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ChicknButt wrote:
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LOL, I'm looking forward to hearing you defend that the world is 6,000 years old, that Bush isn't the primary cause of the deficit, that citizen welfare programs are a bigger problem than corporate welfare, all about how cutting taxes does anything other than make the rich richer, how trickle-down economics is beneficial to the middle-class, how climate change doesn't exist, and how deregulating big-business is just GREAT for the country. I'm also really looking forward to hearing about what a GREAT job our Republican-led House of Representatives is doing.
I AM really looking forward to this.:) It should be entertaining.
We want you to defend
-that we have 58 states.
-Obama having a democrat congress for his first two years and did nothing. Now whines.(like you)
-more people on government assistence now.
-higher debt in just four and a half years instead of being cut in half.(as promised)
-soldiers still dying in the Middle East.
-rich Democrats getting a pass.(when guilty of the same thing as the rich Republicans.)
-why Obama hasn't gotten a budget passed in four and a half years.(Can't get anything pass the Democrats.)
Shall I go on?
Tonight will be fun!!!!

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Informed Opinion wrote:
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Ah.... Another Right Wing Wacko with "Union Envy".
RWWs, because they don't have the courage and convictions necessary to organize and fight for their families' welfare, prefer to beg from their corporate masters like serfs to their feudal kings.
They are so jealous of union members enjoying higher wages, better benefits, nice pensions and job security, they just don't have the intestinal fortitude to fight for their rights. Serfdom is their lot in life.
Union membership is down because the corporate masters and their Right Wing Wackos serfs have joined forced to create "Right to Starve States".
Now the Right Wing Wackos get to starve.
We union members will continue to enjoy our decent wages, pensions, and benefits.
I just skimmed this, but UNION ENVY????? Glad to see you managed to maintain your sense of humor. Yeah, we ALL want to be thought of as THUGS. I truly am laughing.
Your last sentence.....you aren't enjoying them like you used to and it will get worse.
The bullying is coming to a close.

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Informed Opinion wrote:
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Wow - a Right Wing Wacko almost authored a comment that addressed the facts.
No .... Wait .... He didn't.
No surprise there.
RWWs just hate those pesky things called "facts" normal folks think are so important on Planet Earth.
Pot...Kettle....

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Informed Opinion wrote:
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Damn.. I'm sorry for you. Cheney and Halliburton must have made you go insane.
Cheney's Halliburton Made $39.5 Billion on Iraq War
By Angelo Young, International Business Times
20 March 13
The accounting of the financial cost of the nearly decade-long Iraq War will go on for years, but a recent analysis has shed light on the companies that made money off the war by providing support services as the privatization of what were former U.S. military operations rose to unprecedented levels.
Ten contractors received 52 percent of the funds, according to an analysis by the Financial Times that was published Tuesday.
The No. 1 recipient?
Houston-based energy-focused engineering and construction firm KBR, Inc.(NYSE:KBR), which was spun off from its parent, oilfield services provider Halliburton Co.(NYSE:HAL), in 2007.
The company was given $39.5 billion in Iraq-related contracts over the past decade, with many of the deals given without any bidding from competing firms, such as a $568-million contract renewal in 2010 to provide housing, meals, water and bathroom services to soldiers, a deal that led to a Justice Department lawsuit over alleged kickbacks, as reported by Bloomberg.
According to the bipartisan Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan, the level of corruption by defense contractors may be as high as $60 billion. Disciplined soldiers that would traditionally do many of the tasks are commissioned by private and publicly listed companies.
You are missing the point. I read your first couple of sentences although I really didn't need to.
See...you paragons of virtue are supposed to be ABOVE such behavior. You are ALL HYPOCRITES. It is absolutely HILARIOUS. You give yourself passes, but you are guilty, guilty, guilty. THAT is why no one takes you guys seriously. Posers. HYPOCRITES.

