VSU students and Valdosta Police Dept

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Manny G

Lawrenceville, GA

#1 Feb 11, 2009
As an out of towner with a kid at VSU, I am very curious to know if my perception that the Valdosta Police Department takes satisfaction in busting 18 years old for drinking is accurate. Do these police officers "high five" each other after they "bust" a group of kids with Bud Light in the frig? Does Valdosta have any real crime? What is the perception of this police department among VSU students?
shadow

Leesburg, GA

#2 Feb 11, 2009
Manny G wrote:
As an out of towner with a kid at VSU, I am very curious to know if my perception that the Valdosta Police Department takes satisfaction in busting 18 years old for drinking is accurate. Do these police officers "high five" each other after they "bust" a group of kids with Bud Light in the frig? Does Valdosta have any real crime? What is the perception of this police department among VSU students?
Well, if the kids are under the age of 21, they are breaking a state law.
Are you condoning under the age drinking?
ARI

United States

#3 Feb 12, 2009
and then when that same 18 year old is injuried or killed in an alcohol related incident, it's the same parent that wants to blame the police for not preventing their child from obtaining the alcohol in the first place.
AGREE WITH ARI

Tifton, GA

#4 Feb 12, 2009
Exactly! But it just goes along with the epidemic in the country that the children/teens are NEVER in the wrong and it is always the authority figures that are in the wrong...everyone from teachers, police officers, etc.
When we were growing up...we were in the wrong until proven otherwise. The adult, the teacher, the police officer were always RIGHT!
Manny G

Venice, FL

#5 Feb 18, 2009
shadow wrote:
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Well, if the kids are under the age of 21, they are breaking a state law.
Are you condoning under the age drinking?
I am not condoning under age drinking. At the same time, raise your hand if you did NOT drink a Bud before the legal age in your state. The reality is that many under age college students do in fact drink alcohol. In one instance, the students elected to walk home instead of driving but were subsequently stopped and arrested by VPD for under age drinking as judged by their behavior. The police officer was doing his job. The question remains, is this were we want to spend our resources--"shooting the fish in the barrel"?
Manny G

Venice, FL

#6 Feb 18, 2009
AGREE WITH ARI wrote:
Exactly! But it just goes along with the epidemic in the country that the children/teens are NEVER in the wrong and it is always the authority figures that are in the wrong...everyone from teachers, police officers, etc.
When we were growing up...we were in the wrong until proven otherwise. The adult, the teacher, the police officer were always RIGHT!
You have taken my question and gone off on a tired old cliche of the "good 'ol day". You have no proof of some kind of social "epidemic". On the other hand, Bill Clinton might fit your "epidemic". I did not say the police were wrong. College kids are going to drink, many of them will actually get a designated driver if they have driven to a bar. All I am asking is does the VPD have enough officers and resources to arrest college students every night instead of working on the real crime, if any, that might exist in Valdosta. For what it's worth, you may want to check with some older African Americans who were kids in South Georgia in the 50s, 60s and 70s and see if they agree that the Police were always right.
Manny G

Venice, FL

#7 Feb 18, 2009
ARI wrote:
and then when that same 18 year old is injuried or killed in an alcohol related incident, it's the same parent that wants to blame the police for not preventing their child from obtaining the alcohol in the first place.
Your logic does not make sense. The Police should stop anyone who is driving under the influence, regardless of age. The parents, to the extent that they can, are responsible for teaching their kids not to drink and drive. Anyone who blames the police as you describe is simply wrong.
drinker_of_legal _age

Carbondale, IL

#8 Mar 15, 2009
One topic to discuss...is the laughing joke that we call REMERTON POLICE DEPARTMENT...do you know Remerton Police prides itself on DUI arrests? It seems its easier to arrest DUI offenders than actually prevent. After talking to 2 diff. Valdosta/Remerton officers, the department...chooses a technique to catch offenders by awaiting outside of remerton until the intoxicants are already in the vehicle. Instead of stopping them at the bar before entrance of the vehicle they pride to get another DUI number. over 600 DUI arrests last year...they rather you commit the crime and be caught..than actually stop you before getting in the vehicle...in turn preventing incidents at all (Real "Protect" and Serve)...NOTE: and why isn't there any (if not just 1 but more) Taxi Services in Remerton (and why do they close earlier)? mmmm....must be another way to increase that DUI statistic...hey! RPD and VPD....high fuckin' five
Cluelessbutwellm eaning

Valdosta, GA

#9 Mar 16, 2009
With its cheap rental housing and lack of a real economic base, Remerton fills its city coffers by selling alcohol to underage kids and then busting them for it. Their police department is staffed with the dregs of Lowndes County law enforcement.
The city was hit with a $900,000 judgment in 2005 after a federal count determined that three of their police officers harassed patrons of a bar, Herbie's Hideaway.
John F

