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You would know...
Apparently you've finished up on those straw men for the garden.
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Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics
By NICHOLAS CONFESSORE and MICHAEL LUO
Published: May 26, 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/us/politics...

When CVFC, a conservative veterans’ group in California, applied for tax-exempt status with the Internal Revenue Service, its biggest expenditure that year was several thousand dollars in radio ads backing a Republican candidate for Congress.

The Wetumpka Tea Party, from Alabama, sponsored training for a get-out-the-vote initiative dedicated to the “defeat of President Barack Obama” while the I.R.S. was weighing its application.

And the head of the Ohio Liberty Coalition, whose application languished with the I.R.S. for more than two years, sent out e-mails to members about Mitt Romney campaign events and organized members to distribute Mr. Romney’s presidential campaign literature.

Representatives of these organizations have cried foul in recent weeks about their treatment by the I.R.S., saying they were among dozens of conservative groups unfairly targeted by the agency, harassed with inappropriate questionnaires and put off for months or years as the agency delayed decisions on their applications.

But a close examination of these groups and others reveals an array of election activities that tax experts and former I.R.S. officials said would provide a legitimate basis for flagging them for closer review.

“Money is not the only thing that matters,” said Donald B. Tobin, a former lawyer with the Justice Department’s tax division who is a law professor at Ohio State University.“While some of the I.R.S. questions may have been overbroad, you can look at some of these groups and understand why these questions were being asked.”

The stakes are high for both the I.R.S. and lawmakers in Congress, whose election fortunes next year will hinge in no small part on a flood of political spending by such advocacy groups. They are often favored by strategists and donors not for the tax benefits — they typically do not have significant income subject to tax — but because they do not have to reveal their donors, allowing them to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into elections without disclosing where the money came from.

The I.R.S. is already separately reviewing roughly 300 tax-exempt groups that may have engaged in improper campaign activity in past years, according to agency planning documents. Some election lawyers said they believed a wave of lawsuits against the I.R.S. and intensifying Congressional criticism of its handling of applications were intended in part to derail those audits, giving political nonprofit organizations a freer hand during the 2014 campaign.....

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Oh my wrote:
Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics
By NICHOLAS CONFESSORE and MICHAEL LUO
Published: May 26, 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/us/politics...
When CVFC, a conservative veterans’ group in California, applied for tax-exempt status with the Internal Revenue Service, its biggest expenditure that year was several thousand dollars in radio ads backing a Republican candidate for Congress.
The Wetumpka Tea Party, from Alabama, sponsored training for a get-out-the-vote initiative dedicated to the “defeat of President Barack Obama” while the I.R.S. was weighing its application.
And the head of the Ohio Liberty Coalition, whose application languished with the I.R.S. for more than two years, sent out e-mails to members about Mitt Romney campaign events and organized members to distribute Mr. Romney’s presidential campaign literature.
Representatives of these organizations have cried foul in recent weeks about their treatment by the I.R.S., saying they were among dozens of conservative groups unfairly targeted by the agency, harassed with inappropriate questionnaires and put off for months or years as the agency delayed decisions on their applications.
But a close examination of these groups and others reveals an array of election activities that tax experts and former I.R.S. officials said would provide a legitimate basis for flagging them for closer review.
“Money is not the only thing that matters,” said Donald B. Tobin, a former lawyer with the Justice Department’s tax division who is a law professor at Ohio State University.“While some of the I.R.S. questions may have been overbroad, you can look at some of these groups and understand why these questions were being asked.”
The stakes are high for both the I.R.S. and lawmakers in Congress, whose election fortunes next year will hinge in no small part on a flood of political spending by such advocacy groups. They are often favored by strategists and donors not for the tax benefits — they typically do not have significant income subject to tax — but because they do not have to reveal their donors, allowing them to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into elections without disclosing where the money came from.
The I.R.S. is already separately reviewing roughly 300 tax-exempt groups that may have engaged in improper campaign activity in past years, according to agency planning documents. Some election lawyers said they believed a wave of lawsuits against the I.R.S. and intensifying Congressional criticism of its handling of applications were intended in part to derail those audits, giving political nonprofit organizations a freer hand during the 2014 campaign.....
Go ahead and defend those criminals. Your party will be next. You'll wet your pants then.

