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Sports budget deficit

Lebanon, OH

#22278 Oct 5, 2012
When they went back to estimate the SYB debt for non payment, where on the fee schedule did they look? They were not a non profit, and per the IRS, are still not one today. Were they estimating at the non profit rate, or at the for profit rate? And why did they get an even better rate than a non profit, and get sole use of the facilities for a discount, without having their 501 C 3 in place?
I am really disappointed in Kelly Kohls for this one. Keeping things moving along is important, but you don't have to vote yes to move along a Board Meeting. You can table the issue until the next meeting. Not having an agreement in place for SYB for one more week would not have had life or death consequences.
Down in the Boro

Piqua, OH

#22279 Oct 5, 2012
New subject wrote:
It's time for a new subject for all to enjoy. Who wants to chime in on the budget deficit facing our sports program that the board will be bringing up in the next few meetings?
Didn't steff plead it best to petrey at the last board meeting? declaring that now for the first time ever her child was proud to wear boro spirit wear to class on Friday, all because of SYB.
Remember that same old stuff during past levy season when Springboro teacher stood up in public board meeting, testifying she was ashamed to wear boro spirit wear, because voters would not pass a school levy for increased union wages and benefits?
blasphemy

Springboro, OH

#22280 Oct 5, 2012
Sports budget deficit wrote:
When they went back to estimate the SYB debt for non payment, where on the fee schedule did they look? They were not a non profit, and per the IRS, are still not one today. Were they estimating at the non profit rate, or at the for profit rate? And why did they get an even better rate than a non profit, and get sole use of the facilities for a discount, without having their 501 C 3 in place?
I am really disappointed in Kelly Kohls for this one. Keeping things moving along is important, but you don't have to vote yes to move along a Board Meeting. You can table the issue until the next meeting. Not having an agreement in place for SYB for one more week would not have had life or death consequences.
What??? You are disappointed in Kelly Kohls??? Is that allowed to be stated on this blog? That's blasphemy, isn't it? he he
junk food nation

Germantown, OH

#22281 Oct 5, 2012
Sports budget deficit wrote:
Where does all the revenue from the Panther Store go? I know they have to pay for stock to sell, but are the people working there volunteers? What do the Boosters have to say about that? The store is open year round and seems to have a fairly steady business. They take credit cards, and must have a bank account. Has anyone ever seen any records? That seems to be a profitable area for fundraising. If the school isn't getting any money from the Boosters for the Fan Store, maybe they should put it into the school in place of the Panther Express and stop selling fats and carbs to the kids and sell tee shirts and sweats instead. Or, have another group take it over. One that can manage it properly and show a profit.
pop and junk food - profit margin A
tee shirts / sweats - profit margin D

High junk food & pop profit margin is the primary reason why wrestling vending machines filled with garbage out of our schools has been such an arduous task.
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Piqua, OH

#22282 Oct 5, 2012
junk food nation wrote:
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pop and junk food - profit margin A
tee shirts / sweats - profit margin D
High junk food & pop profit margin is the primary reason why wrestling vending machines filled with garbage out of our schools has been such an arduous task.
Have vending machines filled with garbage been "wrestled" out of our schools? Don't think so.
Wouldn't that require the arduous task of prying open Malone's treasure chest of coins in the principal's fund?
THIS TOWN IS A JOKE

Trenton, OH

#22283 Oct 5, 2012
Most of you blast the deal that your BOE gave to SYB but in the same breath think that cutting pay to participate fees by the BOE was a great concession to the taxpayers. The hypocrisy that is typed on this blog is quite funny.

Why don't each of you present your bank statements to the BOE and the person with the most money can help pay our deficit. For those of you are afraid to show your bank statement ormour embarrased because you don't have much money in your account, maybe we can find someone on this blog to help you manage your money because some think they would be better at it than others.
Down in the Boro

Piqua, OH

#22284 Oct 5, 2012
THIS TOWN IS A JOKE wrote:
Most of you blast the deal that your BOE gave to SYB but in the same breath think that cutting pay to participate fees by the BOE was a great concession to the taxpayers. The hypocrisy that is typed on this blog is quite funny.
Why don't each of you present your bank statements to the BOE and the person with the most money can help pay our deficit. For those of you are afraid to show your bank statement ormour embarrased because you don't have much money in your account, maybe we can find someone on this blog to help you manage your money because some think they would be better at it than others.
Sounds like you think the system works best if everybody's household budget is spread out and you get to "reset our priorities" to meet your greedy self-interest agenda??
Don't think that's going to happen.
Guess the joke's on you for getting stuck in a joker town.
No embarrassment on us down in the boro.