Valdosta, GA

#10 May 16, 2009
Cluelessbutwellmeaning wrote:
With its cheap rental housing and lack of a real economic base, Remerton fills its city coffers by selling alcohol to underage kids and then busting them for it. Their police department is staffed with the dregs of Lowndes County law enforcement.
The city was hit with a $900,000 judgment in 2005 after a federal count determined that three of their police officers harassed patrons of a bar, Herbie's Hideaway.
The question was about VPD not Remerton.
If you dumb enough to get caught then you deserve it. Drink at your house. If your underage drinking where the police can see you and doing something stupid like fighting, yelling, loud music, drunk driving, urinating in public, etc then that attracts police attention. Keep a low profile and cops wont bother you.
I saw a VPD officer arrest several fratastics in Drexel park one night. They were drinking beer, throwing the beer cans into a playground sand box and one was urinating on the swingset, this was about 10pm. If your as dumb as they are then you deserve to get busted.
John F

Valdosta, GA

#11 May 16, 2009
drinker_of_legal_age wrote:
One topic to discuss...is the laughing joke that we call REMERTON POLICE DEPARTMENT...do you know Remerton Police prides itself on DUI arrests? It seems its easier to arrest DUI offenders than actually prevent. After talking to 2 diff. Valdosta/Remerton officers, the department...chooses a technique to catch offenders by awaiting outside of remerton until the intoxicants are already in the vehicle. Instead of stopping them at the bar before entrance of the vehicle they pride to get another DUI number. over 600 DUI arrests last year...they rather you commit the crime and be caught..than actually stop you before getting in the vehicle...in turn preventing incidents at all (Real "Protect" and Serve)...NOTE: and why isn't there any (if not just 1 but more) Taxi Services in Remerton (and why do they close earlier)? mmmm....must be another way to increase that DUI statistic...hey! RPD and VPD....high fuckin' five
VPD has no jurisdiction in Remerton so they arent allowed to enter it per their own policy unless passing through to get to a priority call. VPD officers couldn't stop DUI inside remerton, thats Remertons job.
If you dont want a DUI then dont drive drunk or at least dont park in remerton or drink there.
Jason C

Ocean View, DE

#12 Oct 8, 2009
Manny G wrote:
As an out of towner with a kid at VSU, I am very curious to know if my perception that the Valdosta Police Department takes satisfaction in busting 18 years old for drinking is accurate. Do these police officers "high five" each other after they "bust" a group of kids with Bud Light in the frig? Does Valdosta have any real crime? What is the perception of this police department among VSU students?
I have lived in Valdosta for many years. But you pretty much have the idea of what the police department here is. I have personally heard a officer here gone on at great lengths about how he really loved busting underage frat kids at the parties. I despise frat kids and drunk college students in general, but arresting them at a party that 99% of them walked to and from is not going to help the world. Is is going to put some of them out of college and ruin their lives. I yes, I can clearly imagine "high fives" being given out all around during a bust of this kind. That having been said, most of the frats around here have police AT their parties to check IDs and what not.
Valdosta and Lowndes county spend a disgusting amount of money on police. Between Lowndes County Sheriffs, Remerton Police, Ga State Patrol, Valdosta State University Police, and Valdosta City Police (and their subdivision of "HEAT" traffic police) this city should have a 0% violent crime rate. Instead we have minor drug offenders and college kids. But we have managed 5 murders so far this year and 1 manslaughter. My neighbors house has been broken into 3 times in 1 year.
As for the people condemning the 18 year olds drinking, you should really consider what your saying. I understand that if someone drinks and drives, they are putting other people in danger and should be dealt with. That's not the issue we are getting at. The police here do have a mentality of taking pride in arresting an 18 year old that is drinking or is in possession of alcohol in a situation where the 18 year old is not putting anyone in danger. If they walk into an 18 year old student's house and see a beer in the fridge, they think it an achievement to be able to arrest that student. Yes, 18 year old college students drink. This is not new, and nothing you do will stop it; EVER. The more taboo you make it, the more popular and available it becomes. Instead, let's consider 18 year old college students responsible. Like how we let them vote. Or we let them fight and die in war. Or we hold them responsible enough for their actions to be able to consider capital punishment for an 18 year old. Or to own a gun, or get married, get a credit card, pay taxes, ect...
police34

Buena Vista, GA

#13 Oct 12, 2009
drinker_of_legal_age wrote:
One topic to discuss...is the laughing joke that we call REMERTON POLICE DEPARTMENT...do you know Remerton Police prides itself on DUI arrests? It seems its easier to arrest DUI offenders than actually prevent. After talking to 2 diff. Valdosta/Remerton officers, the department...chooses a technique to catch offenders by awaiting outside of remerton until the intoxicants are already in the vehicle. Instead of stopping them at the bar before entrance of the vehicle they pride to get another DUI number. over 600 DUI arrests last year...they rather you commit the crime and be caught..than actually stop you before getting in the vehicle...in turn preventing incidents at all (Real "Protect" and Serve)...NOTE: and why isn't there any (if not just 1 but more) Taxi Services in Remerton (and why do they close earlier)? mmmm....must be another way to increase that DUI statistic...hey! RPD and VPD....high fuckin' five
It is amazing when you drinkers try to put your irresponsible behavior on someone else. Its you all responsiblity to realize that you shouldn't be drinking and driving. It is not the police responsibilty to sit there and babysit you all while you getting drunk. But I guess you all will have to kill someone in an accident in order to get your attention, then maybe not, it will be someone esle fault according to you drunks.
police34

