Is Organo Gold legit or a scam?
Elaine

Hurst, TX

#556 Apr 25, 2013
La Nina wrote:
Hmmm...i'm actually looking at a pack and im wondering if this is the right decision to make to join or not to join? the whole thing sounds too good to be true, you cannot compare organo gold to MLM companies like Avon, Marykay or Tupperware, its not the same those companies are well established they are like an open book no hidden agenda, but organo gold, i need to be convinced that it is really good. pls i would like to hear comments on the pros and cons on this product before jumping the band wagon
Well, I have a friend who has been with MaryKay for 4 years and has not had any kind of structural support, has to go door to door, and after 4 years has not ranked a position in the company. Honestly compared to what she had to pay with that company OG is a much better deal to start a business. Don't get me wrong, all companies are good and legit but its the momentum and people that made money with these companies have had the positive results.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#557 Apr 25, 2013
It's sad you idiots can't promote the actual product, all you talk about making a dollar. If you could buy the product on the shelves, nobody would ever buy it, it's junk.

“Marketing 44 Yrs of Excellence”

Since: Apr 10

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#558 Apr 27, 2013
Elaine wrote:
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Well, I have a friend who has been with MaryKay for 4 years and has not had any kind of structural support, has to go door to door, and after 4 years has not ranked a position in the company. Honestly compared to what she had to pay with that company OG is a much better deal to start a business. Don't get me wrong, all companies are good and legit but its the momentum and people that made money with these companies have had the positive results.
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Note the following statement:
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"Don't get me wrong, all companies are good and legit..." and it doesn't matter what you follow with this naivity in the form of an absurd comment...It just proves that you are exactly what P.T. Barnum predicted.
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Before you get REALLY mad at my frank discussion of this topic, consider the fact that in order for you to succeed in this, SOMEONE HAS TO BE REAMED!!!!
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How can you live with yourself if the person you ream is the person with health issues, who reaches out to this to solve their concommitant ECONOMIC issues and ends up DEAD AND BROKE?
Tina Pembroke Pines

Hollywood, FL

#560 Apr 29, 2013
I have been with OG for 3 months, I bought the gold package and in one month I made my profit back double in retail sales. I got my package on time, I got my two people my two people got theirs on and on. You have to work for this company.You have to follow the steps. And it will work. Most people join and wait for the money. Its a job you have to work, its part time for me, so I work 20 hours a week on my part time job. Before I bring anybody in the business I tell them what it going to take to make it in this business, left them know this is what it takes to make it. r they up for it.
Will

Philadelphia, PA

#561 Apr 29, 2013
Avon, Marykay, Tupperware, Herbalife and many other companies were once new, as Organo Gold is now. If you start with a company that has recently begun operating (from 2008), you will grow with it. Of course you have to work and put effort in it. If people complain because they didn't succeeded is not because the company is a scam or does not work, it is because the person didn't do it the way it must be done. Here is a link for you to see how OG is doing and what kind of momentum the company has.
http://www.10incomes.com/page/mlm-500-momentu...
Will

Philadelphia, PA

#562 Apr 29, 2013
Ricardo, besides being offensive, you are ignorant!!!

“Marketing 44 Yrs of Excellence”

Since: Apr 10

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#563 Apr 29, 2013
Dear "Pembroke Pines" and "Will"

It's not a matter of whether it works for you if you are feeding off the many for whom it does not work.

Pyramid Schemes, as is this one, all work that way. FIFO.

First In, First OUT!

That means that while you are being fed, someone new is feeding you.

That only lasts for a while as the law of diminishing returns will assure the loss of your money.

The longer you are in, the more money you will invest in larger and larger increments.

Before the structure collapses, actually implodes, upon the weak and weary, and finally envelopes and devours you at a "higher level" than the most recent investors,(and this could go on for years while the topmost cream their percentages off each transaction, or get really greedy and take it all to the Cayman's as has occurred in cases where prosecution did not intercept the chief fraudsters,) you will start to notice that your checks are late, or even absent, and that's when it is too late to get out.

Look, if Bernie Madoff were Bernard Chua...Oh, right,... he is!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#564 Apr 29, 2013
Tina Pembroke Pines wrote:
I have been with OG for 3 months, I bought the gold package and in one month I made my profit back double in retail sales. I got my package on time, I got my two people my two people got theirs on and on. You have to work for this company.You have to follow the steps. And it will work. Most people join and wait for the money. Its a job you have to work, its part time for me, so I work 20 hours a week on my part time job. Before I bring anybody in the business I tell them what it going to take to make it in this business, left them know this is what it takes to make it. r they up for it.
Do you even know the shit you are peddling? Your product ruins lives, it's junk. You are lower then a street dealer.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#565 Apr 29, 2013
Will wrote:
Ricardo, besides being offensive, you are ignorant!!!
Then why does nobody promote the actual instant coffee? You all talk about how much dollar you make, that's it. The product sucks! Most of you don't have a clue what the ingredients are.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#566 Apr 29, 2013
Will wrote:
Avon, Marykay, Tupperware, Herbalife and many other companies were once new, as Organo Gold is now. If you start with a company that has recently begun operating (from 2008), you will grow with it. Of course you have to work and put effort in it. If people complain because they didn't succeeded is not because the company is a scam or does not work, it is because the person didn't do it the way it must be done. Here is a link for you to see how OG is doing and what kind of momentum the company has.
http://www.10incomes.com/page/mlm-500-momentu...
FAKE website from another scammer.
Lol

