Who do you support for U.S. Senate in...
Where

Cleveland, GA

#20026 Jul 27, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't President Eisenhower warn America about the Defense industry?
Yes, he did and no one paid attention.
Where

Cleveland, GA

#20027 Jul 27, 2013
OMTE wrote:
This explains alot. I know I'm guilty.
Watch this sh*t. It's crazy. LoL. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =I79wUEqBdQcXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

We have a few here on topix. lol

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#20028 Jul 27, 2013
OMTE wrote:
This explains alot. I know I'm guilty.
Watch this sh*t. It's crazy. LoL. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =I79wUEqBdQcXX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Perfect examples of the uninformed liberal voter.
Where

Cleveland, GA

#20029 Jul 27, 2013
HAARP wrote:
An overview of the ELF, GWEN towers, and HAARP inter-connection.
http://www.bariumblues.com/em_mind%20control....


Hey Dave, you said
"I dare say if you get to investigating electromagnetic ELF waves that you will find things that you never thought could exist."

I went and read the link of this post and it's far out. I hope this is not what you meant.

Then again, it might explain some of Obama supporters minds being controlled.



Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#20030 Jul 27, 2013
HAARP wrote:
An overview of the ELF, GWEN towers, and HAARP inter-connection.
http://www.bariumblues.com/em_mind%20control....
Way too much, way too fast, as the people will think you are a nut.
Where

Cleveland, GA

#20031 Jul 27, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Way too much, way too fast, as the people will think you are a nut.

Naw, I got better sense. However I did read up on the GWEN system and it scares the devil out of me. Everyone should be afraid of this system run by our own military.
Where

Cleveland, GA

#20032 Jul 27, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Way too much, way too fast, as the people will think you are a nut.

Sorry, thought you were referring to me.
Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#20033 Jul 27, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>IO is the craziest person I have ever come across on any forum, anywhere. He is so obssessed with Bush, that he doesn't care if Obama destroys our country. He is only interested in letting the world know what Bush did. He doesn't care that is all he's got to defend that muslim trash in the White House. I've never seen anything like it in my life. I've agreed with him several times about Bush, only to be labeled a RWW, when I try and get him to see the things Obama is doing, are just as bad and in my opinion worse. I know and alot of people know what Bush did wrong. I don't understand the constant repeating of the same thing over and over again. Do you think he wants our country to fall? Do you think that he believes that because of the mistakes made by Bush, that Obama has a free pass to do anything he wants, against the will of the people? I just don't understand his point at all. It's impossible to even get a straight answer out of him, ever. I have grown to really dislike him and I wish he'd just get off of here if he can't even have a normal conversation with anyone. He's really pathetic and annoying.(IMO)
Now, now... Its not about me, it's about the country.

I actually share a lot of your beliefs, but by claiming outrage over Obama, and satisfaction with his predecessor - when both are engaged in exactly the same things - destroys the legitimacy of the argument.

If you attack one, you have to attack the other; otherwise, the attack on Obama simply loses credibility.

By identifying, through objective data, that her is no substantial policy difference between the two, except perhaps Bush shredded the Constitution with the power of the Far Right, and Obama shreds the Constitution with the power of the moderates and liberals.

When its actually the policies that are attacked, instead of the person, credibility soars.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#20034 Jul 27, 2013
Where wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Dave, you said
"I dare say if you get to investigating electromagnetic ELF waves that you will find things that you never thought could exist."
I went and read the link of this post and it's far out. I hope this is not what you meant.
Then again, it might explain some of Obama supporters minds being controlled.
I know it sounds crazy but the Russians have been, since the 1950s, and now lately the U.S. Government have been experimenting with using ELF waves on human brains. They want the military use of mind control. If it wasn't feasible they wouldn't have keep on experimenting with it for so many years.
As crazy as it sounds The function of the human brain waves can be altered by ELF waves from 3HZ to 30HZ.
There are a lot of conspiracy web sites that will say anything but you can go to legitimate scientific sites and gain a lot of knowledge. Believe this. There is a lot more going on with electromagnetic devices than you would like to believe. I will not discuss this subject any further with anyone on the web.
Informed Opinion

Naples, FL

#20035 Jul 27, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't President Eisenhower warn America about the Defense industry?
Public Papers of the Presidents, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1960, p. 1035- 1040

My fellow Americans:

Three days from now, after half a century in the service of our country, I shall lay down the responsibilities of office as, in traditional and solemn ceremony, the authority of the Presidency is vested in my successor.

