Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,163

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#184412 Mar 24, 2013
endocannabanoid system wrote:
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there ya go again, eqauting homosexuals with something else that has NOTHING to do with it, just because it is looked down upon(heavy obnoxious drinkers)
get a clue bigot.
You get the clue. Your rationale is not valid, else it would be up to this comparison. Alcoholism or homosexuality, it doesn't matter, both are wrong. Both exist in the world. My rationale holds up to either premise. If it is wrong, it is wrong. Period.
RedLine

La Puente, CA

#184413 Mar 24, 2013
More RNC, GOP

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#184414 Mar 24, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Neither is alcoholism a crime, but we can all agree that it is wrong.
Alcoholism is a disease. It impairs one's ability to function in society, hold a job, contribute to a marriage/family, and survive. It kills by destroying livers and contributing to automobile accidents.

Homosexuality is not a disease. In and of itself it destroys nothing. The negative reactions to homosexuality cause most of the harm that comes from homosexuality.
RedLine

La Puente, CA

#184415 Mar 24, 2013
Tho old pokies are sure upset,, I mean the RNC, GOP, Republican "tucks Pads".
endocannabanoid system

Anderson, CA

#184416 Mar 24, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
You get the clue. Your rationale is not valid, else it would be up to this comparison. Alcoholism or homosexuality, it doesn't matter, both are wrong. Both exist in the world. My rationale holds up to either premise. If it is wrong, it is wrong. Period.
you bigots havn't ever succeeded in presenting a rational arguement as to WHY you think homosexuality is wrong...

the rest of us DO NOT think of it as WRONG....but simply as a preference, and a civil rights issue.

you claimimg some sort of moral high ground, with your bigotry is laughable!!!
endocannabanoid system

Anderson, CA

#184417 Mar 24, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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Alcoholism is a disease. It impairs one's ability to function in society, hold a job, contribute to a marriage/family, and survive. It kills by destroying livers and contributing to automobile accidents.
Homosexuality is not a disease. In and of itself it destroys nothing. The negative reactions to homosexuality cause most of the harm that comes from homosexuality.
they cant think of anything else to do but equate gays with anything else they think of as wrong.....

in the absense of an actual arguement.
endocannabanoid system

Anderson, CA

#184418 Mar 24, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Oh, the cute widdle way you have of claiming that you represent all the other people is so precocious. Except that you do not speak for the majority of people, you merely speak for yourself. And claim the majority is behind you.
the majority of people ARE behind gay marriage being accepted.

58% of them, according to the ABC/washington post poll that came out last week.

up from 23% in 1996.

showing clearly that you are on the wRONg side of this issue, historically,.
endocannabanoid system

Anderson, CA

#184419 Mar 24, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Cherry picking, are we?
"man and women were put on this earth with complimentary sex organs"..........is that your proof?" Ummm.....yes. Anything that disputes this is utter nonsense. "kinda specualting there arnt we??" Umm....no.
"who really knows what is "normal"?? "Normal" is a subjective word. Most of the time, it is used in place of "usually".
""homosexuals are not normal, this has been proven by science...'
from there you inject your own beliefs, instead of citing some hard research." Science has shown us that if it were not for man and woman being designed for one another, we would not be here, at all. Does this, also, sound like mere speculation?
"that looked more like a short cut to thinking." No, it has been exhaustively studied through the centuries and stood up to every test, until now. Merely throw in some legalese and enough wanna-be lawyer types, and add a few libertines and we arrive at our current point.
so let me get this straight so everyone can see how silly you are!!

your arguement for why homosexuality is wrong, is that men have dicks and and women have vagina's???

can you elaborate??

or does it have something to do with your personal beliefes instead of an arguement based on reason and science.....
endocannabanoid system

Anderson, CA

#184420 Mar 24, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Cherry picking, are we?
"man and women were put on this earth with complimentary sex organs"..........is that your proof?" Ummm.....yes. Anything that disputes this is utter nonsense. "kinda specualting there arnt we??" Umm....no.
"who really knows what is "normal"?? "Normal" is a subjective word. Most of the time, it is used in place of "usually".
""homosexuals are not normal, this has been proven by science...'
from there you inject your own beliefs, instead of citing some hard research." Science has shown us that if it were not for man and woman being designed for one another, we would not be here, at all. Does this, also, sound like mere speculation?
"that looked more like a short cut to thinking." No, it has been exhaustively studied through the centuries and stood up to every test, until now. Merely throw in some legalese and enough wanna-be lawyer types, and add a few libertines and we arrive at our current point.
what exactly does evolutionary design have to do with someones sexual preference??
..... our race has been expanding rapidly during the industrial age......why would a small percentage of the population being gay, matter for the over all survival of our race.

