Teen gets life sentence for Beach Hill fatal stabbing

A teenager convicted of fatally stabbing another teen during a fight in a Beach Hill motel room nearly two years ago may spend the rest of his life in prison, a judge ruled Wednesday. Full Story
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only thug was cardenas

San Jose, CA

#28 Aug 5, 2010
SANTA CRUZ wrote:
I am sure ANY parents of a girl would not have minded that thier daughter get beaten up.
I'm pretty sure that most parents don't want their 14-year-old daughter sleeping with future-to-be-convicted-murdere rs, either. Those jailhouse gang tats done while waiting for trial really won't help to win her folks over.
pickles

United States

#30 Aug 5, 2010
16 to life means once he has spent 16 years he can go before the parole board, if they gets denied he stays in jail until his parole hearing comes up again (don't know how long the intervals are) if he never gets granted parole, then it will truly be a life sentence. murder doesn't get you half time credits. not sure how many they get.
Get a life

San Jose, CA

#32 Aug 6, 2010
What about wrote:
What about the girl that started this whole chain of events? She rented the room then after she had sex with Cardenas she accused the victim of robbing her which caused him to lose his life. Does she have any accountability in all of this or will they just say it was a "bad choice" on her part? Sad that us parents arent doing their job.
ya no shit Samantha is responsible for the whole chain of events yet once again she doesn't have to be accountable for her actions she is just as responsible for that poor boys death yet no one even said anything about her and she stole a car before this and crashed it while high on dope someone needs to get her off the street before she helps get another innocent victim killed!!!!!
Lindersv

Livermore, CA

#33 Aug 6, 2010
SANTA CRUZ wrote:
Come on people, your daughter is getting beaten up and another kid steps in to help her and you convict him ? The thug was beaten up a girl, who knows what else he was going to do to her, rape her ? who knows, but he sure did not seem to be decent guy..
Think you've got it wrong, I think the boy that was killed was the one that tried to intervene so it was the THUG that was convicted of murder.
There are too many problems caused by teenagers renting motel rooms for drinking / party nights, you get alcohol / pot and teenagers together, motel needs to stop renting to these groups.
Samantha

Salinas, CA

#34 Aug 20, 2010
I KNEW JONATHAN FROM ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HE WAS A SUPER NICE AND RESPECTFUL YOUNG MAN. GROWING UP IN SALINAS, CA A LOT OF YOUNG BOYS MAKE THE WRONG DECISION AND TURN TO GANGS..HE DID SOMETHING SO WRONG BUT NONE OF YOU SHOULD BE WISHING BAD FOR HIM. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. THINK ABOUT IT. DONT BE HEARTLESS.
xsanta cruz resident

Auburn, CA

#35 Sep 13, 2010
I chose to move away from the town i grew up in after a friend was hit in a drive by, aimed for one of the Cardenas boys, i loaded up my family and moved away, yes i chose to leave and not fight for the town i grew up in. Many years later, the son of the intended victim is in prison. I say GOOD! its about time Justice steps in were the parents failed. get these @-holes off the streets before the next litter of Cardenas thugs take over.
childhood friends

Salinas, CA

#36 Nov 8, 2010
jonathan defended a young girl... he doesnt deserve life... im sorry but i grew up with the kid at a very young age and i know him from the bottom of my heart.
Ivette Martinez

White Plains, NY

#37 Nov 8, 2010
Local Observer wrote:
Hope you like your new 8 x 10 cement bedroom. I wonder if your friends will vist ya. Most likely not.
I agree with you on that, it is true and unfair
Soquel Local

Salinas, CA

#38 Nov 8, 2010
One word for Cardenas: Vaseline!
justice system is a joke

United States

#39 Nov 10, 2010
has anyone been watching and reading and researching and listening to anything about our justice system? They screw up all the time. You want this kid to die? Do any of you have any idea how many people in our nation die because the juries made a mistake because the police and other law enforcement, justice seeking people are willing to stack the evidence in the favor most sought by them?

You know...lie...cheat...plant evidence...remove evidence....the stuff they do all the time.

Another cop just killed a person in Oakland yesterday...this man was unarmed. Let me see a BART cop just got two years for murder, that man was not armed either and he was sitting on the ground, what do you think this murdering cop is going to get? What a month...they said he ran, maybe a day without pay?

Yeah...you bet I feel for this kid. I don't trust cops because cops lie all the time, they kill, they trade sex to get out of a ticket, they beat, they abuse and they do anything they f=ing want and they get away with it because the tax dollar you pay goes to their defense...that and the state of California protects their actions. TWO YEARS FOR TAKING A LIFE IS OK WITH YOU BUT YOU WANT TO GIVE THIS KID LIFE.

Why...because he was not a bully with a badge and a gun?

He said the law screwed things up...well I for one want to hear what they screwed up because an over zealous aggressive, excessive, bully in blue has arrested me before an I had just woke up and hadn't left my home in over 3 weeks caused by surgery and recovery.

No...I want more answers from the cops and I want definitive proof this kid DID what the cops said he did and what happened really happened the way the COPS said it did.

I took my abuser to court and 4 years later I am still fighting it. Just because he's a cop he was given immunity for most of his law breaking actions against me and lets not forget his brother killed two people (yes, the cops brother killed two people and his father also looks as violent as the cop and the killer)but just because the law says so you want this kid to go down.

I know of another Santa Cruz boy in prison today because the cops said he took a life also. He didn't but the cops said he did so his mom is now working multiple jobs and traveling every week to see her teen son and hope she will win an appeal for his life. He's been in there for at least 4 years. I know this kid, wrong place wrong time and planted evidence got him life too. NO...this kid may have had the knife, he may have even used it but we will never know why or how and now any thing we hear is tainted because the cops labeled this kid a killer...they had to...it's all they could come up with.

And you suckers fell for it, you'll never give this kid a chance, fair trial...HA!

You people need to look for truth, not just be happy the cops said its all done and tied up with a real neat bow. Few things are that easy.

COURTS decide what gets heard by the jury. Much of the truth is thrown out by the judge before the jury hears a word and what they get to hear is very much the interpretation of law as the JUDGE sees it, not the way it was written.

Unless you've dealt with our justice system and seen the way it is set to go supreme court, federal court, appeals court, superior court and that's if it does not get thrown out first all the way. IN which case you then have to file an appeals just to get to the supreme court. Every step is expensive to the court, let alone the attorney fees.

The justice system is set up to cost hundreds of thousands for a verdict and if you don't have it, just take your walk now, save your family from bankruptcy...

JUSTICE IN THE STATES....what a joke

You people better wake up, cops already break the law all the time, carry a belt full of weapons they have no problem using against all of us and you feel they are capable of delivering a true and fair verdict.

WAKE UP. That's not possible.
justice system is a joke

United States

#40 Nov 10, 2010
Ivette Martinez wrote:
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I agree with you on that, it is true and unfair
I believe you. Our justice system works only when they can no longer hide from the truth. Don't stop, it's impossible to get the truth unless his loved ones keep working at it. Otherwise he will be a forgotten boy.

Please don't allow that to happen.

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