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Oh my wrote:
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Apparently you've finished up on those straw men for the garden.
ur wife probably helped him.
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Bill in Dville wrote:
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clueless and uneducated
I'm not even going to say it.
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Oh my wrote:
Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on
The Wetumpka Tea Party, from Alabama,
Hey, Wetumpka - that's where Bill was assistant manager at the H&R Block. I've heard rumors he was Employee of the Month once and got a special parking place (allegedly).

Apparently the lot-painting was done by a non-union worker, which would have somewhat marred the occasion, but nobody noticed.

http://thomasmarkzuniga.com/wp-content/upload...

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ChicknButt wrote:
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Apparently the lot-painting was done by a non-union worker, which would have somewhat marred the occasion, but nobody noticed.
http://thomasmarkzuniga.com/wp-content/upload...
Nah, it was painted by the union white paint asphalt painter and he couldn't find the union dictionary holder and the union speller said she couldn't look up the spelling while the union dictionary holder was on break - it was against union rules.
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Synergy wrote:
<quoted text>California is such a mess. Don't think I'll judge by their results. On a personal level, I am already feeling the sting. My friends are as well.
Again, that was an opinion. I bet someone else could use California as an example and write an article with opposite results. Heck! Even a dem said it was going to be a mess. Of course, he has been kicked out of the smoke and mirrors club now. Play that fiddle, Grasshopper.
Ironically, you maintain your ability to be wrong 98.437 % of the time.

Kicking Right Wing Wackos out if office has solved the problem.

California, without RWWs destroying everything they touch, has dragged itself out if the RWW quagmire, and now enjoys a budget surplus.

Just like Clinton creates a surplus after Ronnie Ray-Gun exploded the deficit;

and

just as Obama has ready cut Bush's $1.4 Trillion Dollar deficit in half;

now

Jerry Brown has brought California back to fiscal health from the Right Wing Wacko induced disasters.

Right Wingers:

- create huge deficits;
- destroy economies;
- damage lives; and
- make profits on the disasters they create;
- then bitch when normal Americans rush in and save the day.

Right Wingers - like small puppies, they're cute, fun to watch, and always leave piles of crap when grown ups aren't around to smack them with a newspaper.

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On the topic of unions, took about 5 minutes to find the following:

"With this latest act of physical aggression, SEIU escalated its campaign against registered nurses"
"A recently retired member of United Auto Workers Local 235, Dianne Feeley, suffered a head wound after being knocked to the ground by SEIU International staff and local members. Other conference-goers--members of the Teamsters, UAW, UNITE HERE, International Longshoremen's Association, and SEIU itself--were punched, kicked, shoved, and pushed to the floor."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-burger/...

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"Members of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) protested at entrances to the Los Angeles International Airport on Wednesday — the biggest travel day of the year — delaying people trying to spend time with their families and leading to a dozen arrests.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/21/dozen-arres...

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“As far as the union, they keep intimidating us. They keep pushing us to go with them, but we are not part of them. We don’t want to do anything with them,” worker Martin Storm told CBS2’s Kara Finnstrom.“We are actually getting paid a lot better, and I have better health insurance than I did with the union.”

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/11/21/som...
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Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>"It turns my blood cold to see how many Communists we have on this tiny little board."

Betcha thought it was illegal be a commie, a muslim, or gay.
It's always fun when the Right Wing Wackos:

- Complain about Muslims in a country founded on religious freedom;

- Complain about sexual orientation in a country that boasts of "personal freedoms"; and

- Complain about "commies", while slurping up every "commie" government check and benefit possible.

It's like they don't even have the words "hypocrisy" or "irrational" on their planet.

Maybe someday, their planet will be so similar to our that communication with them will be possible.
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Death Panel wrote:
<quoted text>Don't I know it. Got a longtime friend out there in the medical business. Doctor works mainly with the elderly.
In the last 9 or so months, he's laid off his assistant, cut the hours of everyone else and had to stop paying holidays, just to make ends meet.
Medicare was already a mess and it was a months long fight just to get 70% of his patients bills paid. Oh the headaches ahead.

My friend doesn't think she'll have a job much longer :(
And now you're complaining that your friend can't get enough money from the taxpayers to keep her from needing a real job ?

Isn't she just another liberal, socialist commies scumbag living off our taxes ?

Shouldn't we just let them old people die anyway ?

Isn't Medicare the epitome of Liberal, Socialist, Commie, programs ?

If you haven't saved enough to pay for your own medical care in your elderly years, whose fault is that ?

Why should our kids pay taxes to keep old people alive ?

Isn't that stealing from them to gives medical care to a bunch of dependent socialist commies ?

