Who do you support for U.S. Senate in Georgia in 2010?

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Republicans didn't create the Social Security,Medicare Programs. The government takes peoples money by the force of a gun to pay for these programs which the people have no input in. They have no choice but to pay into them. Then how stupid it is to you to reply that people go and cash their checks and get their medication as if they are getting something free. What are they supposed to do, just pay into these programs all their life and then not use them? I tell you what. You just give up your S.S and Medicare that you have paid into all your life. Or am I wrong? You may be a moocher and don't pay anything into those programs.
What most people do not know that once a person starts getting a S.S. check almost $100.00 is deducted from that check to go towards Medicare that has been paid for all their life. Most people must also purchase supplemental Medicare Insurance at additional cost up to $400.00 a month. These programs are not Entitlements as people worked hard to put money into these programs for all their working lives. They payed for an Insurance policy to take care of them and now you and non thinking politicians want to call them Entitlements!
You have proven that you know nothing and all your B.S. is just that, B.S.
Waste of time trying to explain that to "UN" informed opinion. He just grabs at straws. Even if he "got it", he would never admit it. You know how libs are.

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Yes, If you notice the news media and the politicians always call Social Security and Medicare an Entitlement. They always lump them in with Medicade which is a program that just gives medical care and prescription aid to people free.
Politicians know people aren't very smart so they call them all entitlements. They want people to think that all the people drawing S.S. and Medicare are the same as Medicade recipients. That means there is no difference between the working class that has paid their dues,and the moochers.
Also the politicians and the news media NEVER mention welfare or food stamps. It is as it doesn't exist.
They are always saying "we have to do something about those Entitlements, Social Security, Medicare", and then also mention Medicade, but never welfare or food stamps.
They want to cut Social Security and Medicare, thinking people are stupid and think that they are just giveaway programs like Medicade, welfare, and food stamps. The politicians will probably never do anything about Social Security Disability fraud, Medicade, Welfare, and food stamps.
You can see where this is headed. Sc*ew the working man and woman and put the money out to the plantation moochers that are sure to vote for certain people. That seems to be the new way of life for the good old U.S.A.
The politicians know that if they mention S. S. and/or medicare cuts, it will cause an uproar. Scare tactics. Obama is the WORST about using those tactics. His uninformed supporters fall at his feet because they think that liar is saving them. All the while, he's teeing up with Tiger and Michelle is jetting off with girls and huge entourage to have fun. The libs are too clueless to even be mad.

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Waste of time trying to explain that to "UN" informed opinion. He just grabs at straws. Even if he "got it", he would never admit it. You know how libs are.
I didn't really put all these facts down for him. I am trying to educate some of the readers of Topix that do not really understand what is going on and the differences in the government programs. I am trying to let people see just how the politicians and the news media is trying to hoodwink us.

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Great post.
Why some people are so driven,(or masochistic), to appear to on the scene after Right Wingers have bled the country dry, to try to resuscitate the nation, knowing the same crew who financially raped the country will criticize and harass them until the country is rescued, at which point the Right Wingers get to financially rape the country again.
Clinton repaired the damage Reagan/Bush wrought;
Then Bush surrendered the country to his Right Wing bosses,and destroyed us again;
Now Obama is slowly repairing the devastation Bush wrought.
Amazingly, if and when Obama gets the country back to survival status,
The Right Wing will return to financially rape us all over again.
In regard to your last sentence, if the left wingers/Obama are going to do such a grand job, how in the world could a conservative EVER get back in office? According to you political geniuses, there will NEVER be a conservative president again. NEVER. So, is your last sentence another load of your made up stuff?

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news media are trying to hoodwink us.

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I would like to mention one other fact that I failed to mention. Social Security retirement checks are taxable. You very well may have to pay taxes on that money again. Think about that one. Just another fact that most people do not know.

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I didn't really put all these facts down for him. I am trying to educate some of the readers of Topix that do not really understand what is going on and the differences in the government programs. I am trying to let people see just how the politicians and the news media is trying to hoodwink us.
AND I appreciate you doing that.( IO is just a legend in his own mind.) Your posts are very informative. I am hoping that most , some?, a few? people can see through all that stuff by now. Over the past six or seven years, but particularly in the past four, I am hearing more and more people being fed up with politicians and the media. Personally, I think the credibility of the media has taken a HUGE hit in the past five years.
Both political parties are teeming with liars and self-serving power hungry do nothings. When people shout, "vote them out", I think most of us would LOVE to, but whom do we vote for??? They ALL seem to be alike.