This evening I come to you with a message of leave-taking and farewell, and to share a few final thoughts with you, my countrymen.

.... This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

... We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

... Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#20036 Jul 27, 2013
Where wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, thought you were referring to me.
No I was replying to Mr. Haarp. But the more you learn the more afraid you will become. Most people just have no idea of how far technology has come. I have found out that people will scoff at anything they are afraid of or do not understand. You have only uncovered the very tip of a huge iceberg.
Informed Opinion

Fort Myers, FL

#20037 Jul 27, 2013
Where wrote:
<quoted text>The reason I wonder is if there is one, we could run IO through it and erase all his faulty memory and start anew.
Of course the humming might leave him deaf.
Wait, he's already deaf.
Still waiting for any rebuttal to the facts presented.

But of course that will never come.

Still waiting for three major policy differences between Obama the Hated and Bush the Beloved.

But of course that will never come.

Still waiting for emphasis on important policies, instead of silly insignificant complaints.

But of course that will never come.

So.. We can only relax and enjoy the scenery, knowing that none will ever occur.
Informed Opinion

Fort Myers, FL

#20038 Jul 27, 2013
THE NEW YORKER
search

July 11, 2013
TEXAS WEIGHS BAN ON WOMEN

POSTED BY ANDY BOROWITZ

AUSTIN (The Borowitz Report)—Republican lawmakers in the Texas State Senate are proposing a precedent-setting new bill that would make it illegal for women to live in the state.

Senator Harland Dorrinson, one of the many pro-life lawmakers backing the woman ban, crafted his bill after witnessing Senator Wendy Davis filibuster an anti-abortion bill last month.

“That was our moment to say,‘Enough is enough,’” he said.“This comes down to a choice between life and women, and we choose life.”

Senator Dorrinson said his bill would call for a twenty-foot woman-proof fence to be constructed along the borders of the state.

“Women are great at talking, but not at climbing,” he observed.

But another G.O.P. state senator, Cal Jamson, believes that the total ban on women goes “too far” and is proposing a less draconian bill that would allow some women to remain in the state as guest workers.

“Texas needs women to cook, clean, and cheerlead,” he said.“If they show that they can do those things and stay out of politics, there could be a pathway to citizenship.”
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#20039 Jul 27, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Now, now... Its not about me, it's about the country.
I actually share a lot of your beliefs, but by claiming outrage over Obama, and satisfaction with his predecessor - when both are engaged in exactly the same things - destroys the legitimacy of the argument.
If you attack one, you have to attack the other; otherwise, the attack on Obama simply loses credibility.
By identifying, through objective data, that her is no substantial policy difference between the two, except perhaps Bush shredded the Constitution with the power of the Far Right, and Obama shreds the Constitution with the power of the moderates and liberals.
When its actually the policies that are attacked, instead of the person, credibility soars.
Bush or Obama is does not matter. This has to stop. Enough is Enough. People like this don't know what Bush done and This will never be a Islam nation. We have to fix it for them.

“Registered Conservative”

Since: Jul 11

Dahlonega, GA

#20040 Jul 27, 2013
Isnt that what its supposed to be,We, the people? he added.Over the past few years youve seen this growingPeople are getting sick and tired of federal power.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/states-...

