Could New York run on renewable energ...

Could New York run on renewable energy alone?

There are 3 comments on the Salon story from Apr 21, 2013, titled Could New York run on renewable energy alone?. In it, Salon reports that:

Three times now, Mark Jacobson has gone out on the same limb. In 2009 he and co-author Mark Delucchi published a cover story in Scientific American that showed how the entire world could get all of its energy - fuel as well as electricity - from wind, water and solar sources by 2030.

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Yucca Valley, CA

#1 Apr 21, 2013
" .....except that Jacobson, from Stanford University, and Delucchi, from the University of California, Davis, calculated just how many hydroelectric dams, wave-energy systems, wind turbines, solar power plants and rooftop photovoltaic installations the world would need to run itself completely on renewable energy."

Wave energy and hydroelectric are the only two generation sources that could be used as spinning and or baseload generation in their scenario. Wave energy and hydroelectric take some very specific requirements to achieve generation capacity. It would not be probable in states like Kansas or Nebraska. If their paper did not require some kind of massive grid power storage system(s) to be installed around the country, the ability to generate all the electricity required does not address when it is generated and when it is required for usage.
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#2 Apr 22, 2013

Arab, African American deserts can very well be the new glut for energy source. Consider that with a mere 35,000 square miles of barren desert, it can provide the entire planet with its energy requirements.
Presently such an adventure is being studied to do just that. Europe is pushing for a Desertec plan to embrace solar thermal collectors in North Africa and Southern Europe. Heated water to provide the energy to the dynamos to feed their nations. Goal at present is to achieve 15 to 20 percent of Europe’s electrical needs by mid century.
Logistical barriers, from the deserts to the cooler Northern regions, are being addressed by Franz Trieb, German engineer who is responsible for the initial studies on Desertec.
One strategy he proposes is to gather solar and wind as well as thermal energies into a large storage tanks of molten salt.
[ Giant Capacitors!] to be tapped into as demand requires 24/7.
Control on distribution is regulated by a central command system.
Representatives of the Moroccan and Egyptian government have publicly expressed support for Desertec.
Solar Thermal Collectors [Solar Parabolic] are more efficient than solar panels. Infrastructures required to logistically serve Northern Europe, would require subsides to make them competitive to oil and coal. Considering that governments around the world contribute $312 billion in subsides to fossil fuel industries and only $57 billion to renewable, is an area of corporatist political biases. One that calls for a solution. To suggest or imply that we need to prioritize our wealth investments into a depreciating, limited, polluting cost systems is beyond reason. With complete non polluting renewable system at the ready for deployment. Increase in productivity of employment and an added benefit in reducing negative health issues through out the world and all species.
Deployment of the magnitude will take years as we transfer our energy base and the required technologies upgrades to our present infrastructure to increase efficiency in use of all energies and communicational information.
Joseph Romm, a physicist at the Center For American Progress, emphasizes the vast out lay and importance of the infrastructure. Solar Thermal Plants of the magnitude of 500 megawatts are presently under construction in Quarzazate, Morocco. As these plants come to maturity additional plants will go under constructions in various barren desert regions of the world. Infrastructure to address the distributions will be of a paramount quest for our present undertaking.
USA has its barren land and deserts not only for New York but for the nation.
The GREEN Is Bursting Out!!
Fred C Dobbs

Roseville, CA

#3 Apr 22, 2013
I don't know about that but there is a guy here on this Woodland Topix board named cwi530 that's running entirely on hot air and bullshit.

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