Dinner train could chug between Santa...

Dinner train could chug between Santa Cruz, Davenport

There are 94 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Feb 12, 2010, titled Dinner train could chug between Santa Cruz, Davenport. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

County transportation leaders are proposing a dinner train between Santa Cruz and Davenport in hopes of expediting state funds to buy the county's 32-mile rail line.

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John

United States

#1 Feb 12, 2010
.........."cautiously optimistic"......yeah, me too.
I'd love to see it happen; I just don't see how.
Weewillywagger

San Jose, CA

#2 Feb 12, 2010
So the line is still worth 14.2 million even after the Davenport plant closes? I guess its just free money coming from the gutted pockets of a state going through a complete financial meltdown and wondering what parks to close.
Ron Sanjer

Union City, CA

#3 Feb 12, 2010
Are you f*ing kidding me? With all the troubles in this state, we precious Santa Cruzans deserve state funding for a pet-project that has nothing to do with day-to-day quality of life, education, housing.....? Seriously, we've got to have the stupidest city officials of any population this educated, anywhere. Greedy, too, but not in a useful or effective way.
Concerned

San Mateo, CA

#4 Feb 12, 2010
Millions of dollars for a train line that rich people can eat dinner on? Yeah, makes total sense to me.

Please tell me there's a greater good to all of this... It sounds like there is, but I can't think of it at this hour.
Good idea but

Santa Cruz, CA

#6 Feb 12, 2010
Anything we as a city/county can do to keep the possibility of rail transit alive here is worth pursuing. One rail project like this might well open the door to others. But I foresee (at least) one problem with the dinner train idea--insufficient accommodations for overnight visitors in Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz, which arguably is an ideal tourist town that has great potential for raising revenue based on overnight visitors, is (IMHO) grossly undersupplied with hotel rooms. If well-heeled visitors are going to pay big bucks to have dinner on a train, with wine or cocktails, they are probably not going to want to drive back over the hill or back up or down the coast afterward. I also don't think such a venture would survive on locals-only trade. So... Little-communicated fact: transient occupancy tax from hotel/motel accommodations is one of the city's greatest potential (and largely untapped) sources of revenue.

“Oh well, been called worse ”

Since: Sep 09

Santa Cruz

#7 Feb 12, 2010
Uhm , How long does it take to get from Santa Cruz to Davenport on that rail line ? 20 or 25 minutes ? Thats a quick dinner . Just saying,,, thats all :):):):)
Guv here to help

Soquel, CA

#8 Feb 12, 2010
"Since then, state dollars have dried up..." as they well should!!! Throwing money away on this is folly is patently ridiculous!
Last time I checked, Federal, State, County, City funds all come from the same Taxpayer! Yet these buffoons seem to think that anything they dream up will be magically funded by some outside their box entity. Sheeze, no wonder we're bankrupt!

Since: May 08

Santa Cruz, CA

#9 Feb 12, 2010
Give it up, folks. The goose that lays the golden eggs is dead. The state is broke. There is no money anywhere to pay for this.

Find private investors to pay for this, if it's such a great deal.
Felton Resident

United States

#10 Feb 12, 2010
I see another (more) bond(s) being added to our future property taxes to maintain this boondoggle.
Rob

Daly City, CA

#11 Feb 12, 2010
Set that money aside to help with the next phase of additional lanes on hiway 1 - something we actually NEED.
Simmer Down

San Jose, CA

#12 Feb 12, 2010
What a waste of money. Tear the tracks up! Santa Cruz needs more police and social services. I wish our representatives would stop playing around with non-issues. The problem is they don't know how to fix the real problems so they dabble with nonsense.
Westsider

Brisbane, CA

#13 Feb 12, 2010
Certainly having a dinner train is a far more useful way to spend taxpayer stimulus dollars than on fixing potholes, creating a secondary exit at 9 and 1, providing more bus service, or cleaning storm drains on major streets. Wouldn't want to see taxpayer dollars wasted on stimulus if there is a way to spend it on a "
dinner train" connecting to nowhere except Davenport. Sounds like a money maker, doesn't it?
give it to our schools

Santa Cruz, CA

#14 Feb 12, 2010
get that money to our schools
insight

Santa Cruz, CA

#15 Feb 12, 2010
In case some of our local dreamers missed it, the insight to be drawn from recent financial events is...

It's a bad idea to commit to spending money you don't have, in order to buy things you don't need.
trisha0790

Watsonville, CA

#16 Feb 12, 2010
This is one political hot potato I'm not going to touch. Having said that, though, I would buy tickets for the dinner train if it ever gets up and running. The view would be fabulous!
But jimi is right; it's a short trip. Maybe it should be a wine and appetizer train...
SomeGuy

Santa Cruz, CA

#17 Feb 12, 2010
If this lead to a permanent/real transportation solution between Watsonville and Santa Cruz, then It would make sense. Since a majority of the population lives along the Highway 1 corridor, and commuter rail service would make some sense.

Getting taxpayer money to pay for a dinner train, however, just shows how out of touch the county politicians are. When people talk about "fearing my government", I agree, but it isn't the federal government I fear. It's the local politicians that scare the crap out of me.
Ben

Windsor, CA

#18 Feb 12, 2010
Has anyone looked into the financial viability of such a project? Dinner trains around the country are going broke. They change hands frequently as one investor after another thinks they can make a difference with a better business model. But it never happens. I doubt anyone has looked at the cost of running, maintaining, and stocking such a project would be compared against the generated revenue. How many people living in, or coming to, Santa Cruz currently pay $100 to $150 per person on dinner? Zilch. When you look at other dinner trains, or wine trains, that's about what it costs.
This would be a foolish venture and a complete waste of taxpayer's money. A venture the taxpayer's would be forced to subsidize in the future. It might be free money now, but it will cost a fortune in the future.
kin

United States

#19 Feb 12, 2010
Great for the old carbon foot print, a smoke belching diesel to haul a few rich folks up to the former town of davenport. I'm all for enjoying that stretch of coast so lets rip the tracks and put in a hiker/biker path that everyone can use.
stumped

Moorcroft, WY

#20 Feb 12, 2010
will they accept food stamps, can one pay for it with their welfare checks, can one trade dope, will they do body scans, does one have to pay for extra "baggage", does one have to remove ones shoes, "seriously"....
Get with it

United States

#21 Feb 12, 2010
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