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the jokes on ewe

Germantown, OH

#22285 Oct 5, 2012
THIS TOWN IS A JOKE wrote:
Why don't each of you present your bank statements to the BOE and the person with the most money can help pay our deficit.
Hey, Barack! Thanks for stopping by to make this unannounced 'Boro small town campaign stop. Now, get the fudge out!
Can Not Win

Cincinnati, OH

#22286 Oct 5, 2012
Tammy Grigsby, a Springboro resident who teaches at Middletown High School, is suing the Springboro Board of Education in U.S. District Court for alledgedly withdrawing a teaching position offered to her this summer “due to and in retaliation for” her political activity and affiliation with a pro-levy group.

Named in the federal civil rights action are the Springboro school board and individuals who were board members at the time of Grigsby’s application, including Kelly Kohls, Don Miller, David Petroni, James Rigano and Scott Anderson.

According to her lawsuit, filed Sept. 28, Grigsby applied for a teaching position this summer at Springboro High School. She went through two rounds of interviews and on June 12 “was told by the assistant principal that she had been selected and was being offered the position as a math teacher at Springboro High School,” according to her complaint.

However, a few days later, Grigsby reportedly was told by the assistant principal that “we have a problem.”

The lawsuit asserts that Gene Lolli, then Springboro superintendent, told Grigsby that he had conducted a third set of interviews at the direction of the school board,“particularly the former vice president (now acting president) Kelly Kohls, who represented that she spoke for the school board.”

The interviews were conducted, according to what Grigsby said she was told by Lolli,“to legitimize the withdrawal of the offer to Ms. Grigsby and conceal the fact that Ms. Grigsby was being denied the position for which she had been selected because of her First Amendment protected activity (i.e. her public comments and work with Neighbors for Springboro Schools.)”

Neighbors for Springboro Schools is a group that advocates for the passage of school levies and for school-related concerns in Springboro.

Board members Petroni and Rigano are two of the founders of Educate Springboro, and Kohls is a founding member of Educate Ohio. These groups draw attention to school funding and fiscal conservancy. Kohls also is president of the Warren County Tea Party.

Kohls said Friday this was the first she had heard about the lawsuit. When asked if Grigsby’s claims were true, Kohls said:“I can’t answer that. I never heard that claim.”

Kohls said board members were not presented with Grigsby nor her application this summer. Kohls said she did know that Grigsby was associated with the Neighbors for Springboro Schools group, since Grigsby had “attempted to conduct a forum for candidates,” in 2009.

Anderson, who has since resigned as president of the school board, also said he was unaware of the lawsuit when contacted Friday.

He said it would not have been protocol for the board to see Grigsby’s application, and he did not hear or witness a conversation about Grigsby while on the board.

“I leave it up to our administration to put forth good people, but legally we can say no to anybody,” Anderson said of the board.“Hopefully it’s for the right reasons and not for political reasons.”

Members of the Ohio School Boards Association said school boards are not supposed to be partisan, but political concerns do surface.

“All of the issues swirling around levies have political dimensions, not partisan dimensions,” said Damon Asbury, director of legislative services for the OSBA.

Rick Lewis, OSBA executive director, added that potential political differences should not play a role in whether a teacher is hired.

“You shouldn’t be required to check your freedom of speech and your political views at the door,” Lewis said.“They shouldn’t be conditions of employment.”

Neither Lolli nor Grigsby could be reached for comment.

On Tuesday, Grigsby’s case was referred to Magistrate Judge Karen L. Litkovitz.

