Mom: Deployment leaves no one to care...

Mom: Deployment leaves no one to care for kids

There are 24 comments on the The York Daily Record story from Feb 28, 2009, titled Mom: Deployment leaves no one to care for kids. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

Lisa Pagan is shown with her husband, Travis, right, and her children Elizabeth, 4, and Eric, 3, at their home in Davidson, N.C., Friday, Feb.

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David

Kissimmee, FL

#1 Feb 28, 2009
The wonderful Army could always give her a desk job where she could keep the kids. Fayetteville has lots of Army offices.
THE wonderful Army

Valrico, FL

#2 Feb 28, 2009
Yea, and YOUR husband and/or wife is killed in Iraq/Afghanistan because he/she took someones place on the front line while you sit in an office in NC. Sign on the line, do the time. What don't you folks understand about that.
wondering

Haddonfield, NJ

#3 Feb 28, 2009
was the army paying for her schooling?
Angie

Reading, PA

#4 Feb 28, 2009
Signing up for the military is a choice. Getting married is a choice. Having a baby is a choice. If you can't make the 3 work, then DON'T DO IT!
still drunk

El Paso, TX

#5 Feb 28, 2009
I guess the idiot father can't take care of his kids while she's serving her country.
James

Irving, TX

#6 Feb 28, 2009
There are many married couple's, with children, who are both overseas right now. Her husband needs to find a way to owe up to his parenting responsibility, much like the 1 parent homes that exist now because one of the parents died while wearing the uniform.
Do the right thing

Salinas, CA

#7 Feb 28, 2009
To the parents of "Mexican Terrorists" once you find out your child is involved in Terrorism, please inform the local authorities. You could be saving your child's life or the life of someone else. it is your responsibility to report them.
military family

Montgomery, AL

#8 Feb 28, 2009
What is the big deal, she reports to Benning, with her kids and is placed in family housing. Then she puts her kids in the CDC (child development center) on post and goes to work. She was active duty before she knows the drill. Just because you are called up on IRR doesn't automatically mean they ship you out. They are making a mountain out of a mole hill with this in hopes that the "dumb" civilians where they live will feel badly for them. Suck it up and report...WITH YOUR KIDS. Hell the new housing at Benning is nice!
still confused

New Cumberland, PA

#9 Feb 28, 2009
I read this story carefully and I still don't get it.

The article states both people (husband and wife)left in 2005 when their enlistment was up.

Sooooo, does this mean your enlistment never really ends?

Can someone fill in the holes?
spotter

Suplee, PA

#10 Feb 28, 2009
still confused wrote:
I read this story carefully and I still don't get it.
The article states both people (husband and wife)left in 2005 when their enlistment was up.
Sooooo, does this mean your enlistment never really ends?
Can someone fill in the holes?
Most enlistments are not up when you leave active duty. Enlistment carries a (typically) 4 year period of Active Duty, AND 4 additional years of IRR (Individual Ready Reserve), AFTER you leave active duty. You are on a list for callup. Seldom is anyone called up. Since 2004, these lists ARE used much more than previously, based on shortages in certain career fields.

Everyone who signs up is repeatedly made aware of IRR responsibility following their term of service.

- spotter (retired)
Sing Hey for the Bath

Santa Cruz, CA

#11 Feb 28, 2009
Thank you for explaining the details, spotter. And in a easy to understand way :)

A friend of a friend here in Santa Cruz just completed his police training and has been called up again to do another tour of duty. He is going, of course, but does wish to stay home and be a police officer (he is in his late forties, by the way)

I was wondering why he was called up again but now I understand.

“Avoid Taxes, Don't Work !”

Since: Jul 08

San Jose, CA

#12 Feb 28, 2009
Bring back the draft. More wars coming. Start by drafting all the illegals in our prisons. They already know how to steal, kill and street fight. Only give them real weapons after they jump out of airplanes into battle. Come bak alive and maybe we will give you a pardon and citizenship.
rachel

Maple Grove, MN

#13 Feb 28, 2009
Angie wrote:
Signing up for the military is a choice. Getting married is a choice. Having a baby is a choice. If you can't make the 3 work, then DON'T DO IT!
She served her four years and has been honorably discharged. It has been three years since she was discharged! No one should have to put their life on hold for eight years because they were patriotic and signed up to do their duty. No normal person one is going to sign up for the military anymore.
GO ARMY

Mechanicsburg, PA

#14 Feb 28, 2009
She was discharged in 2005. The military has been calling back IRR people since late 2003/early 2004. At time of enlistment yeh it was not normal. But on discharge it was a thing of normality.

When you leave the military they tell you on debrief YOU MAY GET CALLED BACK FOR IRR. They don't hide it. You are told many times. Employers work with military families. I bet hubby never asked for a different area or an office job.
Joe

United States

#15 Feb 28, 2009
Well.....can't blame Bush for this one. Didn't Obama promise to put an end to this war? Why are they calling up already discharged soldiers?

Send ole Hillary to talk to our enemies and bring all the troops home.

“Depraved Indifference”

Since: Dec 08

Ronin

#17 Feb 28, 2009
Where are all the "jodies"? Let jody open a daycare center...

I'll let somebody else explain who jody is...
Joe Pentagon

Valrico, FL

#18 Feb 28, 2009
Joe wrote:
Well.....can't blame Bush for this one. Didn't Obama promise to put an end to this war? Why are they calling up already discharged soldiers?
Send ole Hillary to talk to our enemies and bring all the troops home.
She WAS NOT DISCHARGED, dumb a$$, but on IRR duty.
How many times must this be explained to you? I can tell you have a superb military background.
Caroline

Maple Grove, MN

#19 Feb 28, 2009
GO ARMY wrote:
She was discharged in 2005. The military has been calling back IRR people since late 2003/early 2004. At time of enlistment yeh it was not normal. But on discharge it was a thing of normality.
When you leave the military they tell you on debrief YOU MAY GET CALLED BACK FOR IRR. They don't hide it. You are told many times. Employers work with military families. I bet hubby never asked for a different area or an office job.
What good is it to tell someone "you may get called back for IRR" when you are leaving. The paper is signed it makes no difference how you feel about it! This should be emphasized to the person BEFORE THEY SIGN UP!

About the dad, his job is a salesman, he is probably full commission. They don't need a paper pusher they need a salesman.
not anymore

New Cumberland, PA

#20 Feb 28, 2009
rachel wrote:
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She served her four years and has been honorably discharged. It has been three years since she was discharged! No one should have to put their life on hold for eight years because they were patriotic and signed up to do their duty. No normal person one is going to sign up for the military anymore.
Ummm, I have to disagree with your statement. If you don't want to commit to the 4yr active duty and the 4yr IRR that follows, then don't sign up.

This is just the mortgage crisis with a different subject....yeah, I signed the papers, yeah, I knew what I was doing.........but now things have changed and I'd kinda like to get out of it..........

Is anyone responsible for anything anymore??

Apparently getting something in writing doesn't amount to anything more then a verbal agreement.

What's next??
military family

Montgomery, AL

#21 Feb 28, 2009
When you sign the papers at MEPS they do tell you that you have an IRR term following your dishcharge and you might get called back. Also read the article....she got called back in 07, less than 2 years after she got out.

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