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AND I appreciate you doing that.( IO is just a legend in his own mind.) Your posts are very informative. I am hoping that most , some?, a few? people can see through all that stuff by now. Over the past six or seven years, but particularly in the past four, I am hearing more and more people being fed up with politicians and the media. Personally, I think the credibility of the media has taken a HUGE hit in the past five years.
Both political parties are teeming with liars and self-serving power hungry do nothings. When people shout, "vote them out", I think most of us would LOVE to, but whom do we vote for??? They ALL seem to be alike.
Whom do we vote for? I really don't know. Possibly someone that the news media and the elite Republican and Democratic Party leader's hate. That would be a big clue.

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Whom do we vote for? I really don't know. Possibly someone that the news media and the elite Republican and Democratic Party leader's hate. That would be a big clue.
You know, you are most assuredly right about that. Interesting.
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<quoted text>You need to go hide yourself somewhere, maybe where you hid some eggs.
Just more hateful rhetoric that is put out by the Democratic Socialist Party. Never true, but it sounds good to the ignorant masses that vote Democratic. That is what they want to believe so that makes a lie into a truth.
Hey, don't be mad at me.

It was the Right Wing who here on Topix who labeled the Constitution of the United States, which reads:
"... to promote the general welfare".

Not me. If you want - be mad at Washington, Franklin, and Hamilton.

Those damn liberal Democrat Founding Fathers - included that damn liberal Democrat language in the Constitution.

Now that language clearly and unequivocally authorizes, and in fact demands, the very government programs that benefit the Right Wingers, who love to cash the government checks, and accept the thousands of benefits provided by the government, then hypocritically complain about paying for them.

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Hey, don't be mad at me.
It was the Right Wing who here on Topix who labeled the Constitution of the United States, which reads:
"... to promote the general welfare".
Not me. If you want - be mad at Washington, Franklin, and Hamilton.
Those damn liberal Democrat Founding Fathers - included that damn liberal Democrat language in the Constitution.
Now that language clearly and unequivocally authorizes, and in fact demands, the very government programs that benefit the Right Wingers, who love to cash the government checks, and accept the thousands of benefits provided by the government, then hypocritically complain about paying for them.
I'm not going into it again. Read the last three previous pages.
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<quoted text>Republicans didn't create the Social Security,Medicare Programs. The government takes peoples money by the force of a gun to pay for these programs which the people have no input in. They have no choice but to pay into them. Then how stupid it is to you to reply that people go and cash their checks and get their medication as if they are getting something free. What are they supposed to do, just pay into these programs all their life and then not use them? I tell you what. You just give up your S.S and Medicare that you have paid into all your life. Or am I wrong? You may be a moocher and don't pay anything into those programs.
What most people do not know that once a person starts getting a S.S. check almost $100.00 is deducted from that check to go towards Medicare that has been paid for all their life. Most people must also purchase supplemental Medicare Insurance at additional cost up to $400.00 a month. These programs are not Entitlements as people worked hard to put money into these programs for all their working lives. They payed for an Insurance policy to take care of them and now you and non thinking politicians want to call them Entitlements!
You have proven that you know nothing and all your B.S. is just that, B.S.
Perhaps someday you find in your busy schedule cashing the government checks we Moderates provide for you hypocritical parasitic Right Wingers to do done research on actuarial facts that demonstrate that Social Security recipients receive.

Earlier this week, we published a story and several charts showing that average government spending on each elderly person is $26,355, compared to $11,822 for each child. Almost immediately, readers wrote to condemn us for overlooking what they considered a key issue.

"Your statements as to expenditures on the elderly is specious at best, and at the least, completely misleading," said one representative letter. "As you point out, most of the government spending on the elderly are Social Security and Medicare payments. These are not payments, but ‘repayments’ of money that we have been forced to hand over to the government to fund a Ponzi scheme during our working lives. It is not expenditures on the elderly — it is a partial refund of money we have been forced to hand over."

As usual, rather than research before "opening mouth and inserting foot", or dropping trousers and "showing their ass", Right Wingers so both.

Here - as much as you'll try to ignore them, are the facts. I know they burn like acid, but that's only because the Right Wing brain under-developed brain is so unaccustomed to considering facts.

"The Urban Institute, a non-partisan research institute, produces statistics on this topic annually.

According to the institute’s data, a two-earner couple receiving an average wage —$44,600 per spouse in 2012 dollars — and turning 65 in 2010 would have paid $722,000 into the system.

If the couple had retired in 1980:

- they would have gotten back almost THREE TIMES what they put in;

- if they had retired in 1960, they would have gotten back more than EIGHT TIMES what they paid in.

A couple with only one spouse working (and receiving the same average wage) would have paid in $361,000 if they turned 65 in 2010:

- can expect to get back $854,000 — more than DOUBLE what they paid in.

