Aptos site could be new home for affo...

Aptos site could be new home for affordable housing

There are 95 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Nov 18, 2008, titled Aptos site could be new home for affordable housing. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

County leaders are pressing forward with plans to make room for more affordable housing.

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Been there

Watsonville, CA

#25 Nov 18, 2008
Take a lesson from the Live Oak area, low income - high density only brings in trouble. Don't destroy another unique area.

Santa Cruz, CA

#26 Nov 18, 2008
Crimp wrote:
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I 'noticed' your name and no longer took you seriously in any way.

Definition: Any of several tropical sea birds of the genus Sula, resembling and related to the gannets.

Boobies = plural of booby.

Booobies = extra "o"

What are you thinking of?
StupidsAreAtItAg ain

United States

#27 Nov 18, 2008
Why did they let the Par3 property go? That would have been the best place to put in this sort of housing.

Daly City, CA

#28 Nov 18, 2008
Booobies wrote:
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Definition: Any of several tropical sea birds of the genus Sula, resembling and related to the gannets.
Boobies = plural of booby.
Booobies = extra "o"
What are you thinking of?
A 12 year old.
seacliff drive

Watsonville, CA

#29 Nov 18, 2008
wildman wrote:
Watsonville and Live Oak should not be allowed to have all the gangs. It's about time they begin to share the wealth, and it is consistent with the Obama plan.
Although a sad attempt at humor, this might be one of the stupidest things you ever wasted your time writing, and that is saying A LOT! What, no sensless reference to how people around here cherish diversity? Are even you getting tired of hearing that base and childish mantra?
We already have gangs, grafitti, break-ins and the like here in Aptos. Don't you guys read the paper?

Santa Cruz, CA

#30 Nov 18, 2008
<= Is this name better?
Bob M

San Mateo, CA

#31 Nov 18, 2008
The whole process of mandated "Affordable Housing" bothers me! Why? Because anytime the government has pushed housing and construction outside of supply sided free market capitalism, it smacks of socialism and ends up screwing the taxpayer! Affordable housing funds and mandates began with the CRA and which has led to the subsequent fiasco involving Fannie Mae Freddie Mac because Democrats C. Dodd, C. Schumer and B. Frank pushed Freddie and Fannie to make millions of sub-prime loans to folks who were not qualified to obtain standard loans. Is this same philosophy of forcing below market assessed home values (afffordable housing) which tend to be of a higher density than normally permitted for the area going to negatively affect traffic (daily car trips per resident per day whether to work, errands or pleasure), crime, quality of life, and/or environmental including sewage and water needs? What is the affordable housing cost per unit verses the assessed value of the pre-existing homes? It's not even mentioned! It has been repeatedly demonstrated that whenever the government is involved in forcing housing builds in any specific area, it has usually resulted in a negative impact to the community!

Sacramento, CA

#32 Nov 18, 2008
Booobies wrote:
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Definition: Any of several tropical sea birds of the genus Sula, resembling and related to the gannets.
Boobies = plural of booby.
Booobies = extra "o"
What are you thinking of?
I think Crimp was implying (.)(.)

Pleasant Hill, CA

#33 Nov 18, 2008
Pirie has once again betrayed all of Aptos and stabbed it in the back...why can't we build this in HER backyard? say goodbye to Aptos as a civilized place to live...thanks for screwing us again, Ellen
Steve Hartman


#34 Nov 18, 2008
People! How short are your memories... One of the main reasons the U.S. is in the economic mess it is in is because of affordable housing. Can you say Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

Please! Go back six weeks and start reading up on the economic crisis. This has got to be one of the most bone-headed move the Sups have pulled in a long, long time.

On the other hand, like IBD said: Fannie and Freddie were created by democrats, regulated by democrats, mostly run by democrats and protected by democrats. In short, democrats are responsible for this mess - the likes of Schumer, Chris Dodd, barney Frank, et al. at the national level.

Hmmm....wonder what party is responsible in Santa Cruz County for this next upcoming disaster? Looks like another local tax hike when the roof caves in.

