Despite budget cuts, Cornelius won't ...

Despite budget cuts, Cornelius won't allow the library to close

There are 11 comments on the Huntersville Herald story from May 22, 2010, titled Despite budget cuts, Cornelius won't allow the library to close. In it, Huntersville Herald reports that:

CORNELIUS The county library system did not get the money it needed to keep community libraries open, but Cornelius Mayor Jeff Tarte said Wednesday that closing the town's library is not an option the town board will accept.

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george barnett

United States

#1 May 25, 2010
If the ruling clique in Cornelius is anything like Charlotte;i can guess what happened.During good times they spent every last damn dime with no thought for the proverbial rainy day.Money was spent on fluff instead of necessities.Now that times are tough,they will:#1.Lay off 10 clerks instead of one administrator,#2.Lay off 4 teachers instead of one district supervisor,#3.Turn off the traffic lights so that they can buy high tech decorator trash can.Priorities!----Even Charlotte isn't yet "World Class" in pissin' away taxpayor's money.A dead broke San Francisco is gonna spend over 40 million dollars to put "suicide nets" on the Golden Gate Bridge.If they are that short of crazies in San Fran.;Charlotte could ship 'em all they need for half that.
WhatTha

Morganton, NC

#2 May 31, 2010
Two things are obvious here. First, you know nothing about this topic at all - which makes you ignorant. Second, you haven't even read the article you are commenting about - which makes you stupid. Libraries are funded by the County - not the Town - so how Cornelius spent it's money in the past has nothing to do with it. If you knew what you were talking about, you would also know Cornelius is not hurting for money, but is simply considering subsidizing the County funding.
Southern_Proud

Cleveland, OH

#3 Jun 1, 2010
george barnett wrote:
If the ruling clique in Cornelius is anything like Charlotte;i can guess what happened.During good times they spent every last damn dime with no thought for the proverbial rainy day.Money was spent on fluff instead of necessities.Now that times are tough,they will:#1.Lay off 10 clerks instead of one administrator,#2.Lay off 4 teachers instead of one district supervisor,#3.Turn off the traffic lights so that they can buy high tech decorator trash can.Priorities!----Even Charlotte isn't yet "World Class" in pissin' away taxpayor's money.A dead broke San Francisco is gonna spend over 40 million dollars to put "suicide nets" on the Golden Gate Bridge.If they are that short of crazies in San Fran.;Charlotte could ship 'em all they need for half that.
You know, I went to the public Mecklenburg County Budget meeting last week. Their expenditures are hardly "pissing away" money and they are not in a financial crisis because they "pissed away" money. They have to service debt that the taxpayers readily agreed to incur to build schools, parks, libraries, and other public works. They have to spend money for schools. They provide services to Veterans and the disabled. They have programs to reintegrate convicts into the mainstream populace and make them productive citizens. How is any of this "pissing away" money? This is a few things the county spends money on.

Why the shortfall then? The sales tax collections are $40mm less than just two years ago. The number of building permits issued is less than the number issued in 1995, but the county population is 20 - 25% higher. And all those new people demand the services that the county provides.

You bitch about taxes and expenditures. When was the last time you personally built a section of road? Bought a book for the library? Launched a communication satellite? When you do one of these things on you own, you can complain about governmental expenditures.
WhatTha

Morganton, NC

#4 Jun 1, 2010
Southern_Proud wrote:
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You know, I went to the public Mecklenburg County Budget meeting last week. Their expenditures are hardly "pissing away" money and they are not in a financial crisis because they "pissed away" money. They have to service debt that the taxpayers readily agreed to incur to build schools, parks, libraries, and other public works. They have to spend money for schools. They provide services to Veterans and the disabled. They have programs to reintegrate convicts into the mainstream populace and make them productive citizens. How is any of this "pissing away" money? This is a few things the county spends money on.
Why the shortfall then? The sales tax collections are $40mm less than just two years ago. The number of building permits issued is less than the number issued in 1995, but the county population is 20 - 25% higher. And all those new people demand the services that the county provides.
You bitch about taxes and expenditures. When was the last time you personally built a section of road? Bought a book for the library? Launched a communication satellite? When you do one of these things on you own, you can complain about governmental expenditures.
Well said, brother.
george barnett

United States

#5 Jun 1, 2010
Southern_Proud wrote:
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You know, I went to the public Mecklenburg County Budget meeting last week. Their expenditures are hardly "pissing away" money and they are not in a financial crisis because they "pissed away" money. They have to service debt that the taxpayers readily agreed to incur to build schools, parks, libraries, and other public works. They have to spend money for schools. They provide services to Veterans and the disabled. They have programs to reintegrate convicts into the mainstream populace and make them productive citizens. How is any of this "pissing away" money? This is a few things the county spends money on.
Why the shortfall then? The sales tax collections are $40mm less than just two years ago. The number of building permits issued is less than the number issued in 1995, but the county population is 20 - 25% higher. And all those new people demand the services that the county provides.
You bitch about taxes and expenditures. When was the last time you personally built a section of road? Bought a book for the library? Launched a communication satellite? When you do one of these things on you own, you can complain about governmental expenditures.
So hard times are here.I would prefer that Charlotte and the county cut back on their spending and live within their current means.I prefer that my money,which i earned ,go to support my family.I have bought all the government(arena,arts,mass transit,public housing)that i need for one life time.There are still plans afoot for "affordable" public housing.This is to be scattered around the county which makes it worse than the old PROJECTS.If i wanted to be around lazy,dysfunctional,theiving,vi olent Democrats;i would have stayed downtown.
The_Watcher