- In 1980, this same 65-year-old couple would have received five times more than what they paid in:
- while in 1960, such a couple would have ended up with FOURTEEN TIMES what they put in.

Even allowing for inflation and investment gains, many seniors will receive much more in benefits than what they paid in"

I forgive you for the insult, because it helps prove that the "wronger" Right Wingers are - the more they insult the folks who actually know the facts.

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I'm not going into it again. Read the last three previous pages.
See what I mean? lol (They LOVE to use the Constitution to try and push their liberal giveaway agenda.)

I, along with the other conservatives on Topix, complain about the lack of checks and balances in regard to the moochers who take and don't give. Surely, even the hard working democrats get TIRED of paying for those who are able bodied, but just don't want to work and game the system for all it's worth.
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These facts are so dispositive they deserve to be repeated.

Now don't be mad at me if you don't line them - be mad at the fact that people lives longer than they did before and each year costs more than it did before.


"The Urban Institute, a non-partisan research institute, produces statistics on this topic annually.

According to the institute’s data, a two-earner couple receiving an average wage —$44,600 per spouse in 2012 dollars — and turning 65 in 2010 would have paid $722,000 into the system.

If the couple had retired in 1980:

- they would have gotten back almost THREE TIMES what they put in;

- if they had retired in 1960, they would have gotten back more than EIGHT TIMES what they paid in.

A couple with only one spouse working (and receiving the same average wage) would have paid in $361,000 if they turned 65 in 2010:

- can expect to get back $854,000 — more than DOUBLE what they paid in.

- In 1980, this same 65-year-old couple would have received five times more than what they paid in:
- while in 1960, such a couple would have ended up with FOURTEEN TIMES what they put in.

Even allowing for inflation and investment gains, many seniors will receive much more in benefits than what they paid in"
acts.
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Yes, If you notice the news media and the politicians always call Social Security and Medicare an Entitlement. They always lump them in with Medicade which is a program that just gives medical care and prescription aid to people free.
Politicians know people aren't very smart so they call them all entitlements. They want people to think that all the people drawing S.S. and Medicare are the same as Medicade recipients. That means there is no difference between the working class that has paid their dues,and the moochers.
Also the politicians and the news media NEVER mention welfare or food stamps. It is as it doesn't exist.
They are always saying "we have to do something about those Entitlements, Social Security, Medicare", and then also mention Medicade, but never welfare or food stamps.
They want to cut Social Security and Medicare, thinking people are stupid and think that they are just giveaway programs like Medicade, welfare, and food stamps. The politicians will probably never do anything about Social Security Disability fraud, Medicade, Welfare, and food stamps.
You can see where this is headed. Sc*ew the working man and woman and put the money out to the plantation moochers that are sure to vote for certain people. That seems to be the new way of life for the good old U.S.A.
good point about the diff between medicare and Medicaid.it is the same with ss and ssi.in many cases,someone who gets ssi and Medicaid are actually better off than someone who gets ss and medicare-even though they have contributed little,if anything,into the program.

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Perhaps someday you find in your busy schedule cashing the government checks we Moderates provide for you hypocritical parasitic Right Wingers to do done research on actuarial facts that demonstrate that Social Security recipients receive.
Earlier this week, we published a story and several charts showing that average government spending on each elderly person is $26,355, compared to $11,822 for each child. Almost immediately, readers wrote to condemn us for overlooking what they considered a key issue.
"Your statements as to expenditures on the elderly is specious at best, and at the least, completely misleading," said one representative letter. "As you point out, most of the government spending on the elderly are Social Security and Medicare payments. These are not payments, but ‘repayments’ of money that we have been forced to hand over to the government to fund a Ponzi scheme during our working lives. It is not expenditures on the elderly — it is a partial refund of money we have been forced to hand over."
As usual, rather than research before "opening mouth and inserting foot", or dropping trousers and "showing their ass", Right Wingers so both.
Here - as much as you'll try to ignore them, are the facts. I know they burn like acid, but that's only because the Right Wing brain under-developed brain is so unaccustomed to considering facts.
"The Urban Institute, a non-partisan research institute, produces statistics on this topic annually.
According to the institute’s data, a two-earner couple receiving an average wage —$44,600 per spouse in 2012 dollars — and turning 65 in 2010 would have paid $722,000 into the system.
If the couple had retired in 1980:
- they would have gotten back almost THREE TIMES what they put in;
- if they had retired in 1960, they would have gotten back more than EIGHT TIMES what they paid in.
A couple with only one spouse working (and receiving the same average wage) would have paid in $361,000 if they turned 65 in 2010:
- can expect to get back $854,000 — more than DOUBLE what they paid in.
- In 1980, this same 65-year-old couple would have received five times more than what they paid in:
- while in 1960, such a couple would have ended up with FOURTEEN TIMES what they put in.
Even allowing for inflation and investment gains, many seniors will receive much more in benefits than what they paid in"
I forgive you for the insult, because it helps prove that the "wronger" Right Wingers are - the more they insult the folks who actually know the facts.
Just how many people die and never collected a dime of what they paid in? How many die and only collect some of the money they put in? You know that Social Security can't be inherited don't you? How much money is actually being made on their deaths by Social Security? That could be considered interest. That is Never mentioned.
If all the money is being so over spent on seniors than how was there enough money for the government to borrow over two trillion dollars from the S.S. trust fund?
If there was not so much Social Security Disability fraud how much extra money would be left in the S.S. funds?
Do you expect to draw interest and take out more money from your 401k than you put in? Of course you do. Your savings account? Of course. Why should people have Social Security taken out of their paychecks for 48 years and not expect getting more back than they put in? Inflation over the years would actually have eaten up the pensioners money leaving them with nothing for the future. Otherwise they could have just put the money under the mattress drawing no interest at all? Better yet they could have invested that money or put it into some good mutual funds and be rich. Have you ever given these factors a thought? I think not.
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The Obama Dems have destroyed the country. We need a republican congress to stop the march to socialism.
Yep,