Damn... First you Right Wingers complain about the liberal socialist commie programs - Medicare being the clearest example,

Then you complain the liberal socialist commie programs don't pay enough to keep your doctor buddies in the Bentleys, and their staffs driving Mercedes.

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ChicknButt wrote:
Red States turning Blue...

2014 will be a real eye-opener for the Republicans. Even Mitch McConnell is going to be in for a tough race:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/28/kent...

In an ADC poll taken on 5/27 59% of Red States have a "good chance" to flip in 2014. The comments by Jerry Dornett of Tennessee reflected many respondents opinions: "I'm tired of my state being poorly run. It's obvious at this point that the Republicans are lost, clueless, confused and supporters of big-business, not the middle-class workers. While I've been a Republican my entire life before this, I'm sick of what they represent now."
I can't imagine many "Red" states will turn "Blue".

Blue states actually pay more in taxes than they slurp up in federal funds,

and

there just ain't no way those Right Wingers will ever pay taxes or cut back on their socialist dependency.

Damn... They're like Maynard G. Krebbs when Dobie Gillis suggests Maynard get a job:

"Work !" - Oh noooooooo - Not Work !"

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Oh my wrote:
Groups Targeted by I.R.S. Tested Rules on Politics
By NICHOLAS CONFESSORE and MICHAEL LUO
Published: May 26, 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/us/politics...
In keeping with your post, I am sure you are simply appalled at the following:

"According to BusinessWeek, the SEIU spent $85 million to help elect Democrats in 2008."
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"This kind of spending, which is on the rise, has enabled the largest unions to maintain and in some cases increase their clout in Washington and state capitals, even though unionized workers make up a declining share of the workforce.

The hours spent by union employees working on political matters were equivalent in 2010 to a shadow army much larger than President Barack Obama's current re-election staff, data analyzed by the Journal show."

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“Big Labor, especially its public employee union component, is by far the most powerful, most generous lobby in America.” To combat this corruption, he recommends America prohibits public employee unions from donating money to politics, or better yet, prohibit public employees’ unions altogether. That seems to be a drastic step to prevent all that generous union money going to support Democratic candidates.

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"Unions have poured millions of dues-payers’ dollars into the campaigns of Pennsylvania politicians who pass and preserve laws favoring unions, and who approve pay and benefits - especially pensions - for public service employee union members which have impoverished municipalities, school districts, counties and the Commonwealth. And politicians in both major parties receive union money." Jerry Shenk

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And finally, in regard to public sector unions, two quotes from Franklin D Roosevelt:
"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.".....

"Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable."
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On the topic of unions, took about 5 minutes to find the following:

"With this latest act of physical aggression, SEIU escalated its campaign against registered nurses"
"A recently retired member of United Auto Workers Local 235, Dianne Feeley, suffered a head wound after being knocked to the ground by SEIU International staff and local members. Other conference-goers--members of the Teamsters, UAW, UNITE HERE, International Longshoremen's Association, and SEIU itself--were punched, kicked, shoved, and pushed to the floor."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deborah-burger/...

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"Members of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) protested at entrances to the Los Angeles International Airport on Wednesday — the biggest travel day of the year — delaying people trying to spend time with their families and leading to a dozen arrests.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/21/dozen-arres...

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“As far as the union, they keep intimidating us. They keep pushing us to go with them, but we are not part of them. We don’t want to do anything with them,” worker Martin Storm told CBS2’s Kara Finnstrom.“We are actually getting paid a lot better, and I have better health insurance than I did with the union.”

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/11/21/som...
Scabs,
Liars, and
Parasites.

Hey, they could be Right Wing Politicians !
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Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

Abraham Lincoln
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Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>In keeping with your post, I am sure you are simply appalled at the following:

"According to BusinessWeek, the SEIU spent $85 million to help elect Democrats in 2008."
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"This kind of spending, which is on the rise, has enabled the largest unions to maintain and in some cases increase their clout in Washington and state capitals, even though unionized workers make up a declining share of the workforce.

The hours spent by union employees working on political matters were equivalent in 2010 to a shadow army much larger than President Barack Obama's current re-election staff, data analyzed by the Journal show."

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“Big Labor, especially its public employee union component, is by far the most powerful, most generous lobby in America.” To combat this corruption, he recommends America prohibits public employee unions from donating money to politics, or better yet, prohibit public employees’ unions altogether. That seems to be a drastic step to prevent all that generous union money going to support Democratic candidates.