Grigsby is seeking “compensatory damages, economic losses, punitive damages, declaratory and injunctive relief and reasonable attorney fees and costs in this matter.”
OMG yellow jourlism

Dayton, OH

#22287 Oct 6, 2012
another waste of taxpayers money - schools can and do "offer" positions and withdraw them - she knows that and this is another Yellow paper article from the bully's of the boro community. the position is only dependant on the BOE - who got the job - if its a black lady they won't even get to steps of courthouse- the only way that she has to have case heard is she has written proof - which seriously doubt.
Can Not Win wrote:
Tammy Grigsby, a Springboro resident who teaches at Middletown High School, is suing the Springboro Board of Education in U.S. District Court for alledgedly withdrawing a teaching position offered to her this summer “due to and in retaliation for” her political activity and affiliation with a pro-levy group.
Named in the federal civil rights action are the Springboro school board and individuals who were board members at the time of Grigsby’s application, including Kelly Kohls, Don Miller, David Petroni, James Rigano and Scott Anderson.
According to her lawsuit, filed Sept. 28, Grigsby applied for a teaching position this summer at Springboro High School. She went through two rounds of interviews and on June 12 “was told by the assistant principal that she had been selected and was being offered the position as a math teacher at Springboro High School,” according to her complaint.
However, a few days later, Grigsby reportedly was told by the assistant principal that “we have a problem.”
The lawsuit asserts that Gene Lolli, then Springboro superintendent, told Grigsby that he had conducted a third set of interviews at the direction of the school board,“particularly the former vice president (now acting president) Kelly Kohls, who represented that she spoke for the school board.”
The interviews were conducted, according to what Grigsby said she was told by Lolli,“to legitimize the withdrawal of the offer to Ms. Grigsby and conceal the fact that Ms. Grigsby was being denied the position for which she had been selected because of her First Amendment protected activity (i.e. her public comments and work with Neighbors for Springboro Schools.)”
Neighbors for Springboro Schools is a group that advocates for the passage of school levies and for school-related concerns in Springboro.
Board members Petroni and Rigano are two of the founders of Educate Springboro, and Kohls is a founding member of Educate Ohio. These groups draw attention to school funding and fiscal conservancy. Kohls also is president of the Warren County Tea Party.
Kohls said Friday this was the first she had heard about the lawsuit. When asked if Grigsby’s claims were true, Kohls said:“I can’t answer that. I never heard that claim.”
Kohls said board members were not presented with Grigsby nor her application this summer. Kohls said she did know that Grigsby was associated with the Neighbors for Springboro Schools group, since Grigsby had “attempted to conduct a forum for candidates,” in 2009.
Anderson, who has since resigned as president of the school board, also said he was unaware of the lawsuit when contacted Friday.
He said it would not have been protocol for the board to see Grigsby’s application, and he did not hear or witness a conversation about Grigsby while on the board.
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OMG yellow jourlism

Dayton, OH

#22288 Oct 6, 2012
read the "houche act (sp?) " for public employees which teachers are part. she doesn't even pass the 1st sentance - we get a copy every 4 years
idiot detector

Dayton, OH

#22289 Oct 6, 2012
Can Not Win wrote:
Tammy Grigsby, a Springboro resident who teaches at Middletown High School, is suing the Springboro Board of Education in U.S. District Court for alledgedly withdrawing a teaching position offered to her this summer “due to and in retaliation for” her political activity and affiliation with a pro-levy group.
Named in the federal civil rights action are the Springboro school board and individuals who were board members at the time of Grigsby’s application, including Kelly Kohls, Don Miller, David Petroni, James Rigano and Scott Anderson.
According to her lawsuit, filed Sept. 28, Grigsby applied for a teaching position this summer at Springboro High School. She went through two rounds of interviews and on June 12 “was told by the assistant principal that she had been selected and was being offered the position as a math teacher at Springboro High School,” according to her complaint.
However, a few days later, Grigsby reportedly was told by the assistant principal that “we have a problem.”
The lawsuit asserts that Gene Lolli, then Springboro superintendent, told Grigsby that he had conducted a third set of interviews at the direction of the school board,“particularly the former vice president (now acting president) Kelly Kohls, who represented that she spoke for the school board.”
The interviews were conducted, according to what Grigsby said she was told by Lolli,“to legitimize the withdrawal of the offer to Ms. Grigsby and conceal the fact that Ms. Grigsby was being denied the position for which she had been selected because of her First Amendment protected activity (i.e. her public comments and work with Neighbors for Springboro Schools.)”
Neighbors for Springboro Schools is a group that advocates for the passage of school levies and for school-related concerns in Springboro.
Board members Petroni and Rigano are two of the founders of Educate Springboro, and Kohls is a founding member of Educate Ohio. These groups draw attention to school funding and fiscal conservancy. Kohls also is president of the Warren County Tea Party.
Kohls said Friday this was the first she had heard about the lawsuit. When asked if Grigsby’s claims were true, Kohls said:“I can’t answer that. I never heard that claim.”
Kohls said board members were not presented with Grigsby nor her application this summer. Kohls said she did know that Grigsby was associated with the Neighbors for Springboro Schools group, since Grigsby had “attempted to conduct a forum for candidates,” in 2009.
Anderson, who has since resigned as president of the school board, also said he was unaware of the lawsuit when contacted Friday.
He said it would not have been protocol for the board to see Grigsby’s application, and he did not hear or witness a conversation about Grigsby while on the board.
“I leave it up to our administration to put forth good people, but legally we can say no to anybody,” Anderson said of the board.“Hopefully it’s for the right reasons and not for political reasons.”
Members of the Ohio School Boards Association said school boards are not supposed to be partisan, but political concerns do surface.
“All of the issues swirling around levies have political dimensions, not partisan dimensions,” said Damon Asbury, director of legislative services for the OSBA.
Rick Lewis, OSBA executive director, added that potential political differences should not play a role in whether a teacher is hired.
“You shouldn’t be required to check your freedom of speech and your political views at the door,” Lewis said.“They shouldn’t be conditions of employment.”
Grigsby is seeking “compensatory damages, economic losses, punitive damages, declaratory and injunctive relief and reasonable attorney fees and costs in this matter.”
Anderson..."...hoping it's not for political reasons"...that's rich coming from " MR.I Wantabe.."
Boro Bad Apple

