Family of drowned boy sues country club

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Surrounded by photographs of their dead son, the parents of Connor Freed, the 5-year-old Davidsonville boy who drowned in a Crofton pool last month, announced Thursday a $20 million wrongful death lawsuit ...
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anonymous

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Jul 21, 2006
 
i understand what this family is going through but what they fail to realize is that they arent the only ones affected. the lifeguard at this facility is going to be tramitized for life. i feel as though the person who brought him to the pool is equally at fault. lifeguards are there to HELP watch everyone. the five year shouldnt have went to the bathroom by himself. there are more than one person at fault and the family needs to recognize that. sorry to say but the little boy didnt die at the pool, the lifeguard did what she/he was trained to do and accidents do happen.
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Jul 22, 2006
 
actually the little boy did die at the pool...he was braindead as soon as they pulled him out of the water..they just announced it an hour after b/c they were trying everything possible to bring him back. i feel as though it is a lifeguards duty to look out for the children/adults swimming in that pool. that is their job, that is what they are there for, and that is what their paid for. They aren't even the one's who noticed that he drowned. He didnt just instantly drown. I'm sure he splashed around, yelled, or at least called for help. If there were "four" lifeguards on duty someone should have realized he wasnt safe before a little girl already noticed he was dead...
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i understand what this family is going through but what they fail to realize is that they arent the only ones affected. the lifeguard at this facility is going to be tramitized for life. i feel as though the person who brought him to the pool is equally at fault. lifeguards are there to HELP watch everyone. the five year shouldnt have went to the bathroom by himself. there are more than one person at fault and the family needs to recognize that. sorry to say but the little boy didnt die at the pool, the lifeguard did what she/he was trained to do and accidents do happen.
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Jul 24, 2006
 
First of all, if you read the original stories that the general manager of Crofton Country Club told (read the newspapers) 1. there were four lifeguards on duty and they were all on post 2. the lifeguard pulled him out of the pool quickly 3. we used all necassary devices and techniques to save the childs life 4. all lifeguards responded appropriately and quickly. The REAL truth... there were 40 to 50 kids in the pool with ONE lifeguard on duty, the other three lifeguards were not even around the pool deck and not watching the pool. The general manager was nowhere to be found and is required to be on the grounds. 2. The lifeguard in the chair, after noticing the boy floating in the pool (probably for 4 or 5 minutes) began to blow the whistle at him, thinking he was playing a game and continued to sit and not respond in her chair. 3. After a little girl and two members finally pulled the boy out of the pool, the lifeguard in the chair STILL did not respond and pool members had to go get the other lifeguards that were not at their posts and also call the general manager and explain to them that they better respond quickly because there was a boy on the deck that had drowned. 4. Finally after responding, the lifeguards that came to the boy to provide first aid, began to incorrectly perform CPR as documented on the 911 tapes. 5. Furthermore, the lifesaving apparatus which the general manager said he used, never was used by the GM or any of the lifeguards.
Yes, people are responsible for their children but if you allow your child to go to a pool which is protected by LIFEguards you can reasonably expect that the personel of the pool can provide maybe one of the following, and the child would not have died. 1. Correct lifeguard supervision, atleast 3 lifeguards on duty. 2. Constant supervision of the pool. 3. Quick response to ANY emergency situations. 4. Knowledge of CPR techniques and lifesaving procedures. 5. Knowledge of how to use difibulator on premise, which is simple to use. 6. Overall emergency techniques and procedures to be followed in case of situations like this.
So, yes, your comments may be correct if ONE of these things was done. But in totality, the non performance of all the aforementioned problems caused the death of the little boy. And, if you have a child that you bring to a guarded beach, pool, playground, etc, and the club provides a false sense of security, then why have lifeguards at all? The parents would be better off knowing that the lifeguards would provide no help in times of emergency and therefore would not let their children go to clubs such as this at all.
If you read the latest newspapers, the parents did not blame the lifeguard, they blamed the lack of training provided by the pool and the Country Club.
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i understand what this family is going through but what they fail to realize is that they arent the only ones affected. the lifeguard at this facility is going to be tramitized for life. i feel as though the person who brought him to the pool is equally at fault. lifeguards are there to HELP watch everyone. the five year shouldnt have went to the bathroom by himself. there are more than one person at fault and the family needs to recognize that. sorry to say but the little boy didnt die at the pool, the lifeguard did what she/he was trained to do and accidents do happen.
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Jul 26, 2006
 