BTW: we have what is called "frozen sperm"

and frozen eggs...

so really,in throery, we wouldnt actually need marriage between a man and a women to survive as a race...

you are way out in right feild...
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184421 Mar 24, 2013
endocannabanoid system wrote:
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except that the rights of the minorities cannot be decided by the majority.......
that is what this case is all ABOUT!!!
look at the bigoted steps NC has taken with that 'well screw ya with 'states rights" arguement.........
rights like marraige, should be universal through out our nation.
Actually we do that all the time, we decided that the minority of blacks could be integrated into our schools, against the wishes of the majority for example.

We are not a nation of mob rule, but a nation of law

I donít know how long you have been in this country, but you should study a little about the United States before posting
Honey Boo Boo

Los Angeles, CA

#184422 Mar 24, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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You get the clue. Your rationale is not valid, else it would be up to this comparison. Alcoholism or homosexuality, it doesn't matter, both are wrong. Both exist in the world. My rationale holds up to either premise. If it is wrong, it is wrong. Period.
Mama says you are one of them homo-sexuals that everyone talks about.
She says you are evil.
Are you an evil homo-sexual, Mister Randy??

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#184423 Mar 24, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Normal is a subjective word. However, homosexuality is not normal. This is explained through science, because man and woman were put on this earth with complementary sex organs meant to procreate the species. This is beyond discussion. By claiming normality in their relationships homosexuals, and attempting to use the government to legally bless their unions, they hope to indoctrinate society to accept it as so. In this process they are affecting one of the freedoms most parents desire to have for their children. That is to have them educated with the understanding of homosexuality that they consider to be self evident. Granted that people have abused this basic tenet of nature in many ways, including homosexuality, this does not alter what should be seen by any rational mind as the fact that homosexuality is not normal. This is not to say that you cannot be gay, you can. But do not ask us, or expect us, to recognize it as valid, and equal to heterosexuality, because it is not. Using the government to force this view upon us is actually setting your movement back.
Many, many scientists--people who are much smarter than you or I--I have determined after years of study and thorough observation that homosexuality is a normal orientation along the continuum of sexual orientation.

Who, exactly, are YOU to refute their findings?

Do you have an advanced degree in medicine, psychology, pediatrics, sociology, biology, or any other physical/mental health sciences?

You, like Kimare, are just some guy with an OPINION.

Why is it that you will accept all other aspects of medicine (I assume you go to a doctor on occassion), but are unwilling to accept their conclusions that homosexuality is normal?

How many times have you heard about a homosexual falling ill simply because he/she is homosexual?

I'm not talking about AIDS or any other STD that impacts BOTH heterosexuals and homosexuals.

I'm talking about a person who cannot function in society due to their being attracted to a member of the same gender?

Granted, there are countries and communities where being homosexual is difficult because the community has MORAL, not scientific, objections homosexuality.

You need to get it through your head that homosexuality has been here since the beginning of mankind and will be here long after you or I are gone. To pretend that it is something that can be cured or that it will go away simply because YOU disagree with it is childish. It's a form of magical thinking.

The sooner you come to peace with this FACT, the happier you will be.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#184424 Mar 24, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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Neither is alcoholism a crime, but we can all agree that it is wrong.
Alcoholism, unlike homosexuality, impacts a person's ability to function in society.

Homosexuals hold jobs, have families, go on vacations, go to church, and live happy and productive lives.

By its very definition, an alcoholic is someone who experiences consequences as a result of overindulgence. These may be medical, legal, social (family problems, job loss, etc.), psychological. An alcoholic cannot function due to their use.