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#20041 Jul 27, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try.
Do they routinely do frontal lobotomies on Right Wing Planet, or are you actually so insipidly ignorant as to believe your own post.
I say... Right Wing Wacko Bush arranged to fly the family of the terrorists safely out of American air space.
You say .. Your a liar !!!
I post the portions of the interview with the Saudi ambassador who confirms that RWW Bush did just that.
and
I also post the interview with one of the participants who worked with the FBI, the White House, and local police, to do just that.
You see, on Planet Earth that means you owe me an apology because I made you eat your words.
You look foolish and uninformed.
Worse, you look ignorant because after all this time you still haven't grasped that everything fact I post is documented.
Now stop appearing more foolish than you need to be, and just accept your error, apologize and move on.
....
And I won't bother prove the silliness of attacking the facts that the last two Right Wing Wacko Presidents respectively tripled, and doubled the deficit.
Oh, we are all so impressed the ambassador spoke in such loving terms about bin Ladens close friend and business partners, Bush and Cheney, who had just protected the family of the terrorists who blew up the WTC
(deleted for space)
No liar here, but your story seems to be undergoing revision, like a good little Democrat.
Let's look again at your most egregious claim (from post #19962)- you say Bush allowed the bin Ladens to blow up the WWC and supplied a military escort out of the country. There are three problems in that one premise:
1. How did Bush ALLOW the WWC to be blown up? The word allow implies direct knowledge of with no intent to stop an action- and your evidence of this is....?
2. bin Ladens (plural)- No - one individual within the bin Laden family, from which he is estranged, orchestrated a terroristic plot. Where is your evidence that other members of the family living in the US were involved. As stated they were supervised and questioned by the FBI, no evidence was found that could justify holding them and they were allowed to get on the Saudi chartered planes home.
3. No "military jet escort" out of the US was involved, as you claimed there was. Unger's main claim in the entire article is that the Saudis were allowed to leave before the airports were reopened - that is false. So the rest of his article is worthless.
===
You really need to give up on this. The only one looking foolish and uninformed is you. Get over Bush. He hasn't been in office for over 4 years. And let's look at our national fiscal position again. You love to talk about the deficit and ignore the national debt. However, most economists will tell you that the debt figure is the better indicator of the nation's fiscal health.

"The debt affects the deficit in three ways. First, the debt actually gives a better indication of the true deficit each year. You can more accurately gauge the deficit by comparing each year's debt to last year's debt. That's because the budget deficit, as reported in each year's budget, does not include the amount owed to the Social Security Fund. However, this is a debt that will need to be repaid one day, and so the amount borrowed from it is a more accurate description of each year's government liabilities than the reported budget deficit.(Source: St. Louise Federal Reserve, Deficit, Debts and Trust Funds, August 2006)"

So let's look at the actual debt. It grew under Bush $4.9 trillion in his 8 years in office - we fiscal conservatives were appalled at that, of course, we had no idea what was coming under Obama. In the first 4 years alone of Obama's presidency that debt has grown another $6 trillion. That's a 50% higher increase in the national debt in half the time period. And you consider that something to brag about, really???

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#20042 Jul 27, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try.
Do they routinely do frontal lobotomies on Right Wing Planet, or are you actually so insipidly ignorant as to believe your own post.
I say... Right Wing Wacko Bush arranged to fly the family of the terrorists safely out of American air space.
You say .. Your a liar !!!
I post the portions of the interview with the Saudi ambassador who confirms that RWW Bush did just that.
and
I also post the interview with one of the participants who worked with the FBI, the White House, and local police, to do just that.
You see, on Planet Earth that means you owe me an apology because I made you eat your words.
You look foolish and uninformed.
Worse, you look ignorant because after all this time you still haven't grasped that everything fact I post is documented.
Now stop appearing more foolish than you need to be, and just accept your error, apologize and move on.
....
And I won't bother prove the silliness of attacking the facts that the last two Right Wing Wacko Presidents respectively tripled, and doubled the deficit.
Oh, we are all so impressed the ambassador spoke in such loving terms about bin Ladens close friend and business partners, Bush and Cheney, who had just protected the family of the terrorists who blew up the WTC
(deleted for space)
No liar here, but your story seems to be undergoing revision, like a good little Democrat.
Let's look again at your most egregious claim (from post #19962)- you say Bush allowed the bin Ladens to blow up the WWC and supplied a military escort out of the country. There are three problems in that one premise:
1. How did Bush ALLOW the WWC to be blown up? The word allow implies direct knowledge of with no intent to stop an action- and your evidence of this is....?
2. bin Ladens (plural)- No - one individual within the bin Laden family, from which he is estranged, orchestrated a terroristic plot. Where is your evidence that other members of the family living in the US were involved. As stated they were supervised and questioned by the FBI, no evidence was found that could justify holding them and they were allowed to get on the Saudi chartered planes home.
3. No "military jet escort" out of the US was involved, as you claimed there was. Unger's main claim in the entire article is that the Saudis were allowed to leave before the airports were reopened - that is false. So the rest of his article is worthless.
====
You really need to give up on this. The only one looking foolish and uninformed is you. Get over Bush. He hasn't been in office for over 4 years. And let's look at our national fiscal position again. You love to talk about the deficit and ignore the national debt. However, most economists will tell you that the debt figure is the better indicator of the nation's fiscal health.