WHAT?! That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. That's like saying "Oh, sorry about your son that was shot, but think about how the person who shot him feels? Now he has to go to jail!" Obviously the lifeguards did NOT know what to do, or he would still be here today. If you watch the news and read the latest articles, everything that they did was done the wrong way. The family said in every recent article that they do NOT blame the lifeguards, they blame the lack of training. They obivously weren't trained for something like this; and this incident proves it.
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i understand what this family is going through but what they fail to realize is that they arent the only ones affected. the lifeguard at this facility is going to be tramitized for life. i feel as though the person who brought him to the pool is equally at fault. lifeguards are there to HELP watch everyone. the five year shouldnt have went to the bathroom by himself. there are more than one person at fault and the family needs to recognize that. sorry to say but the little boy didnt die at the pool, the lifeguard did what she/he was trained to do and accidents do happen.
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Jul 26, 2006
 
anonymous wrote:
i understand what this family is going through but what they fail to realize is that they arent the only ones affected. the lifeguard at this facility is going to be tramitized for life. i feel as though the person who brought him to the pool is equally at fault. lifeguards are there to HELP watch everyone. the five year shouldnt have went to the bathroom by himself. there are more than one person at fault and the family needs to recognize that. sorry to say but the little boy didnt die at the pool, the lifeguard did what she/he was trained to do and accidents do happen.
Connor actually was dead on scene. The media made a mistake.
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Jul 28, 2006
 
The pools lack of training is 100% at fault for the boy's death. No they didn't push him in(as far as i know), No they didn't tell him to jump in. BUT if they were trained like a life guard is suppose to than the 5yr old would still be here today. I do not blame the family at all for sueing the country club. It will not bring there loved one back, but it could possibly save another one's life.
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Jul 29, 2006
 
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The pools lack of training is 100% at fault for the boy's death. No they didn't push him in(as far as i know), No they didn't tell him to jump in. BUT if they were trained like a life guard is suppose to than the 5yr old would still be here today. I do not blame the family at all for sueing the country club. It will not bring there loved one back, but it could possibly save another one's life.
What about the guy who brought the kid and went to his car, leaving the boy alone? Why would he not accept at least part of the blame? If he had not left that boy alone then he would be alive today. How is that different than the lifeguards?
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Aug 1, 2006
 
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What about the guy who brought the kid and went to his car, leaving the boy alone? Why would he not accept at least part of the blame? If he had not left that boy alone then he would be alive today. How is that different than the lifeguards?
bad info......the guy was on the pool deck @ the time and helped pull the boy out
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Aug 3, 2006
 
I have had lifeguard training from that particular company and it was thorough and good. I have had the chance to see many pool companies in action and believe me, this is one of the best. I am very sad that this horrific accident happened under their supervision. Having been a lifeguard and having supervised many others, I now know that many lifeguards are not as worried about the safety of the public as they should be and, quite frankly, can be very lazy and careless at times. Please remember every time you go to a pool that you are putting your well being (and that of your family) in the hands of a TEENAGER. They do not always make the best decisions. There is only so much training that can be done. I do not blame the pool company at all, even though I no longer work for them.
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Aug 4, 2006
 
anom wrote:
<quoted text>bad info......the guy was on the pool deck @ the time and helped pull the boy out
Pulled the kid out yes...but he left the boy unattended in the bathroom after removing the boy's floaty vest...the boy heard the whistle signaling the end of the adult swim and off he ran into the pool. Where was the guy then?
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Aug 4, 2006
 