You can find "alcohol abuse" and "alcohol dependence" in the "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual" (DSM), which lists psychiatric disorders. You can also find it in the "International Classification of Diseases" (ICD), which lists medical conditions.

You will not find homosexuality listed in either of these internationally recognized listings of disorders and diseases.
endocannabanoid system

Anderson, CA

#184425 Mar 24, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Actually we do that all the time, we decided that the minority of blacks could be integrated into our schools, against the wishes of the majority for example.
We are not a nation of mob rule, but a nation of law
I donít know how long you have been in this country, but you should study a little about the United States before posting
Big D

you know well who am

brown vs board of eduction is the decision that allowed intergration.

it wasnt voted on.

what IM SAYING, is that this vote on gay marriage is unconstitutional, and will be struck down by a judge....

BECAUSE in america, we dont VOTE on the rights of the majority.

got it this time??
endocannabanoid system

Anderson, CA

#184426 Mar 24, 2013
the minority, I mean
Less Problems

La Puente, CA

#184427 Mar 24, 2013
More reasons to give them a quick trial and then hang them horse thieves.

Make them buy the rope too.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#184428 Mar 24, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
Brian. Children raised by a married mother and father have better outcomes.
We agree, marriage between mothers and fathers is good because it protects, shelters and provide for children.

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Xavier Breath wrote:
That DOES NOT mean that all other combinations fail 100%.
But less than traditional marriage; same sex marriage harms children by creating a new norm of gender segregation marriage where our ideal of man/woman marriage doesn't.

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Xavier Breath wrote:
There is no rational reason to deny the benefits of marriage to children same sex parents... unless you think punishing their children is a moral thing to do.
The difference between 100% and the unknown failure rate of same sex marriage is the rational reason to maintain the male/female ideal of perfectly integrated and diverse opposite sex marriage.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#184429 Mar 25, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>We agree, marriage between mothers and fathers is good because it protects, shelters and provide for children.
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<quoted text>But less than traditional marriage; same sex marriage harms children by creating a new norm of gender segregation marriage where our ideal of man/woman marriage doesn't.
.
<quoted text>The difference between 100% and the unknown failure rate of same sex marriage is the rational reason to maintain the male/female ideal of perfectly integrated and diverse opposite sex marriage.
When the people arguing in favor of Proposition 8 had their days in court, they had the opportunity to bring experts indicating that homosexual relationships would have a negative impact on the family. Their experts COULD NOT prove this to Judge Walker's satisfaction.

When the 3 person appellate court heard their arguments, they also did not find in favor of the supporters of Proposition 8.

So, not even the best experts you guys could muster up were able to convince 4 federally appointed judges that homosexual relationships would have a negative impact on the family.

What makes you think that you could do better than them? What makes you believe you know more about the law? What makes you think you know more about same-sex relationships than them?
endocannabanoid system

Anderson, CA

#184430 Mar 25, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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When the people arguing in favor of Proposition 8 had their days in court, they had the opportunity to bring experts indicating that homosexual relationships would have a negative impact on the family. Their experts COULD NOT prove this to Judge Walker's satisfaction.
When the 3 person appellate court heard their arguments, they also did not find in favor of the supporters of Proposition 8.
So, not even the best experts you guys could muster up were able to convince 4 federally appointed judges that homosexual relationships would have a negative impact on the family.
What makes you think that you could do better than them? What makes you believe you know more about the law? What makes you think you know more about same-sex relationships than them?
amazing huh?? so many ding bats, so little time.
endocannabanoid system

Anderson, CA

#184431 Mar 25, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>We agree, marriage between mothers and fathers is good because it protects, shelters and provide for children.
.
<quoted text>But less than traditional marriage; same sex marriage harms children by creating a new norm of gender segregation marriage where our ideal of man/woman marriage doesn't.
.
<quoted text>The difference between 100% and the unknown failure rate of same sex marriage is the rational reason to maintain the male/female ideal of perfectly integrated and diverse opposite sex marriage.
'perfectly intergrated"

really??

last time i checked, the divorce rate among straights was WAY higher than that for same sex couples.

and somehow I doubt you are for
"diversity" in marraige.

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