One County Board of Education race re...

One County Board of Education race remains too close to call; 20,000 ballots yet to be counted

There are 17 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Nov 4, 2010, titled One County Board of Education race remains too close to call; 20,000 ballots yet to be counted. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

It's wait-and-see time for two candidates seeking to represent Bonny Doon, Davenport and parts of Scotts Valley and the San Lorenzo Valley on the county Board of Education, with only 21 votes separating them.

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JJJ

Vallejo, CA

#1 Nov 4, 2010
wow, score one for snarky. "I think the voters liked the buzzwords she used".
Wait and see

Santa Cruz, CA

#2 Nov 4, 2010
Yes, George had a large group of volunteers. Who worked tirelessly. But both The Sentinel and Hinde got it wrong.

We are mainly parents of students and former students who got to know George as an amazing Math teacher who made a difference with our children. And when he let us know he was running we wanted to support him in this race.

Most of us have NO LINK WHATSOEVER to unions. But we do care about students and the future of public education.

And we do support George. And that message resonated with voters. Getting it at this point to at least " too close to call"

No matter the final outcome, this campaign was already a huge success and the community members are now more aware that decisions made by the COE do effect every local school district.

And George is right. The COE could do a better job with more experienced leaders.

Oh and BTW, Aaron continues to be ill informed. The Candidate requesting a re-count pays.

NOT the tax payers.
That experience thing

Santa Cruz, CA

#3 Nov 4, 2010
Yeah, that whole experience thing is interesting. Sentinel let him get away with saying not doing a recount saves taxpayers money. Just like they let him get away with saying he gets credit for a balanced budget at the COE, when that's required by law and it done by the staff and supt not Aaron. If he gets re-elected, we'll need to help him continue to learn on the job.
Wait and see wrote:
Yes, George had a large group of volunteers. Who worked tirelessly. But both The Sentinel and Hinde got it wrong.
We are mainly parents of students and former students who got to know George as an amazing Math teacher who made a difference with our children. And when he let us know he was running we wanted to support him in this race.
Most of us have NO LINK WHATSOEVER to unions. But we do care about students and the future of public education.
And we do support George. And that message resonated with voters. Getting it at this point to at least " too close to call"
No matter the final outcome, this campaign was already a huge success and the community members are now more aware that decisions made by the COE do effect every local school district.
And George is right. The COE could do a better job with more experienced leaders.
Oh and BTW, Aaron continues to be ill informed. The Candidate requesting a re-count pays.
NOT the tax payers.
taxpayer money

Santa Cruz, CA

#4 Nov 4, 2010
Yes, that dig about not wanting to "waste the taxpayer's money" on a recount is just wrong on the facts.

ANYONE (not just a candidate) can request a recount, but the person making the request is responsible for covering the cost.

http://www.votescount.com/recount.htm
grassroots

Oakland, CA

#5 Nov 4, 2010
Wait and see wrote:
Yes, George had a large group of volunteers. Who worked tirelessly. But both The Sentinel and Hinde got it wrong.
We are mainly parents of students and former students who got to know George as an amazing Math teacher who made a difference with our children. And when he let us know he was running we wanted to support him in this race.
Most of us have NO LINK WHATSOEVER to unions. But we do care about students and the future of public education.
And we do support George. And that message resonated with voters. Getting it at this point to at least " too close to call"
No matter the final outcome, this campaign was already a huge success and the community members are now more aware that decisions made by the COE do effect every local school district.
And George is right. The COE could do a better job with more experienced leaders.
Oh and BTW, Aaron continues to be ill informed. The Candidate requesting a re-count pays.
NOT the tax payers.
Don't forget all of the school board members throughout the county, but especially those in this trustee area. These elected officials were Hinde's to keep, but he lost their support. When a cross section of parents, teachers, school board members and unions support the newcomer, it's a referendum on the incumbent.
SCVoter

Santa Cruz, CA

#6 Nov 4, 2010
Martinez is showing his true colors. A poor loser is low class. I admire how Hinde steps up and states he will not waste taxpayer funds for a needless recount. Hinde is the better choice and the voters have spoken their clear choice. Martinez needs to take his loss like a man and step out. If he had any degree of class he would congratulate Hinde and go away.
Wow

Santa Cruz, CA

#7 Nov 4, 2010
SCVoter wrote:
Martinez is showing his true colors. A poor loser is low class. I admire how Hinde steps up and states he will not waste taxpayer funds for a needless recount. Hinde is the better choice and the voters have spoken their clear choice. Martinez needs to take his loss like a man and step out. If he had any degree of class he would congratulate Hinde and go away.
Talk about showing your true colors...