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I have had lifeguard training from that particular company and it was thorough and good. I have had the chance to see many pool companies in action and believe me, this is one of the best. I am very sad that this horrific accident happened under their supervision. Having been a lifeguard and having supervised many others, I now know that many lifeguards are not as worried about the safety of the public as they should be and, quite frankly, can be very lazy and careless at times. Please remember every time you go to a pool that you are putting your well being (and that of your family) in the hands of a TEENAGER. They do not always make the best decisions. There is only so much training that can be done. I do not blame the pool company at all, even though I no longer work for them.
So right...the man who brought the boy was not a teenager. He made the first fatal mistake. But if people assume he is suffering now...so are the teenagers.
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Pulled the kid out yes...but he left the boy unattended in the bathroom after removing the boy's floaty vest...the boy heard the whistle signaling the end of the adult swim and off he ran into the pool. Where was the guy then?
ARE YOU BLAMING THIS ON THE CHILD? First of all, the boy DID NOT just run and jump into the pool. There's been many witnesses who say the boy was extremely careful all day, he was the kind of child who was VERY cautious with everything he did and more than once during the day went up to the man to ask him to tighten his vest. He wouldn't even get into the shallow end without his vest. Yes, the man who brought him to the pool was definitely at fault for letting the kid go to the bathroom by himself, but an accident like this could've happened to ANYONE. And LIFEguards are supposed to be there to know what they're doing to help bring the child back. All he needed was a good couple of breaths and CORRECTLY done CPR and he would've been brought back. Even if the boy HAD run and jumped into the pool -- where was the lifeguard to tell him to stop running? A lifeguard, of all people, should notice children running around the pool. That's their JOB, that's what they get payed for. How many people let children go to the bathroom by themselves? Alot. Are you a parent? How would you feel if this happened to you? Just think about that. Because of a lifeguards lack of training; and/or not knowing what to do, they have to live without watching their little boy grow up, and live without him for the rest of their lives. There is no other word for this but tragic. And the sad thing was, it should've been prevented. There was many different opportunitys for this tradegy to be prevented, and none of them were taken into action before it was too late.
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Aug 6, 2006
 
True Connor probably shouldn't have gone to the bathroom himself, or should've been told to go back to his guardian before getting back in the pool, but lots of children younger than Connor go to the bathroom by themselves. Their friend is not at fault for taking him, but I guarantee you he blames himself. The lifeguard and pool is most definitely at fault. There should have been more lifeguards actually at their post. Even if the lifeguards did have good training, there should have been a supervisor to notice they were being lazy and reprimand them. Hopefully this will keep them from being lazy in the future. As for the lifeguard freezing up and doing nothing, that's just wrong. You should not be a lifeguard if you are not capable of reacting to save a life. This pool needs to reevaluate their lifeguards and let go of the ones that are not up to the task. As should all pools.
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Aug 6, 2006
 
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I have had lifeguard training from that particular company and it was thorough and good. I have had the chance to see many pool companies in action and believe me, this is one of the best. I am very sad that this horrific accident happened under their supervision. Having been a lifeguard and having supervised many others, I now know that many lifeguards are not as worried about the safety of the public as they should be and, quite frankly, can be very lazy and careless at times. Please remember every time you go to a pool that you are putting your well being (and that of your family) in the hands of a TEENAGER. They do not always make the best decisions. There is only so much training that can be done. I do not blame the pool company at all, even though I no longer work for them.
I have also had plenty of lifeguard training and if this situation happened at our pool, not only would all the lifeguards have been fired on duty, but also the pool operator. There were many opportunities for the lifeguards to save the child (as lifeguards know, the simplest one would've been to blow the whistle and tell the boy to move to the 3 feet, something which is done 100's of times a day) But, obviously, the staff of this pool was poorly trained and now are suffering because they did not react when they were supposed to. It seems to me that this pool is poorly run and that probably starts with a pool operator (Where was the pool operator when this all happened?)
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Aug 6, 2006
 
