Susan

Parkersburg, WV

#169 Jan 2, 2011
Plugged in Eden Pure in and it pulled so much current that I couldn't run anything else on that circuit. Kept tripping breaker. Sent it back and my oil filled heaters are doing fine.
Jennifer

Newton, NC

#170 Jan 2, 2011
Susan wrote:
Plugged in Eden Pure in and it pulled so much current that I couldn't run anything else on that circuit. Kept tripping breaker. Sent it back and my oil filled heaters are doing fine.
yah!! Kept tripping breakers with ours too!! It never worked like it said it would and we sent it back and got a $20 space heater for the living room and it works 100x better! The space heater is 1500 watts but with it Ive yet to see lights flicker or trip a breaker!
Eddie T

Brevard, NC

#171 Jan 4, 2011
I clicked on the advertisement on page 1. "Infrared Heater $199 Only - 60% More Heater Free Shipping Best Quartz Infrared Space Heater
www.drheaterusa.com " for a laugh.

The quartz/infrared is neatly tucked away in a box as with EdenPure so the reality check reveals it to be yet another fan forced convection heater trying to make a buck on the public gullibility of believing that quartz/infrared hidden in a box somehow invokes magic.
JIMINGR

Kirkland, WA

#174 Jan 6, 2011
The first year our Eden Pure did a fairly decent job heating our living room. As far as saving on our heat bills, nonesense. We save about $4 a month. In December of 2010 we started using it again and it just not do the job. We were cold and would end up starting our central system and it was not even winter yet. The Eden Pure people provided me with shipping labels and I returned it under the warranty provisions for a reconditioned model. That arrived 2 days ago after taking almost 4 weeks to get. Plugged it in and it ran all of 3 minutes and shut down. Talked with the Eden Pure people and they recommended that I shut it down for an hour and it should reset. No way! It has not started up since the first time we tried it. Am sick and tired of trying to contact these people and they have not responded to 2 emails, the first being on December 2. This thing is a piece of junk.
Eddie T

Brevard, NC

#175 Jan 7, 2011
Rob wrote:
I bought an Edenpure heater Gen 4 and it works unblievable. I also have the regular 1500 watt heaters that you get anywhere or Walmart and they Do Not compare.Radiant heat is so good compared to the regular heaters. The Edenpure has an vaporizer that adds moisture to the house for great comfort without turning up the thermostat.
Question; what makes Rob think the EdenPure supplies radiant heat? The EdenPure supplies fan forced warm air.
Obbop

Springfield, MO

#177 Jan 7, 2011
ddoesdollars wrote:
I tend to disagree. We ahve several friends that own the Edenpure. It has literally cut heating bills in HALF!
Own stock in the company???
Obbop

Springfield, MO

#178 Jan 7, 2011
"FUSION? REALLY? Wow. I'm no physics geek, but fusion (excluding the culinary and music worlds) relates to what happens in a nuclear reactor, doesn't it?"

Nope. Fission; splitting apart atoms.

Fusion is akin to how the sun functions. Adding an electron to an existing atom.

It takes an A-bomb, a fission reaction, to make an H-bomb work.

Science is attempting to create a fusion reaction in the laboratory.

Extremely hard to do.

May have been achieved for a billionth or a millionth of a second but nothing long-term.

And, the Amish heater AND that other one are marketing scams akin to the "gas crunch" days when super-secret carburetors and magnets on gas lines were sold (all proven scams).

The "Amish" term is used because it fools many consumers into believing the product is trustworthy and must be good honest buy for the bucks.

The heating part of the unit is imported from overseas.

The cabinet holding the heating unit (and the visual display of fake flames) is imported and inserted into the frame in the USA.

As for "free" heater in many of the ads?

Well, free.... in a very roundabout manner.

You MUST pay for the wood frame holding the supposedly "free" heating element.

Get an electric heater capable of producing the same heat amount for $30 or $40 or even less on sale at many local retail stores or at many on-line sellers.

The Amish heater or others akin to it are marketing schemes/scams.

Positive comments or comments from supposed owners promoting the units are people either involved in the scams in some way OR are trouble-makers getting their kicks out of assisting folks in wasting their money.
geoandstevo

Louisville, KY

#179 Jan 8, 2011
Sorry about your experience. We bought one of these for the basement on 12/7/10. It work great twice. Then the heat quit coming out, but the fan still ran. We just sent ours back with the shipping tag they sent us.I think we need to get our money back. Thanks for valuable input.
Obbop

United States

#180 Jan 8, 2011
Darn.... need to proof-read better.

Cabinet holding the heating unit and the visual non-actual-flame display is made in the USA with the other aspects imported from overseas and installed ibto the USA-made cabinet.
Conservative

Springfield, OH

#181 Jan 8, 2011
At 1500 watts and plugged in to a standard outlet (120v) it'll pull 12.5 amps. Circuits for normal rooms usually have 15 amp breakers but are rated to trip at 90 percent or 13.5 amps.