And are you suggesting that we should just ignore a few thousand not-yet-counted ballots? I bet the people who took them into precincts on Tuesday really appreciate that.
Union Money

San Jose, CA

#8 Nov 4, 2010
taxpayer money wrote:
Yes, that dig about not wanting to "waste the taxpayer's money" on a recount is just wrong on the facts.
ANYONE (not just a candidate) can request a recount, but the person making the request is responsible for covering the cost.
http://www.votescount.com/recount.htm
I'm sure the union can afford to pay for it.
duh

Chicago, IL

#9 Nov 4, 2010
Ummm, scvoter, did you fail to read the other statements? The person requesting the recount pays for it. You admire how Hinde steps up and says "he doesn't want to waste taxpayers money"...so you admire that he doesn't even know the laws regarding how a recount is paid for? Cool.
numbers

Santa Cruz, CA

#10 Nov 4, 2010
Just for clarity:

Hinde won the early absentee vote 1885-1695.

Marintez won the precinct vote 3406-3237.

There are probably about 2500 legitimate, valid ballots still to be counted.

Nobody's won. Nobody's lost. And nobody should be telling anyone to "go away."
PAC money

Santa Cruz, CA

#11 Nov 4, 2010
Union Money wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure the union can afford to pay for it.
Hinde is the one who raised $12,000+, mostly in large donations.
Moneta

Santa Cruz, CA

#12 Nov 4, 2010
SCVoter wrote:
Martinez is showing his true colors. A poor loser is low class. I admire how Hinde steps up and states he will not waste taxpayer funds for a needless recount. Hinde is the better choice and the voters have spoken their clear choice. Martinez needs to take his loss like a man and step out. If he had any degree of class he would congratulate Hinde and go away.
With thousands of votes left to count, you're so sure of the winner? Do you have a crystal ball or do tarot card readings? Or do you think the rest of the votes simply shouldn't count? Only people who go to the polls should have their votes count? Do you know that some people in this county don't have a polling place and must vote by mail?

If the vote is very close, I think an automatic recount is triggered anyway, and neither candidate pays. I wonder if it comes very close in favor of Martinez, Hinde would request that automatic recount not take place?
Moneta

Santa Cruz, CA

#13 Nov 4, 2010
Correction: I guess CA doesn't have an automatic recall system as some other states do.
Ellis

Santa Cruz, CA

#14 Nov 4, 2010
George Martinez, Union Leader.

That's all we need to know.
Ron Paul Endorser

Santa Cruz, CA

#15 Nov 4, 2010
Aaron Hinde, Republican Party Operative and Endorser of Ron Paul. That's all we need to know.
Ellis wrote:
George Martinez, Union Leader.
That's all we need to know.
Reality Check time

Santa Cruz, CA

#16 Nov 4, 2010
The only reason anyone would want George to concede is because they fear the real vote count when all is said and done... an attempt to manipulate the system that has accuracy provisions built into it when the vote is so close. For the record, this vote will be recounted by hand as per the requirements of the proper protocol ...at no single person's expense.

When the smoke clears... George Martinez will be our new voice on the County Office of Education... a long awaited change for the positive. You will see total transparency from George ...no secrets in the back room.

By the way. George's first campaign promise was to take down his signs the first day after the election as the law suggests. Check mark... done! Hinde's signs are still up. So much for compliance with the law.

Those of you who put down unions don't seem to realize that unions are our last best hope for standing up for the rights of the worker ants in our society. The unions are the reason we don't have children working under unfair labor practices! Corporations allow child labor in sweat shops in 3rd world countries to optimize profits... regardless of integrity thereof. The alternative to Unions is to trust the Corporations to do the right thing... and they have a far worse record of corruption and worker abuse than any union ever had. Only the Simon Legrees of the world hate unions... and those misinformed of the facts. The union has served local educators with complete honesty and integrity for the past 30 years. The days of Jimmy Hoffa are long gone. The days of Lehman Brothers, Enron and BP are right now!!!!!!! Reality check time. If you are anti-union, you are living in the past. We need unions more now than ever. Believe it!!
Perspective

Monterey, CA

#17 Nov 4, 2010
Both campaigns will now focus on the inegrity of the Elections Department.

A lot of fraud can take place at this stage of the campaign.

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