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I have had lifeguard training from that particular company and it was thorough and good. I have had the chance to see many pool companies in action and believe me, this is one of the best. I am very sad that this horrific accident happened under their supervision. Having been a lifeguard and having supervised many others, I now know that many lifeguards are not as worried about the safety of the public as they should be and, quite frankly, can be very lazy and careless at times. Please remember every time you go to a pool that you are putting your well being (and that of your family) in the hands of a TEENAGER. They do not always make the best decisions. There is only so much training that can be done. I do not blame the pool company at all, even though I no longer work for them.
I have also been a lifeguard for many years and if this happened at our pool (It would never have happened because of the many missed opportunities) The whole staff that was on duty, including the operator, would be responsible and would have been fired. Obviously, the lifeguards at that pool were not trained well and did not know how to respond to ANY situations, let alone a drowning. And by the way, many kids come to the public pool every day without parents or guardians and we watch them as lifeguards because it's our responsibility to make sure that no one drowns or gets hurt.
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Aug 7, 2006
 
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ARE YOU BLAMING THIS ON THE CHILD? First of all, the boy DID NOT just run and jump into the pool. There's been many witnesses who say the boy was extremely careful all day, he was the kind of child who was VERY cautious with everything he did and more than once during the day went up to the man to ask him to tighten his vest. He wouldn't even get into the shallow end without his vest. Yes, the man who brought him to the pool was definitely at fault for letting the kid go to the bathroom by himself, but an accident like this could've happened to ANYONE. And LIFEguards are supposed to be there to know what they're doing to help bring the child back. All he needed was a good couple of breaths and CORRECTLY done CPR and he would've been brought back. Even if the boy HAD run and jumped into the pool -- where was the lifeguard to tell him to stop running? A lifeguard, of all people, should notice children running around the pool. That's their JOB, that's what they get payed for. How many people let children go to the bathroom by themselves? Alot. Are you a parent? How would you feel if this happened to you? Just think about that. Because of a lifeguards lack of training; and/or not knowing what to do, they have to live without watching their little boy grow up, and live without him for the rest of their lives. There is no other word for this but tragic. And the sad thing was, it should've been prevented. There was many different opportunitys for this tradegy to be prevented, and none of them were taken into action before it was too late.
What your missing is that the boy was five and spent all day in a floating device...he became used to having it...he jumped into the pool because he had been doing it all day...the guardian should not allow a boy of that age or one who lacks swimming ability to go in the deep end...EVER! It is not the boy's fault (and I never said ti was)...but it is the guardian's fault...people become complacent when they use floatation devices...and the pool is at fault for allowing the original rule to be waved...this pool had a rule that NO child requiring a floatation device could be in the deep end...the devices were banned from the pool. Two years ago they changed that rule because parents complained. All of this lead to the drowning. As for NO running rules...they exist and the guards call kids on it all the time...but when that whistle blows, the kids run into the pool, they are either sitting on the side of the pool waiting or on the chairs on the side of the pool waiting. This boy was in the bathroom...but he obviously came out of the bathroom...where was the guardian (at his car in the parking lot!) If he had been there...would it not have been his inclination to tell this child NOT to run...yes I am a parent...my children are never out of my sight at the pool...no five year old should go unattended to a bathroom - do you send your five year old into the bathroom at a mall or store? It is unsafe, plain and simple for lots of reasons. And the guards noticing that the child was in the deep end...this kid had a vest on all day, he was not a regular member of the pool, os the guards did not know him...without the vest, my guess is he looked very different, so how are they to notice he is the boy who couldn't swim? That said, he may very well not have struggled...if he sunk in the deep end but had been prepared to float, as he had all day in his vest, then he likely swallowed water immediately...no struggling...all the people around the pool, including the middle school kids in the water, never saw the boy struggle - so how could the lifeguard? Yes freezing at the point that they were called to action is a critical mistake, so they are not blameless...but lets put the blame where it belongs...on everyone involved.
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What your missing is that the boy was five and spent all day in a floating device...he became used to having it...he jumped into the pool because he had been doing it all day...the guardian should not allow a boy of that age or one who lacks swimming ability to go in the deep end...EVER! It is not the boy's fault (and I never said ti was)...but it is the guardian's fault...people become complacent when they use floatation devices...and the pool is at fault for allowing the original rule to be waved...this pool had a rule that NO child requiring a floatation device could be in the deep end...the devices were banned from the pool. Two years ago they changed that rule because parents complained. All of this lead to the drowning. As for NO running rules...they exist and the guards call kids on it all the time...but when that whistle blows, the kids run into the pool, they are either sitting on the side of the pool waiting or on the chairs on the side of the pool waiting. This boy was in the bathroom...but he obviously came out of the bathroom...where was the guardian (at his car in the parking lot!) If he had been there...would it not have been his inclination to tell this child NOT to run...yes I am a parent...my children are never out of my sight at the pool...no five year old should go unattended to a bathroom - do you send your five year old into the bathroom at a mall or store? It is unsafe, plain and simple for lots of reasons. And the guards noticing that the child was in the deep end...this kid had a vest on all day, he was not a regular member of the pool, os the guards did not know him...without the vest, my guess is he looked very different, so how are they to notice he is the boy who couldn't swim? That said, he may very well not have struggled...if he sunk in the deep end but had been prepared to float, as he had all day in his vest, then he likely swallowed water immediately...no struggling...all the people around the pool, including the middle school kids in the water, never saw the boy struggle - so how could the lifeguard? Yes freezing at the point that they were called to action is a critical mistake, so they are not blameless...but lets put the blame where it belongs...on everyone involved.
It's not the people at the pool, or the kids at the pool having fun, it's the person trained to watch the pool, whether the person has a floaty on or doesn't have a floaty on. That person is called the LIFEguard (and it sounds to me that the general manager didn't take his job seriously so that's probably why the lifeguards didn't either)
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Aug 7, 2006
 