Spring, TX

#568 Apr 30, 2013
Its funny yall mention this. I see a bunch of a people looking for the OG office at the Galeria in Houston. They ask me for directions. According to all this I should give them the wrong directions. Now I feel bad telling them where it is.
RichardYoung

Hillsdale, Australia

#569 May 1, 2013
I am in Australia - found out about OG for the very first time today. I read many of the posts. I am thoroughly confused and scared about this opportunity....
Some one please help!

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#570 May 1, 2013
RichardYoung wrote:
I am in Australia - found out about OG for the very first time today. I read many of the posts. I am thoroughly confused and scared about this opportunity....
Some one please help!
You can make a buck in almost any MLM company. The question should be if you want to support a product that is junk like this instant coffee is. As you noticed from reading the comments none of the pro instant coffee posters know much of anything about the actual product, they list no ingredients, they list no warning labels, for example this mushroom is dangerous for pregnant mothers and then you have to ask why can't i drink good fresh coffee from beans and then if i want the mushroom, take it on the side?

“Marketing 44 Yrs of Excellence”

Since: Apr 10

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#571 May 1, 2013
MLM PAYS wrote:
I'M A 25 Y/O Male With A 7 To 5 Job Working Five Days A Week. I Got Started With This Company 18 Days Ago And I Have Already Made Back 200% Off My $500 Investment. WithIn My First 24Hrs I Had Earned $242 That's 50% Of My Investment Without Even Bring In The Company A Whole Two Days!!! I Understand Why People Would Ignorantly Say That This Is A Scam And Its Because Those People Are Comparing It To Some Of Those Other Companies Where People Get Paid With No Exchange Of Product. Pyramid Scam And Pyramid Scheme Are Two Different Things. A Scheme Without Negative Connotation Is By Definition A (Plan). And I'm Making Money Using This Pyramid Plan It Has Not Even Been A Month Yet.“Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.”-- Albert Einstein
Contact Me AT [email protected] I'll Teach You How To Make This Money!!!
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Illinois State MLM Law
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The following is applicable legislation in Illinois State:
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Every state has adopted laws regulating MLM companies. Although much enforcement activity has come from the federal government through the FTC, SEC and U.S. Postal Service, the vast majority of enforcement activity has occurred at the state level.
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The Turner programs were prosecuted substantially www.mlmlegal.com under securities laws and various consumer fraud laws. Along the way, most states adopted various forms of anti-pyramid legislation. Although generally targeting the same type of activity, state MLM legislation has taken its form as pyramid statutes, endless chain scheme statutes, lottery statutes, sales referral laws and, most recently, multilevel distribution statutes.
Pyramid Statutes/Endless Chain Schemes Statutes.
Most state regulation of MLM companies comes under the auspices of pyramid statutes and endless chain scheme statutes. The language in these statutes is often quite similar. The comparison of two of these type statutes illustrates this point. For instance, compare California's endless chain statute with Oregon's pyramid law.
California Endless Chain Statute, California Penal Code '327:
"'327. Endless chain schemes
"Every person who contrives, prepares, sets up, proposes, operates any endless chain is guilty of a misdemeanor. As used in this section, an 'endless chain' means any scheme for the disposal or distribution of property whereby a participant pays a valuable consideration for the chance to receive compensation for introducing one or more additional persons into participation in the scheme or for the chance to receive compensation when a person introduced by the participant introduces a new participant. Compensation, as used in this section, does not mean or include payment based upon sales made to persons who are not participants in the scheme and who are not purchasing in order to participate in the scheme."

“Marketing 44 Yrs of Excellence”

