Micah Posner: Nothing risky about buy...

Micah Posner: Nothing risky about buying rail corridor

There are 15 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Apr 11, 2010, titled Micah Posner: Nothing risky about buying rail corridor. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

There is nothing risky about buying the coastal rail corridor other than the fact that it represents progress.

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Ummm

Santa Cruz, CA

#2 Apr 11, 2010
"While no one knows exactly how much a trail or a public rail service will cost, one thing is certain. Buying the rail line is the first step toward making these projects possible."

Oh yep, that's for certain. Nice catch.

What color is the sky on your planet, exactly? What dearth of logic and prudence combines to produce such damaged thinking? Are you allowed to even manage your allowance, or government check?
rwc

Stockton, CA

#3 Apr 11, 2010
Ummm wrote:
"While no one knows exactly how much a trail or a public rail service will cost, one thing is certain. Buying the rail line is the first step toward making these projects possible."
Oh yep, that's for certain. Nice catch.
What color is the sky on your planet, exactly? What dearth of logic and prudence combines to produce such damaged thinking? Are you allowed to even manage your allowance, or government check?
....Agreed. However, check part of the second paragraph:

"Simply putting this corridor under public ownership comes with no commitment to spending additional public money and no risk."

....The guy's a logical idiot.
cash flush

Oakland, CA

#8 Apr 11, 2010
"In order to receive the money, the SCCRTC is agreeing to lease the tracks to a recreational tourist train operator for a run from Santa Cruz to Davenport. The operator will pay the SCCRTC enough to cover the cost of maintaining the track"

Wow,I really don't believe this is true at all...
Eugene

Oakland, CA

#9 Apr 11, 2010
Micah Posner would make Karl Rove and Dick Cheney proud.

It is at our collective peril that this community follows *any* recommendation made by Posner & his associates. And I'm a liberal, bike-riding, UCSC alum. Some of us are capable of grasping reality and recognizing magical thinking and delusional persuasion when we see it.
JustAskin

Santa Cruz, CA

#10 Apr 11, 2010
Is there anything in life with "no risk" that is of value?

Hey, Micah, if you truly believe this rail purchase has no risk prove it by using your own money, not ours.
faye

San Francisco, CA

#11 Apr 11, 2010
there is no room for a path alongside the tracks on the many narrow and rotting trestles nor would the federal agency which has the oversight of safety on all US railbeds approve of such a plan. It's unsafe for train, hikers and bikers. Can we now convince the bike/hike advocates and the SCCRTC to stop dreaming? It's a waste of our time.
loweroceanlocal

Santa Cruz, CA

#12 Apr 11, 2010
diogenes wrote:
Biko-fascist Pozner is a freak who would not be given the time of day in a community populated by predominantly normal people.
When I see this anarchist-in-training transporting all of his purchases (and I mean all) by bicycle, I might give him a small amount of respect.
Good luck hauling that new refrigerator, Micah.
every year in the bike parade there is a guy who hauls a vw bug with a bike.... using a trailer. so yeah you can haul a refrigorator using a bike. not that i am a bike facist or anything... im just saying... by the way there is nothing wrong with encouraging the use of bikes as a form of local transportation, the rail trail would be a good alternative to paying for the hospitalization and transportation of those injured riding on mission street. i bet it would balance out.
diogenes

United States

#13 Apr 11, 2010
loweroceanlocal wrote:
<quoted text>
every year in the bike parade there is a guy who hauls a vw bug with a bike.... using a trailer. so yeah you can haul a refrigorator using a bike. not that i am a bike facist or anything... im just saying... by the way there is nothing wrong with encouraging the use of bikes as a form of local transportation, the rail trail would be a good alternative to paying for the hospitalization and transportation of those injured riding on mission street. i bet it would balance out.
Sure, I agree. I'm not against increased bicycle use. I'm against fanatics like Posner who ram their narrow-minded opinions down everyone else's throats.

I've seen an old newsreel where a strongman pulls a locomotive with his teeth. Just because it can be done does not mean that its practical.
jgolder

Walnut Creek, CA

#14 Apr 11, 2010
Just examining the idea of "moving the tracks to one side"(of the right of way)...Let's see there's demo & salvage, storage & security of salvaged materials, re-survey, fill & regrading, compaction, reballasting, rerouting drainage, extending culverts, redesigning trestles, rebuilding all crossings, redoing signals & signage.. Don't forget the EIR and environmental mitigation, and traffic and sound studies.

Get REAL Micah.... this is more than a million dollars per mile to "move things over".

If we charged bikers & hikers a toll for the costs and maintenance, just what do you think that would come to?

Wait a few years and the price will be half of what it is today.
Lighten up

Vernalis, CA

#15 Apr 11, 2010
Why should we care about "return on investment"? We use public funds (which most all of us chip in on) for public projects, based on priorities decided upon by the public. Do parks have a positive return on investment? Do public streets? Government cannot and should not be run like a corporation; its mandate is completely different.
Want to contribute to deficit reduction? Quit driving your car which we all subsidize (roads, traffic cops, bridges); don't dump on the bike riders.
b40roller

United States

#16 Apr 11, 2010
Micah, please control your crank-mob, critical mass crowd. Teach them to follow the rules of the road. On the RR right of way purchase, I agree with ya. I love walking along railroad tracks. A true feeling of americana when I do so alone with my insane rant filled thoughts to myself. Bet some readers here would appreciate if I kept those to myself more often but to dang bad, this is the internet. Deal with it.
A Spending we Will Go

Daly City, CA

#18 Apr 11, 2010
Micah, I appreciate your enthusiasm and can even tolerate your condescending opinions.

Why not take that $19 million and pay down the debt, can you please justify the $19 million benefit for our community. I don't think you did in your opinion page.

Even your last statement is off base..
"While no one knows exactly how much a trail or a public rail service will cost, one thing is certain"

Yeah let's buy it but have NO IDEA what it will cost. Stop ruining our town, you have overstayed your welcome. This is coming from a local who has roots back over 125 years. Beat it bud!
Bob

Santa Cruz, CA

#19 Apr 11, 2010
this guy is a clown....he's trying to project himself as some
sort of an expert whose opinion has a lot of value, when in fact all he is trying to do is brainwash people to go along with what he wants.Go ride your bike in traffic micah.
Matt Kay

Brentwood, CA

#20 Apr 11, 2010
Let Poser and the RTC have their little pet project. It should keep them consumed for at least a few years so they won't have any time to propose any new hair brained ideas for a while. They can all stroke each other off while waiting for the real imbroglio to begin. Congratulations to the previous owner of the tracks - you got rid of a wasting asset and still made a handsome profit.

“This is only a test of the ...”

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#22 Nov 16, 2010
Micah Posner is a delusional idiot who doesn't care what this purchase costs as long as he gets a bike trail. Anything he states must be viewed in the context of his narrow agenda.

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