The Republicans weren't able to burn the whole house all the way to the ground last time.

Let's buy them some gasoline, some matches, and let the children finish burning the house to the ground.

- Bush's doubling of the national debt;

- Bush's turning a budget surplus into a $1.4 Trillion Dollar annual budget deficit;

- Bush's starting three wars and hiding their costs "off budget" leaving and actual deficit over $2 Trillion Dollars higher than even admitted;

- Bush signing the bill creating Medicare Part D - costing $1.4 Trillion Dollars without funding a dime if the costs;

- Bush's leaving us the Greatest Recession since the 30s;

- Bush's leaving thousands dead under the World Trade Center;

- Bush's causing thousands of Marines to come home in body bags, and tens of thousands wounded, injured and disabled;

Yep that's be good.

Just cash your Social Security check, visit the doctor using your Medicare; pick up a couple thousand dollars in medicine using Medicare Part D, visit your public hospital, or library, or go boating on your government lakes, or go camping in your government forests,

Then whine about how bad this socialism thing is.

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Just cash your Social Security check, visit the doctor using your Medicare; pick up a couple thousand dollars in medicine using Medicare Part D, visit your public hospital, or library, or go boating on your government lakes, or go camping in your government forests,
Then whine about how bad this socialism thing is.
I will not give you the satisfaction of even answering the majority of the first and most part of your asinine statement.
Yes, Retired people should use the Democratcs social programs, they paid for them in taxes by taken from them by force.
As far as going camping, fishing boating, hunting why the need for the government to own all this land? The government owns 650 million acres of land art this time. That makes up 29% of the total United States.Why do they need all this land? People were just as happy hunting and camping when the government didn't own it. I don't thing the bears or birds care who owns the land. The government must always have a so called reason to buy up or confiscate more and more land. "It's for the people to use, or we are saving a plant, animal, or something to save the earth".
Who really needs it?
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Yep,
The Republicans weren't able to burn the whole house all the way to the ground last time.
Let's buy them some gasoline, some matches, and let the children finish burning the house to the ground.
- Bush's doubling of the national debt;
- Bush's turning a budget surplus into a $1.4 Trillion Dollar annual budget deficit;
- Bush's starting three wars and hiding their costs "off budget" leaving and actual deficit over $2 Trillion Dollars higher than even admitted;
- Bush signing the bill creating Medicare Part D - costing $1.4 Trillion Dollars without funding a dime if the costs;
- Bush's leaving us the Greatest Recession since the 30s;
- Bush's leaving thousands dead under the World Trade Center;
- Bush's causing thousands of Marines to come home in body bags, and tens of thousands wounded, injured and disabled;
Yep that's be good.
Just cash your Social Security check, visit the doctor using your Medicare; pick up a couple thousand dollars in medicine using Medicare Part D, visit your public hospital, or library, or go boating on your government lakes, or go camping in your government forests,
Then whine about how bad this socialism thing is.
ur not real smart r u? u appear 2 be stupid.
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Waste of time trying to explain that to "UN" informed opinion. He just grabs at straws. Even if he "got it", he would never admit it. You know how libs are.
hey, don't be using my name when referring 2 that dumbazz clown!

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