"The debt affects the deficit in three ways. First, the debt actually gives a better indication of the true deficit each year. You can more accurately gauge the deficit by comparing each year's debt to last year's debt. That's because the budget deficit, as reported in each year's budget, does not include the amount owed to the Social Security Fund. However, this is a debt that will need to be repaid one day, and so the amount borrowed from it is a more accurate description of each year's government liabilities than the reported budget deficit.(Source: St. Louise Federal Reserve, Deficit, Debts and Trust Funds, August 2006)"

So let's look at the actual debt. It grew under Bush $4.9 trillion in his 8 years in office - we fiscal conservatives were appalled at that, of course, we had no idea what was coming under Obama. In the first 4 years alone of Obama's presidency that debt has grown another $6 trillion. That's a 50% higher increase in the national debt in half the time period. And you consider that something to brag about, really???
Where

Cleveland, GA

#20043 Jul 27, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
No liar here, but your story seems to be undergoing revision, like a good little Democrat.
Let's look again at your most egregious claim (from post #19962)- you say Bush allowed the bin Ladens to blow up the WWC and supplied a military escort out of the country. There are three problems in that one premise:
1. How did Bush ALLOW the WWC to be blown up? The word allow implies direct knowledge of with no intent to stop an action- and your evidence of this is....?
2. bin Ladens (plural)- No - one individual within the bin Laden family, from which he is estranged, orchestrated a terroristic plot. Where is your evidence that other members of the family living in the US were involved. As stated they were supervised and questioned by the FBI, no evidence was found that could justify holding them and they were allowed to get on the Saudi chartered planes home.
3. No "military jet escort" out of the US was involved, as you claimed there was. Unger's main claim in the entire article is that the Saudis were allowed to leave before the airports were reopened - that is false. So the rest of his article is worthless.
===
You really need to give up on this. The only one looking foolish and uninformed is you. Get over Bush. He hasn't been in office for over 4 years. And let's look at our national fiscal position again. You love to talk about the deficit and ignore the national debt. However, most economists will tell you that the debt figure is the better indicator of the nation's fiscal health.
"The debt affects the deficit in three ways. First, the debt actually gives a better indication of the true deficit each year. You can more accurately gauge the deficit by comparing each year's debt to last year's debt. That's because the budget deficit, as reported in each year's budget, does not include the amount owed to the Social Security Fund. However, this is a debt that will need to be repaid one day, and so the amount borrowed from it is a more accurate description of each year's government liabilities than the reported budget deficit.(Source: St. Louise Federal Reserve, Deficit, Debts and Trust Funds, August 2006)"
So let's look at the actual debt. It grew under Bush $4.9 trillion in his 8 years in office - we fiscal conservatives were appalled at that, of course, we had no idea what was coming under Obama. In the first 4 years alone of Obama's presidency that debt has grown another $6 trillion. That's a 50% higher increase in the national debt in half the time period. And you consider that something to brag about, really???

No sensible person believes him. A few might lean toward him, but not because they believe him, it's because he is a libroid like themselves, so they let him go on with his merry little stories that everyone knows is fabricated or so twisted that even he has trouble keeping his story straight.


Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#20044 Jul 27, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Still waiting for any rebuttal to the facts presented.
But of course that will never come.
Still waiting for three major policy differences between Obama the Hated and Bush the Beloved.
But of course that will never come.
Still waiting for emphasis on important policies, instead of silly insignificant complaints.
But of course that will never come.
So.. We can only relax and enjoy the scenery, knowing that none will ever occur.
You don't consider Obamacare an important policy? You don't consider immigration reform (amnesty) an important policy? Well that explains a lot.

How are you coping with the internal conflict you must be experiencing now that your beloved unions are coming out against your equally beloved Obamacare provisions - you must be sporting quite a headache.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#20045 Jul 27, 2013
My apologies for the double post, my internet connection glitched and I thought I lost the first one.

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