The parents should of not let him go to the pool with someone that couldn't handle the responsibility of watching a 5 year old boy. Even if he was only out of sight for 20 seconds thats all it takes for someone of any age to drown. You should never leave children unattended because accidents happen especially a child who can't swim. The parents say they don't put any blame on the person who was supposed to be watching their child but I think its just easier to attack the lifeguards. I feel bad for the guards, being a lifeguard my self. I chose to do what I do because I like to help people and keep them safe regardless of training and I'm sure the guards there did not intend for this to happen. We all hope something like this will never happen at our pool. Its a horrible thing but accidents happen all the time. at the pool or anywhere else. Even if the guard blew the whistle at the boy for running there is the same chance of survival for a 5 year old who can't swim by himself in the pool. Bottom line a 5 year old who can't swim shouldn't have been left alone at a crowded pool.
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Aug 8, 2006
 
The fact of the matter here is that the lifeguards wouldn't HAVE to live with that guilt, if they would've done their job correctly in the first place. I put the blame 50% on the man who brought him to the pool and 50% on the lifeguards. Because this accident could've happened with ANYONE... it's a very normal thing for parents to let their child go the pool, or anywhere, with friends/family. Yes, accidents DO happen. But when you bring your child to a PUBLIC pool -- you expect for the lifeguards to know what they're doing in the case of an emergency. And obviously, they didn't.
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Aug 9, 2006
 
dr renntiger wrote:
Sue the parents for not taking care of there kid.
thats clever....hey do you have rifles....maybe we can head over to waco and take on the govt.

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