Buena Vista, GA

#14 Oct 12, 2009
Manny G wrote:
As an out of towner with a kid at VSU, I am very curious to know if my perception that the Valdosta Police Department takes satisfaction in busting 18 years old for drinking is accurate. Do these police officers "high five" each other after they "bust" a group of kids with Bud Light in the frig? Does Valdosta have any real crime? What is the perception of this police department among VSU students?
Manny, I wonder if you will have the same attitude if your kid(God forbid) was killed by an underage drunk driver. Many parents seem to think that the police are wrong for arresting their kids for alochol relatived incidents. The first thing you hear is go arrest some real criminals. If your child gets hit by a vehicle while they are walking/staggering from the bar drunk and staggered into the path of a vehicle I guess it will be the police fault too. I know there is alot of underage drinking that takes place in our city, but its about responsbility and its so easy to blame the police. I get no pleasure in taking someone to jail, but I rather take a drunk driver off the street before they killed themselves or some else. Whats so surprising to me is that when dealing with people who have been drinking and driving is that they rather drive drunk than call a friend or taxi.) Went to an outting this weekend, because I was driving, I drank water all night.(RESPONSIBILITY) Manny we are just enforcing the laws, sound like you need to talk to your kid and stop trying to put the blame on the police. If you don't hold these young people responsbile for their actions, then they don't think they do anything wrong.
ThinBlue

Austin, TX

#15 Oct 16, 2009
Not only do I police in this town, I also have a student at VSU. She has been told for many years not to drink, and if she does, and gets caught, that's on her! It seems that Manny had a child in this situation. If that's the case, hold YOUR child responsible, not VPD or any other law enforcement agency. Yes, it is common for many college kids to drink. Many also use drugs, steal, commit sex crimes, etc. So, who gets to decide which laws should be enforced and which should be overlooked? Yes, law enforcement has many "better" things to do. If your kids would act right and responsibly (that doesn't mean choosing to drink and walk vs. drink and drive), then they coould do those things!
Valdosta Parent

Dacula, GA

#16 Aug 8, 2012
Manny G wrote:
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I am not condoning under age drinking. At the same time, raise your hand if you did NOT drink a Bud before the legal age in your state. The reality is that many under age college students do in fact drink alcohol. In one instance, the students elected to walk home instead of driving but were subsequently stopped and arrested by VPD for under age drinking as judged by their behavior. The police officer was doing his job. The question remains, is this were we want to spend our resources--"shooting the fish in the barrel"?
I have to agree. I don't condone grinking and driving, but an 18 year old can serve in the Armed services but cant have a beer. I know I drank in college, and as did all my friends. The VDP hanging near the college apts and dorms setting up roadblocks on a friday night is darn mear entrapment. Based on what I see the VPD effort should be directed at real crime---which is not lacking in Valdosta.
Al Bundy

Davenport, IA

#17 Aug 8, 2012
I had a nephew that always got in trouble. My other nephew did just as much wrong if not more and was an honor student. He was smart enough to not get caught. So there you have it. Be smart if you are going to do dumb things.
Donot attend Valdosta Sta

Alpharetta, GA

#18 Mar 2, 2013
Remerton police are out to catch as many Valdosta State students for underage drinking as possible. They hunt them down. They look for them. They know where the parties are and then they wait until the students come out and inspect them. Even the smell of beer will get you an Underage Drinking arrest record. $300 bail. Attorney’s fees. Probation fees. The students pay for the cheap housing in Remerton. And then the police is helping all these other people make money. This is all they got going for them. They arrest the students after a party if they smell of alcohol, they don't have to be disruptive. Just walking. They arrest them right in front of their own rental house. If UGA or Georgia Tech police had this “hunter” mind set they would have a football field of kids charged with Underage Drinking. My recommendation is that if you are considering going to VSU, don’t. The police there will make your life miserable, and chances are that you will end up with an arrest record. You will be the “hunted” by the Remerton Police Department.
afb

Marietta, GA

#19 Mar 3, 2013
All I see here are a bunch of college binge drinkers who whine when they get caught. Grow up and get a life. Your momma and daddy, if you even know who they are, payed for your education... or your using student loans... to get drunk underage... you are worthless pieces of shit.
church mouse

Americus, GA

#20 Mar 6, 2013

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