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"Unions have poured millions of dues-payersÂ’ dollars into the campaigns of Pennsylvania politicians who pass and preserve laws favoring unions, and who approve pay and benefits - especially pensions - for public service employee union members which have impoverished municipalities, school districts, counties and the Commonwealth. And politicians in both major parties receive union money." Jerry Shenk

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And finally, in regard to public sector unions, two quotes from Franklin D Roosevelt:
"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.".....

"Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable."
Business Week ?

Isn't that owned by a Billionaire named Bloomberg ?

Do you think the editorializing by a Billionaire Republican about Democratic contributors might be just a little bit biased ?

Is this the same Billionaire politician who alone spent $250 Million Dollars buying the New York mayors position ?

The same Billionaire politician who spent 13X more than his opponent ?

We're all shocked ! shocked !

that Billionaire Politician Bloomberg says those damn unions,
are bad,
even though they spent less money,
all together,
combined,
for the entire country,
than he did
just running for mayor.

(Can you say "hypocritical Right Wing Wacko?)

How ironically stupid is Bloomberg's complaint ?

How dare millions of Americans spend less to support politicians than he alone spends on electing himself.

Those bastards !!!

Don't they know only Billionaires get to support politicians - especially themselves.
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"The only effective answer to organized greed is organized labor."

Thomas Donahue

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Informed Opinion wrote:
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Ironically, you maintain your ability to be wrong 98.437 % of the time.
Kicking Right Wing Wackos out if office has solved the problem.
California, without RWWs destroying everything they touch, has dragged itself out if the RWW quagmire, and now enjoys a budget surplus.
Just like Clinton creates a surplus after Ronnie Ray-Gun exploded the deficit;
and
just as Obama has ready cut Bush's $1.4 Trillion Dollar deficit in half;
now
Jerry Brown has brought California back to fiscal health from the Right Wing Wacko induced disasters.
Right Wingers:
- create huge deficits;
- destroy economies;
- damage lives; and
- make profits on the disasters they create;
- then bitch when normal Americans rush in and save the day.
Right Wingers - like small puppies, they're cute, fun to watch, and always leave piles of crap when grown ups aren't around to smack them with a newspaper.
It is astounding how someone can become as insane as you are. You'll believe absolutely anything.

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ChicknButt wrote:
"The only effective answer to organized greed is organized labor."
Thomas Donahue
So, you belong to a union?

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Informed Opinion wrote:
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Business Week ?
Isn't that owned by a Billionaire named Bloomberg ?
Do you think the editorializing by a Billionaire Republican about Democratic contributors might be just a little bit biased ?
Is this the same Billionaire politician who alone spent $250 Million Dollars buying the New York mayors position ?
The same Billionaire politician who spent 13X more than his opponent ?
We're all shocked ! shocked !
that Billionaire Politician Bloomberg says those damn unions,
are bad,
even though they spent less money,
all together,
combined,
for the entire country,
than he did
just running for mayor.
(Can you say "hypocritical Right Wing Wacko?)
How ironically stupid is Bloomberg's complaint ?
How dare millions of Americans spend less to support politicians than he alone spends on electing himself.
Those bastards !!!
Don't they know only Billionaires get to support politicians - especially themselves.
Perhaps I didn't differentiate quotes as well as I should have. Only the very first sentence was from Business Week.
The rest are from various articles. But how do you like this story from the Daily Beast - that should be Left wing enough for you.

"a union official who openly boasted in a story...:“We don’t like to brag,” but “we’re the big dog” when it comes to campaign funding.
Big as in $87.5 million. Big as in the biggest spender of any outside group—all meant to protect the interests of unions, the new “ privileged class.” But wait a minute: Team O led us to believe that honor went to the vilified U.S. Chamber of Commerce and all of its alleged contributions from “ foreign money” sponsors
Campaign spending by labor unions makes a mockery of President Obama's bogus boogie-man scare tactics about supposed shadowy foreign interests.(Louis Lanzano / AP Photo)

A record $87.5 million has been spent by one union, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, to elect Democrats. Paid not by voluntary contribution from its members, but by forced union dues from workers—who are paid by taxpayers."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/10...

And I notice you completely ignored FDR's quotes, I'll repeat them just for you.

"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.".....

"Since their own services have to do with the functioning of the Government, a strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to prevent or obstruct the operations of Government until their demands are satisfied. Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government by those who have sworn to support it, is unthinkable and intolerable."

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