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You must want to imprison Cheney:
1992
Halliburton subsidiary Brown & Root is paid $9 million by the Pentagon (under Cheney's direction as Secretary of Defense) to produce a classified report detailing how private companies (like itself) could provide logistical support for American troops
The Pentagon awards Brown & Root a five-year contract to provide logistics for the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers.
The GAO estimates that through this contract, Brown & Root makes overall $2.2 billion in revenue in the Balkans.2
1995
Without any previous business experience, Cheney leaves the Department of Defense to become the CEO of Halliburton Co.
Halliburton moves up from 73rd to 18th on the Pentagon's list of top contractors.
The company garners $2.3 billion in U.S. government contracts, which almost doubles the $1.2 billion it earned from the government previously.
under Cheney's leadership the company also receives $1.5 billion worth of assistance from government-sponsored agencies such as OPIC (Overseas Private Investment Corporation) and the Export-Import Bank.
1997
March: The Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC), a U.S. government agency, helps Halliburton by providing "political risk insurance" worth up to $200 insurance.
The GAO (General Accounting Office), the auditing arm of Congress, reports that KBR overbilled the Army for costs associated with its work in Kosovo. It is revealed that the firm charged nearly $86 per sheet for plywood that it bought for $14.06.14 .
1998
Cheney oversees Halliburton's merger with Dresser Industries, one of the companies that helped Saddam Hussein rebuild Iraq's oil infrastructure after the First Gulf War, despite economic sanctions against Iraq.
1999
Halliburton's KBR division is re-hired by the military, after being fired in 1997, for a $180 million a year contract to supply U.S. forces in the Balkans with logistical support.
2000
August: Halliburton announces that it is giving Cheney a retirement package worth more than $33.7 million.
2001
KBR wins a $300-million exclusive contract to supply logistics to the Navy, providing services like cooking, construction, power generation and fuel transportation.
December: Kellogg, Brown & Root secures a 10-year deal with the Pentagon with no cost ceiling to provide support services to the Army.
2002
February: Kellogg, Brown & Root pays out $2 million to settle a lawsuit with the Justice Department, which alleged that the company defrauded the government.
The GAO launches lawsuits against Cheney because he refuses to turn over to Congress documents that reveal the identities of industry executives involved in the National Energy Strategy.
Brown and Root is awarded a $22 million deal to run support services at a military camp in Uzbekistan.
It is revealed that while Vice President Cheney was Halliburton, subsidiaries (Halliburton Products and Services Ltd.), incorporated in the Caiman Islands, is used since 2000 to get around sanctions on doing business in Iran.
At the same time, Halliburton's federal taxes dropped dramatically from $302 million in 1998 to an $85 million rebate in 1999.42
Despite these revelations, the company continues to be awarded massive government contracts, including a new 10-year deal with the Army with no lid on potential costs.
In the year 2002 alone, Brown & Root received $1.3 billion for services to the U.S. government.
November: Brown & Root begins a one-year contract, estimated at $42.5 million, to cover services for troops at bases in Bagram and Kandahar, Afghanistan.51
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lol You are hilarious. Again, the point just whizzes over your head. OR You have no defense. No passes for the left wing loonies. HYPOCRITES. NO CRED.
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Why do Liberals always say "Oh wait"?

Why are Liberals o obsessed with Halliburton?

Why do Liberals always separate Americans into groups?

Why are Liberals so ugly?

Why do Liberals continue to support Obama when he ha failed so miserably?

Why is it ok for Liberals to become rich but it's not ok for Republicans?

Why is it ok for Liberals to take advantage of the tax code to lessen their tax burden, but, it's not ok for Republicans?

Why are Liberals so obsessed with Fox News? Have they ever actually watched it, or, are they just following Obama's lead?

Why are Liberals such snobs?

Why don't Liberal women shave and wear make-up once in awhile?

Just wondering.

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Am I the only one that skips Informed Opinions long ass cut and paste posts?