Piqua, OH

#22290 Oct 6, 2012
We all remember NFSS babble gal, Tammy Grigsby, jumping up at the board meeting when the school superintendent resigned; trying to blame and shame our entire school district for causing her to lose her king of the babble bullies, David Baker.
We all remember that Tammy Grigsby's son led Malone's Youth Union community wide disrespectful protest against school district authority during March 2012; with the SEA Youth Union group threatening school board members with voting them out of office (once they became old enough to vote). We all remember that Tammy Grigsby among other of Baker's NFSS gals (including Lisa Babb and Tina Schrof) have received supplement contracts, which have been approved in public board meetings. So now, Tammy Grigsby seeks to "hurt our school children" by slapping on an expensive law suit against school district taxpayers, because she thinks she should be hired as boro bully teacher for "our children's future?
Sure glad our Springboro Schools didn't get stuck with Tammy Grigsby, who oviously is the bad apple that disires spilling her rot throughout the whole
barrel.

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SOS to BOE

Piqua, OH

#22291 Oct 6, 2012
Can Not Win wrote:
Tammy Grigsby, a Springboro resident who teaches at Middletown High School, is suing the Springboro Board of Education in U.S. District Court for alledgedly withdrawing a teaching position offered to her this summer “due to and in retaliation for” her political activity and affiliation with a pro-levy group.
Named in the federal civil rights action are the Springboro school board and individuals who were board members at the time of Grigsby’s application, including Kelly Kohls, Don Miller, David Petroni, James Rigano and Scott Anderson.
According to her lawsuit, filed Sept. 28, Grigsby applied for a teaching position this summer at Springboro High School. She went through two rounds of interviews and on June 12 “was told by the assistant principal that she had been selected and was being offered the position as a math teacher at Springboro High School,” according to her complaint.
However, a few days later, Grigsby reportedly was told by the assistant principal that “we have a problem.”
The lawsuit asserts that Gene Lolli, then Springboro superintendent, told Grigsby that he had conducted a third set of interviews at the direction of the school board,“particularly the former vice president (now acting president) Kelly Kohls, who represented that she spoke for the school board.”
The interviews were conducted, according to what Grigsby said she was told by Lolli,“to legitimize the withdrawal of the offer to Ms. Grigsby and conceal the fact that Ms. Grigsby was being denied the position for which she had been selected because of her First Amendment protected activity (i.e. her public comments and work with Neighbors for Springboro Schools.)”
Neighbors for Springboro Schools is a group that advocates for the passage of school levies and for school-related concerns in Springboro.
Board members Petroni and Rigano are two of the founders of Educate Springboro, and Kohls is a founding member of Educate Ohio. These groups draw attention to school funding and fiscal conservancy. Kohls also is president of the Warren County Tea Party.
Kohls said Friday this was the first she had heard about the lawsuit. When asked if Grigsby’s claims were true, Kohls said:“I can’t answer that. I never heard that claim.”
Kohls said board members were not presented with Grigsby nor her application this summer. Kohls said she did know that Grigsby was associated with the Neighbors for Springboro Schools group, since Grigsby had “attempted to conduct a forum for candidates,” in 2009.
Anderson, who has since resigned as president of the school board, also said he was unaware of the lawsuit when contacted Friday.
He said it would not have been protocol for the board to see Grigsby’s application, and he did not hear or witness a conversation about Grigsby while on the board.
“I leave it up to our administration to put forth good people, but legally we can say no to anybody,” Anderson said of the board.“Hopefully it’s for the right reasons and not for political reasons.”
Members of the Ohio School Boards Association said school boards are not supposed to be partisan, but political concerns do surface.
“All of the issues swirling around levies have political dimensions, not partisan dimensions,” said Damon Asbury, director of legislative services for the OSBA.
Rick Lewis, OSBA executive director, added that potential political differences should not play a role in whether a teacher is hired.
“You shouldn’t be required to check your freedom of speech and your political views at the door,” Lewis said.“They shouldn’t be conditions of employment.”
Neither Lolli nor Grigsby could be reached for comment.
On Tuesday, Grigsby’s case was referred to Magistrate Judge Karen L. Litkovitz.
Grigsby is seeking “compensatory damages, economic losses, punitive damages, declaratory and injunctive relief and reasonable attorney fees and costs in this matter.”
Please Stand firm in Saving Our Schools from hiring teachers like Tammy Grigsby.