Wexford, PA

#35 Nov 18, 2008
Hey Seacliff idiot! I read the article. Here is the line: Two acres on Aptos Rancho Road -- known as the Miller property, located across from Rancho del Mar Shopping Center on Soquel Drive -- are expected to be rezoned to fit 40 homes and help the county fulfill its affordable housing quota for the state.

And the setback is now 20 feet! What the heck, did you not pass your ESL class?

Now as far as the Corona crack I'm probably wrong. White and Mexican trash all drink Budweiser. A fine foreign brew now of all things!
I happen to agree

Santa Cruz, CA

#36 Nov 18, 2008
Aptos has always had the most stuck up folks in the county. Judging by these comments where a lot of them don't even know where this is, I guess they are also dim wits.

Santa Cruz, CA

#37 Nov 18, 2008
As a third generation resident of the county, I've lived in Santa Cruz, Watsonville, and Aptos.

It noticed that drugs, gang activity, even teen prostitution was more concentrated at these "housing projects." Race was not the issue, values were.

This is one of the least affordable places to live in the country (cost of housing & pay). We do need housing for those who are working in low pay jobs & need to live here.

We should help people who can't work, but for those and for those who WON'T work, I've never understood why it's a good idea for taxpayers to subsidize their lives in a resort area. Drive through these housing units and notice that there are lots of very nice cars.

We could help twice as many people with housing in the Central Valley since its costs half as much. In Aptos, why not have a normal market housing and help for those who qualify instead of making another haven for crime?

Santa Cruz, CA

#38 Nov 18, 2008
As a teacher in Aptos, I look forward to this project as it might let me actually buy a house within biking distance from my work. I've looked at the plans and the setback from the riparian area is about 100 feet above the creek. The creek is over 300 feet away from where they will build - Aptos Park and a whole condo complex are a lot closer to the creek than this project will be - the riparian issue is not an issue at all.

United States

#39 Nov 18, 2008
Kate wrote:
Hey I live in Live Oak and my husband and I qualified for a Measure J condo. If you and your partner make under $75K per year, are first time home buyers and work full time you too can buy a two bedroom condo for $200k...two blocks from the beach.
Not all low income families are trash. We take pride in where we are and are extremely thankful that we were able to purchase a home in SC.
i think they are referring to the families who will be stuffing twelve into a two bedroom,walking around with pants around their knees, breaking into your cars and thrownig their dirty diapers out of their '89 slammed civic with a gold chain license plate holder.

Santa Cruz, CA

#42 Nov 18, 2008
Lou wrote: "Drive through these housing units and notice that there are lots of very nice cars.'
i thought I was the only noticing that. In the Live Oak area section 8 renters are driving new SUVs and late model bmw's all the while claiming they can't afford to pay the market rent

Santa Cruz, CA

#43 Nov 18, 2008
Hmm...actually, I just found that the developer interested in building here is not a non-profit. 40% affordable, the other 44 units will be at market rate. This will be a nice project - near the bus line, the store, restaurants, and the park. I can't wait! All you haters who think high density means gangs and crimes don't know shite!

Santa Cruz, CA

#46 Nov 18, 2008
oh please wrote:
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You are a teacher? Why are you commenting at 10:00 in the morning? Why aren't you teaching right now?(or are you?)
You will NOT qualify for these units! Nor will fire fighters and nurses! That is the biggest lie the county tells us when proposing this garbage! "We need to house our fire fighter, teachers and health care workers...bla bla bla" NOT!!!! Only the lowest of incomes qualify. That will bring all the good stuff associated with it...you know the drill...CRIME, GARBAGE, GRAFFITI etc!!
And what about all those KIDS??? ahhhhhh!!! Say hello to more ESL wild out of control kids at Mar Vista!
Sick at home today - it happens.

Watsonville, CA

#47 Nov 18, 2008
Celebrate Self-Destruction!:)

San Jose, CA

#48 Nov 18, 2008
Why ruin our nice town? You will have trashy people, 15 to a house, with nice cars lowered with rims, and sound systems living here.

We don't need that! I like my upper class neighborhood. Keep it nice, don't trash it up!

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