Cleveland, OH

#6 Jun 2, 2010
george barnett wrote:
<quoted text>So hard times are here.I would prefer that Charlotte and the county cut back on their spending and live within their current means.I prefer that my money,which i earned ,go to support my family.I have bought all the government(arena,arts,mass transit,public housing)that i need for one life time.There are still plans afoot for "affordable" public housing.This is to be scattered around the county which makes it worse than the old PROJECTS.If i wanted to be around lazy,dysfunctional,theiving,vi olent Democrats;i would have stayed downtown.
In case you didn't understand what I wrote, the county HAS cut back on expenditures to the tune of $81mm for 2010 and 2011. That means that your children will be stuck in classrooms of over 40 and, as a result, their education will suffer. If they need to use the library, be prepared to go uptown or out East. It means that you may not receive prompt or any service from county health organizations. The county has no plans to install affordable housing. They don't have the money to do it.

Charlotte city has managed to avoid the shortfall because their revenue stream is different and they may have projects afoot. I cannot speak for them. However, both the city and the county provide essential services that require funding. There is waste, there always is. However, you live in this community and you enjoy its benefits and services (roads, schools, fire, police, sanitation, etc. etc, etc). Why are you so unwilling to pay your share to keep up those services. Without the taxes you pay, they would not be available and you would truly be on your own to educate your children, protect your property from fire and theft, to remove your wastes, etc. Is that what you want?
The_Watcher

Cleveland, OH

#7 Jun 2, 2010
Oops. I meant to make that last post under my Southern_Proud moniker.
george barnett

Livingston, TX

#8 Jun 2, 2010
The_Watcher wrote:
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In case you didn't understand what I wrote, the county HAS cut back on expenditures to the tune of $81mm for 2010 and 2011. That means that your children will be stuck in classrooms of over 40 and, as a result, their education will suffer. If they need to use the library, be prepared to go uptown or out East. It means that you may not receive prompt or any service from county health organizations. The county has no plans to install affordable housing. They don't have the money to do it.
Charlotte city has managed to avoid the shortfall because their revenue stream is different and they may have projects afoot. I cannot speak for them. However, both the city and the county provide essential services that require funding. There is waste, there always is. However, you live in this community and you enjoy its benefits and services (roads, schools, fire, police, sanitation, etc. etc, etc). Why are you so unwilling to pay your share to keep up those services. Without the taxes you pay, they would not be available and you would truly be on your own to educate your children, protect your property from fire and theft, to remove your wastes, etc. Is that what you want?
I have 2 grandchildren that live within the Charlotte city limits.Due to the behavior of the children of inner city baby mamas;the ability to recieve a good education in public schools is very limited.Since i am paying 2 private school tuitions out of my middle class income;i don't give a shyte if the public school classrooms have 50 students each.----P.S. They theoretically could cut sports and spend THAT money on actual education.
WhatTha

Morganton, NC

#9 Jun 2, 2010
What I don't get is the waste at CMS and how that effects our teachers. Think about this, all traffic fines, in fact all fines from the court system, go to the schools. We have the NC EDUCATION LOTTERY. We have millions pumped in to the school system from regular budgets. However, they create their own police department within CMS (CMS PD) even though every school is already covered by another police department.

Yet, they want to lay off teachers. Why do we need another police department, with their own fancy cars, when each school has an officer already in them from CMPD. It makes no sense - but 40 kids per class does?

It is so frustrating when I watch my family - all teachers but me - sweat it out.
The_Watcher

Cleveland, OH

#10 Jun 3, 2010
george barnett wrote:
<quoted text>I have 2 grandchildren that live within the Charlotte city limits.Due to the behavior of the children of inner city baby mamas;the ability to recieve a good education in public schools is very limited.Since i am paying 2 private school tuitions out of my middle class income;i don't give a shyte if the public school classrooms have 50 students each.----P.S. They theoretically could cut sports and spend THAT money on actual education.
You should consider yourself fortunate to be able to pay for your grands' education.

You don't give a "shyte" about 50 kids in a classroom. Therefore you must not give a "shyte" about the future of Charlotte's business and economy. Those 50 kids, who will be the workers and leaders of tomorrow, are being short changed. However, you don't give a "shyte". You have yours, right?

I have no one on CMS. I'm PROUD to pay my taxes to support the schools. One day, I might need one of those kids as a nurse or doctor or aid giver. I might need a good mechanic. Etc. So, I'm buying my future and that of my community with my taxes. But, you've got yours, right? That's all that matters. Right?
george barnett

United States

#11 Jun 3, 2010
The_Watcher wrote:
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You should consider yourself fortunate to be able to pay for your grands' education.
You don't give a "shyte" about 50 kids in a classroom. Therefore you must not give a "shyte" about the future of Charlotte's business and economy. Those 50 kids, who will be the workers and leaders of tomorrow, are being short changed. However, you don't give a "shyte". You have yours, right?
I have no one on CMS. I'm PROUD to pay my taxes to support the schools. One day, I might need one of those kids as a nurse or doctor or aid giver. I might need a good mechanic. Etc. So, I'm buying my future and that of my community with my taxes. But, you've got yours, right? That's all that matters. Right?
I am not wealthy.I am driving a 15 year old truck.I want a new truck but my grandchildren need a quality education that they can't get in Charlotte schools.They are my priority.Other parents and grandparents prioritize their spending differently.NOT MY PROBLEM.The only 2 children that are important to me are are my grand kids.Charlotte has enough taxes to provide a quality education to all K-12 students.Too much money is spent on administration,too much money is spent on sports------and too mmuch money is spent trying to educate those who absolutely,positively can't be trained to shyte in a pot.

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