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Court Jester

Piqua, OH

#22292 Oct 6, 2012
THIS TOWN IS A JOKE wrote:
Most of you blast the deal that your BOE gave to SYB but in the same breath think that cutting pay to participate fees by the BOE was a great concession to the taxpayers. The hypocrisy that is typed on this blog is quite funny.
Why don't each of you present your bank statements to the BOE and the person with the most money can help pay our deficit. For those of you are afraid to show your bank statement ormour embarrased because you don't have much money in your account, maybe we can find someone on this blog to help you manage your money because some think they would be better at it than others.
Shouldn't we just model our behavior the boro sports coach way
and just get "lawyered up" refusing access to our bank statements
like Holtrey, Benjamin, Wilhite and Pelfrey?

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thanks Kelly

Germantown, OH

#22293 Oct 6, 2012
SOS to BOE wrote:
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Please Stand firm in Saving Our Schools from hiring teachers like Tammy Grigsby.
Not only did Tammy Grigsby work with NFSS for their misguided pro levy efforts but she also put time in toward last fall's Babb for Boro campaign. Before that election a small coven including Grigsby & Babb organized to knock on doors and canvass the neighborhood with Babb door hangers.

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Dayton, OH

#22294 Oct 6, 2012
Kelly better start remembering those who have backed her all the while exposing themselves to public ridicule...she can be forgetful...I KNOW. Kelly, better call and thank those who have helped you.

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swee pea

Germantown, OH

#22295 Oct 6, 2012
an ally wrote:
Kelly better start remembering those who have backed her all the while exposing themselves to public ridicule...she can be forgetful...I KNOW. Kelly, better call and thank those who have helped you.
If Kelly Kohls cut herself from your frequent inbox list I'd be willing to bet it was because you stopped being optimistic / positive. c'mon...reply "yes", because you & I know this is the truth.
Boro Belief

Piqua, OH

#22296 Oct 6, 2012
an ally wrote:
Kelly better start remembering those who have backed her all the while exposing themselves to public ridicule...she can be forgetful...I KNOW. Kelly, better call and thank those who have helped you.
As for me and my household of voters, we believe that Kelly's record of public service to our schools and community speaks for itself. Thanks, Kelly, for standing firm on strong principles of the board's new philosophy of children first budgeting. And we believe the continuing personal and legal attacks on Kelly are coming from a hostile union activists group in their continuing efforts to discredit a Springboro school board representative who does not conform to OSBA expectations.

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Dayton, OH

#22297 Oct 6, 2012
swee pea wrote:
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If Kelly Kohls cut herself from your frequent inbox list I'd be willing to bet it was because you stopped being optimistic / positive. c'mon...reply "yes", because you & I know this is the truth.
you couldn't be more wrong...and BTW...stop drinkin the kool-aid, you brain cells might recover....good grief..what zombies...I supported your god. all I asked for was recognition of my support. if I don't get it, i'll be one less supporter, somethng Kohl has neeed before.

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