It wouldn't have taken much to trip the breaker.
Conservative

Springfield, OH

#182 Jan 8, 2011
I posted this here some some ago.

This may help. I don't know how many watts your unit operates at but if you look at the nameplate it will tell either how many watts it operates at or how many amps. If it tells you watts, you're golden, if it tells you amps, simply multiply the amps listed by the voltage it's plugged into.

Example Only(amps will vary): STARDARD RECEPTICLE = 120 VOLTS X 5 AMPS = 600 WATTS - If it was 10 amps it would be 120 volts x 10 = 1200 watts. Get the idea?

If it says on the nameplate 1200 watts or whatever that's all you need.

Once you have determined the watts needed to operate your unit multiply the watts x the number of hours per day you have it on and again times the number of days in the month that you use it.

EXAMPLE (we'll use 1000 watts): 1000 watts = 1 KILOWATT HOUR
12 HOURS PER DAY X 1000 WATTS = 12000 WATTS OR 12 KILOWATTS PER DAY. IF YOU USE IT EVERY DAY OF THE BILLING PERIOD (USUALLY 30 DAYS) THAT CALCULATES TO 12 KILOWATT HOURS X 30 DAYS = 360 KILOWATT HOURS FOR THE MONTH.
Finally multiply 360 x 0.16 =$57.60
KWH'S TIMES COST PER KILOWATT HOUR = MONTHLY COST

Of course if the watts needed to operate were 5000 watts it would be 5 kilowatt hours x 12 hr. per day x 30 days in mo. x .16 =$288.00

That's just for the unit and nothing else. Anything else running would add to the bill. This may help.

You can use this to calculate approximately what any electrical device or equipment might cost you to operate monthly or by again times 12 for yearly.

Most of your monthly electric bills cost is in Electric Stoves, Dryers, Hot Water Tanks. Lights don't add squat really. It takes 10, 100 watt lights on for an hour to use 1 Kwh of electric. 60 watt bulbs, 16.
D Lancaster

Mabank, TX

#183 Jan 9, 2011
Mock wrote:
Yeah I'm freezing right now because this POS EdenPure heater keeps randomly cutting off.
Thanks, EdenPure, I might catch an pneumonia and DIE!
I DEFINITELY see what you're talking about big hoss. The scum have actually found their way to this website and are posting BS Marketing, claiming their awful products work.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves. I know you've got to have a job to survive in this economy, but to work for companies that blatantly LIE about their products? Get a real job.
These heaters ARE a ripoff. End of story!
Have you ever thought maybe your house isn't insulated enough. Maybe you have more cold air coming in than it can heat. My parents have one and love it heats their house great but their home is well insulated. MAKES A DIFFERENT Try getting the chill out of the room first with central heat or what ever.
Jason

Summerville, SC

#185 Jan 13, 2011
I just got a Edenpure and it heats my 1,000 sf house in a sc winter and has kept it around 65 to 70 degrees so im impressed. The omish heaters im not sure about.
Jason

Summerville, SC

#186 Jan 13, 2011
Oh and also I do have all interior walls insulated in my house which is new so I'm sure that helps. I so several vids about these but everyone I KNOW sware's by them. This is only my 2nd night using it hell it may break tomorrow but as for now I'm happy.
Listen

Broadview Heights, OH

#187 Jan 14, 2011
Here's what the Amish do with your heater dollars:

http://wins.failblog.org/2011/01/12/epic-win-...

Ya gotta see it.
Eddie T

Brevard, NC

#188 Jan 14, 2011
As an engineer I feel that electric heaters controlled with a proportional thermostat would be good. For proportional think how the unit on an electric range is controlled from a low wattage to red hot. Some of the ceramic heaters have this feature and even the fan runs slower for low settings.

The above examples are not truly proportional a proportional electronic thermostat would only supply a proportional amount of power to the heater on an as needed basis, that is max wattage until the desired temperature is reached then only as needed to maintain it rather than full on/off cycles.
warm mom

