erin Joynt. Erin Joynt's attorney John Phillips had one quote for the press. The battle isn't over A clear indication that Mr. Phillips was not allowed to discuss any particulars of the court proceedings under federal law. The Daytona Beach News Journal spoke with several lawyers and representatives of Volusia County that covered most of the three page line article. The points mentioned are that he Joyn't Family has already received $135.000 Insurance companies will be covering those cost and in federal case [separate from the county] the court costs will be a liability of the taxpayer. Also according to the DBNJ government employees are immune from prosecution under Florida Statute.= a state constitution of rewritten laws approved by the legislature in 2012. Inadmissible even if those laws were legal [they are not] The accident occurred under a different of laws. Insurance issue remain in the battle this isn't over by a long shot!
joe

Leesburg, FL

#14 Jul 3, 2014
The County has claimed sovereign immunity [unpunishable by law]
joe

Leesburg, FL

#15 Jul 7, 2014
The rumor of a petition is being sent across the radio. WELE the Ormond Beach station that discusses the matter to avoid the matter, is blaming red sand as an answer to taking cars off of the beach. Red sand is the sign of beach erosion. One resident speaking out with concerns for the beach representing an amount of people who are not speaking out because they have given up... That's a tough act to follow.. Asking the government who never paid a personal property tax to invest in east A1a beachfront property for a parking lot. The petition itself is not concern with the disappearing shoreline. More tax dollars will be draw from an empty parking lot than a lot with occupied business. The petition by one individual is telling the public we know the government is -stealing the money there is no mistake bout that if we join together and protect with a petition it will improve the way they steal it... won't you help...? wtf!~!
joe

Leesburg, FL

#16 Jul 7, 2014
That would have to be someone involved with the Echo foundation or any of the other non existent organization of close friends that the city commission doesn't like. The Florida Department Of Transportation is represented by the subsidiary group of R. Sans Lassiter [one individual] the group company concerned with traffic safety laws red light cameras parking lots and infrastructure. Websites for Lassiter are viral and could be considered a computer risk. R. Sans [ sans definition=without[ represents the Main Street Committee Daytona Chamber of Commerce as an anonymous non existent figure for Daytona Beach. An address for Lassiter in Daytona is 123 Live Oak- the actual address is 137 Live Oak = The Christian Fellowship Church of Science.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#17 Jul 9, 2014
joe wrote:
The County has claimed sovereign immunity [unpunishable by law]
The sovereign immunity that the county claims to have is nothing more than agreement with an insurance company.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#18 Jul 9, 2014
In fact sovereign immunity in not taking responsibility for accidents on the beach blames not just the commission the Florida Department Of Transportation locks the beach areas under the unlawful act [due to liability] in the seizure of state properties. Find insurance fraud and those issues will be addressed.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#19 Jul 11, 2014
Without concerns from the Florida Department Of Transportation where each member of the group can not be verified as legitimate for the use of parks and recreation including the use of the beach as a municipal tax, the subject of driving on the beach is a stalemate. Tradition is not the reason for beach driving. Under parks and recreations as a municipal tax parking would be a legitimate issue of proper taxes. Each park within the county from Sugarmill to Sunsplash Birthplace Of Speed to Bicentennial draws from the municipal tax base. Anyone cooperating with the driving issue has abandoned hope or believes it I the right idea ... it isn't.
Joe

Leesburg, FL

#20 Jul 16, 2014
Hotel development interferes with the timeshare market as a private concern. Timeshares are useful through the advertising of special events. Each proposed investment is a counter action to deflect from profit sharing

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