Since: Apr 10

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#572 May 1, 2013
Oregon Pyramid Statute:
"pyramid club" means a sales device whereby a person, upon condition that the person make an investment, is granted a license or right to solicit or recruit for economic gain one or more additional persons who are also granted such license or right upon condition of making an investment and who may further perpetuate the chain of persons who are granted such license or right upon such condition. "Pyramid club" also includes any such sales device which does not involve the sale or distribution of any real estate, goods or services, including but not limited to a chain letter scheme. A limitation as to the number of persons who may participate, or the presence of additional conditions affecting www.mlmlegal.com eligibility for such license or right to recruit or solicit or the receipt of economic gain therefrom, does not change the identity of the scheme as a pyramid club. As used herein "investment" means any acquisition, for a consideration other than personal services, of property, tangible or intangible, and includes without limitation, franchises, business opportunities and services. It does not include sales demonstration equipment and materials furnished at cost for use in making sales and not for resale."
As a general matter, the pyramid and endless chain statutes prohibit the payment of a consideration for the right to recruit others for economic gain where the compensation is unrelated to the sale of products or services. This language is very ambiguous and has resulted in legions of cases, many inconsistent in outcome. The ambiguity of the statutes has also led to selective and inconsistent enforcement policies.
Two operative terms "consideration" and "compensation unrelated to sales" are often looked at as follows. A prohibited consideration is generally referring to:(1) an actual monetary fee for the right to engage in the multilevel business,(2) inflated product prices in which the excess product price is viewed as a prohibited consideration,(3) front-loading or inventorying of product in which excessive product purchases are viewed as prohibited consideration for the requirement that individuals make an initial investment of product purchased to engage in the opportunity,(5) where it appears that people are only buying product in order to "buy into the deal," and (6) many statutes, although not all statutes, exempt from the term "prohibited consideration," the purchase of an at cost sales kit or demonstration materials.
The receipt of compensation unrelated to sales typically references:(1) payment of actual headhunting fees for finding other recruits,(2) a program in which sponsors make all of their compensation from override commissions from loading recruits with unnecessary product,(3) a program in which there is no evidence of sales outside the network of distributors.
The following is applicable legislation in Illinois State:
ILLINOIS
Illinois consumer protection law defines a "pyramid sales scheme" as: "any plan or operation whereby a person, in exchange for money or other thing of value, acquires the opportunity to receive a benefit or thing of value, which is primarily based upon the inducement of additional persons, by himself or others, regardless of number, to participate in the same plan or operation
and is not primarily contingent on the volume or quantity of goods, services, or other property sold or distributed or to be sold or distributed to persons for purposes of resale to consumers." Illinois Compiled Statutes Ch. 121 ½, Par. 262A. Pyramid schemes also violate the Illinois Consumer Fraud and Deceptive Business Practices Act which is enforced by the Consumer Fraud Bureau of the Office of the Illinois Attorney General. The law allows the Attorney General to ask the court to impose a civil penalty in the amount of $50,000 per violation.

“Marketing 44 Yrs of Excellence”

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#573 May 1, 2013
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Now, I see your "scheme" v "scam" argument and I raise you the LAW!
Paul

UK

#575 May 4, 2013
I live in the UK, can anyone tell me if you're only allowed to purchase the bronze package only. I was told that I cannot purchase the gold package and that I must start with bronze,

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#576 May 4, 2013
People that sell Organo Gold are selling nothing more then an exaggeration. It normally attracts marketing and mortgage fraud people that are used to selling an exaggeration. I hope the lawsuits pile on and this company is shut down, you people selling it are lower then street dealers.
Informed

United States

#577 May 6, 2013
Many of these comments are completely ignorant. Amway? A scam? Are you stupid or just too lazy to do your research? I have looked at many MLM, amway of which, is the oldest (over 50yrs old now, partnered with big names like Sears, best buy, bass pro shop, and over 500 others.... I am not a distributor, so no, I'm not giving you a bias opinion, their business structure as with any MLM, including OGold, works, out works for those business minded, self disciplined 2%, I'm not exaggerating, 2%, of people, so when those other 98% fail, they trash talkall MLM's . Chances are, if you fail at one you will fail at most of them. My advice, MLM,, works, find a product you believe in, or do it the way I did, and open your own business doing something else, because why waste your life working for someone else's dream at a job.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#578 May 6, 2013
Informed wrote:
My advice, MLM,, works, find a product you believe in, or do it the way I did, and open your own business doing something else, because why waste your life working for someone else's dream at a job.
Working at a MLM career you are still working for someone, fool! The difference between Amway and Organo Gold is the fact that Amway sells various products, most of which you can buy at a store. Organo Gold sells just instant coffee with chemicals and a mushroom with a big exaggeration backing it. The mushroom is very dangerous. Everyone is looking for a fast buck. Unfortunately, these same people try multi-level companies and fail. In the process of trying mlm companies, they lose money. These same people who need additional income often lose a significant amount of money trying to sell multi-level marketing company products. Some basic facts about MLM: Your friends shy away from you.
Multi-level marketing products are not unique.

Multi-level marketing companies are often trying to sell to you not your customer.

Those successful in multi-level marketing companies usually stick with it long term.

When you join a multi-level marketing company you become a salesman (or sales-woman).

Successful products sell due to established trust. MLM companies often request you betray this trust.

MLM companies often attempt to "trick" representatives into regularly buying their product with the promise these representatives will be able to sell their product as a result. If you or your friends underneath you do not sell the product, trust is distorted. Good companies successfully sell product because they establish and maintain trust with their customers. Multi-level marketing companies often ask you to request your friends to buy product they otherwise would not purchase by asking them to make a monthly commitment to purchase or become a representative. No established business does well if the initial trust is betrayed with their customers.

Attempting a multi-level marketing opportunity could cost you friends and money!

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