Carrollton, GA

#189 Jan 14, 2011
big hoss wrote:
The so-called "Amish" heater, or "Heat Surge" electric heater and the EdenPURE heater promoted by Paul Harvey, are over priced, overpromoted sucker bait items. You can either spend hundreds of dollars on these approximately 1500-watt (maximum setting) heaters or you can get a heater at Walmart, Tru-Value Hardware, Lowe's, or hundreds of other palces for MUCH LESS--as little as $25.00--that will put out the same amount of heat and heat the same amount of space. The ad for EdenPURE claims it will heat up to a 1000-square foot room. If you just fell off the turnip truck, you might believe that, but bear this in mind. A simple, ordinary, hand-held electrical hair dryer on the high setting will produce the same heat output, about 5000 BTUs as the EdenPURE or the "Amish" Heat Surge heaters. A sales representative for EdenPURE told me that their heat was a "different kind of heat," which is pure MALARKY. Heat is heat, and 5000 BTUs will NOT heat 1000 square feet of a typical dwelling under winter conditions; it simply will not produce that amount of heat. The advertisements for both these hokey heaters assume that you will turn down your thermostat for most of your house and move these units from room to room to stay warm and comfy. But you can do the same thing with a much cheaper heater! Forget about the Amish and forget about the EdenPURE. Tell Paul Harvey to stuff it! If you need an electric heater, spring for maybe $40 or $50 and buy a good little portable one from your local retail source. It will sure be easier to move from room to room that either of those overbuilt, cosmeticized contraptions that are being sold all over the place to gullible folks by sleazy marketing techniques like the ads with the chin-bearded patriarch lovingly polishing up the "solid wood mantel." (That wood is solid, but it is NOT oak or cherry as the ads would have you believe--it is poplar stained with oak or cherry stain). Forget about any confidence you might have placed in that octogenarian huckster, Paul Harvey, now that I have told you the "rest of the story." One more thing--it is highly probable that one or both of these scam outfits has people cruising forums like this one and posting big "personal endorsements." Do not be misled by such canned propaganda! It is purely defensive on their part--attempted defense of the indefensible! Shame on these pirates!!
I own one of the eden pure heaters i love love love it it has kept my house warm all winter so far have only had to by 100
gals of gas so far this year I set my heater in the hall and all my bedrooms say nice and warm you have lost your mind if you think these don't work this heater has has already saved me over $600.00 and the winter is not even over it's been below 32 for three weeks and i have yet to burn any gas woo hoo love my heater matter of fact going to by me another one for the back part of my house to replace those cheep wal-mart heaters eden pure heater is worth every penny I spent on it.

“Jody”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#190 Jan 14, 2011
warm mom wrote:
<quoted text> I own one of the eden pure heaters i love love love it it has kept my house warm all winter so far have only had to by 100
gals of gas so far this year I set my heater in the hall and all my bedrooms say nice and warm you have lost your mind if you think these don't work this heater has has already saved me over $600.00 and the winter is not even over it's been below 32 for three weeks and i have yet to burn any gas woo hoo love my heater matter of fact going to by me another one for the back part of my house to replace those cheep wal-mart heaters eden pure heater is worth every penny I spent on it.
For some reason, to me your post reeks of male lingo. Tell the truth now, you're not a mom.
KCJoe

Columbus, OH

#191 Jan 15, 2011
I have my doubts that all those in favor of the "edenpure" or any other knockoff variety of the Infrared Heaters that are currently saturating the market are ALL stock holders, sales personnel or family of the same!

There are many varieties of home owners, some with 1000 sq. ft. apartment like homes, some with mansions, and some with (for lack of a better word) dumps who are trying these units in attempts of saving a buck. If you watched the informercial with Bob Villa on TV then you certainly realized that ductwork central house heaters positively have their weaknesses and heating outside walls & wasteful expensive running time is among them. Leaks in ductwork also creates energy losses esp. if the ducks are in a non-heated zones like crawl space! This is where the advantage comes in for owners of the newer types of heaters.

I have tried several space heaters over my lifetime (I'm now in my 50's) and liked the ceramic heater with its thermostat settings for heating a cold bathroom for warm feeling post shower. And I've tried one of the knock off infrared heaters in my living room where the wife constantly feels cold at my energy savings wall thermostat setting of 68. The Infrared heater warms the room quietly, and efficiently to a cosy 75 by kicking on and off and the thermostat keeps the rest of the house at 68 just fine. I'm anxious to see how much this has offset my heat bill, but that remains a mystery for a few more days. I'll update either positivtly or negatively when it does arrive, but for now, I like the heater, it warms a room without the "dry feeling" that other electric heaters have (ceramic I.E.) done with continuous operation. I've never kicked a circuit breaker but I don't have a dozen items hooked up on it either. I do have a lamp on the same circuit and they work fine together.

So, right now, my recommendation is try the knock off Infared Heater, mine is an IHeater, sold by Carter Lumber Company for $199. It still has the decorative wood grain cabinet and operates exactly like the EdenPure. The opponents will still swear too much bucks and initially I woulda said the same, until I experienced two of them heating the entire 2000 square foot home of my inlaws and seeing their electric bill cut from over $200. to $69. last month. I had to try it and the only thing that will make me withdraw my positives is if mine doesn't follow the same!
Einstupid

Piqua, OH

#192 Jan 15, 2011
Eddie T wrote:
As an engineer I feel that electric heaters controlled with a proportional thermostat would be good. For proportional think how the unit on an electric range is controlled from a low wattage to red hot. Some of the ceramic heaters have this feature and even the fan runs slower for low settings.
The above examples are not truly proportional a proportional electronic thermostat would only supply a proportional amount of power to the heater on an as needed basis, that is max wattage until the desired temperature is reached then only as needed to maintain it rather than full on/off cycles.
I have recently had success in attaching solar panels to my Amish heaters & making them work.
Those damn boxes look sort of stupid sitting up there on the roof, though!

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