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Union envy.
That's rich! I used to live in a heavily unionized state. You should see what the unions have done to it.
It's a cesspool as are all unions states. Why do these people keep jumping their sinking ships and bring their politics down here?
Why?
ChicknButt

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Synergy wrote:
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lol You'll see. I've no doubt of that.
Nobody noticed that you didn't answer the question. Just a generalized "itsa comin'! Doom is comin'!" .
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lol Good try. You voted for a failure......TWICE. Obama is so ineffective. Some Democrats don't even want to work with him.
Nobody noticed that you bypassed answering in logical terms and went straight into an anti-obama rant with no foundation.

Nope. Nobody noticed at all.

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I say, you broke it, you own it.
ChicknButt

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Synergy wrote:
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Your first sentence sounds exactly like you left wing loonies.
lol Not even a good try. Can't deny it.
Nobody noticed that you just said:

"I know you are but what am I?"

Nope. Nobody noticed.
ChicknButt

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Synergy wrote:
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lol Good try. You voted for a failure......TWICE. Obama is so ineffective. Some Democrats don't even want to work with him.
LOL! Whatever.

By the way, have you noticed how many Republicans (and everybody else) are completely sick of Ted Cruz?

McCain even had to finally give this moron a smack-down.

http://news.yahoo.com/john-mccain-latest-seni...

Texas Republicans - the dumbest, loudest people on the planet.
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Synergy wrote:
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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
-Obama having a democrat congress for his first two years and did nothing. Now whines.(like you)
Tell us all you know about the 60-vote majority required to move anything in the Senate, start there and you'll answer your own question.
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Synergy wrote:
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We want you to defend
-that we have 58 states.
Nobody thinks Obama doesn't know how many states there are. He misspoke. It means nothing. Only an idiot would think you can attach any significance to that.
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-Obama having a democrat congress for his first two years and did nothing. Now whines.(like you)
Reformed health care, millions more insured than before, womens rights, all kinds of things. Go back to the list I've posted directly to you at least 18 times when asking about what happened in those two years.

Compared to what the Republicans have accomplished since then it seems infinite. The only thing they have on their list is voting to repeal PPACA 37 times and tanking the nations credit rating. That's it.
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-more people on government assistence now.
-higher debt in just four and a half years instead of being cut in half.(as promised)
-soldiers still dying in the Middle East.
Bush tanked economy - which is reason for 1 & 2. Bush put the soldiers in the Middle East (for reasons no one can explain except Haliburton) which accounts for #3. But once we've changed the stability factors in the region the adults have to keep troops there until a fully responsible pull-out can be achieved.
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-rich Democrats getting a pass.(when guilty of the same thing as the rich Republicans.)
Now you're being petty and silly.
Synergy wrote:
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-why Obama hasn't gotten a budget passed in four and a half years.(Can't get anything pass the Democrats.)
If you live on sound-bites and slogans that might sound like something to gloat over. If you look at what actually is happens on the floor and the real political process like an educated adult would, it means nothing.

What else you got? Anything that actually reflects the real world?
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Bored wrote:
@ Conservatives.
After posting in this thread for months, itís obvious the gap between Conservatives and Liberals is so huge it will never be bridged. We here on topix are just a micronism of what we see on the national level and in our elected officials.
I have also found by being involved on topix, I have become more or less obsessive/compulsive in posting so I have decided to take a hiatus from topix for the moral good of my soul. When one becomes so absorbed in politics where it affects oneís moral compass, the effort is not worth it. My life does NOT revolve around politics; I just get sucked into it occasionally.
I have great faith in conservative principles as they have stood the test of time, not so the liberal principles.
Iím giving a top ten list of conservative principles along with a top ten list of liberal principles.
And finally Iím giving a top ten list of philosophical principles.
Maybe some of you can discern some similarity in these principles, maybe not.
Conservative principles::
Web link:
http://www.kirkcenter.org/index.php/detail/te...
First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order.
Second, the conservative adheres to custom, convention, and continuity.
Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription.
Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence.
Fifth, conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety.
Sixth, conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability.
Seventh, conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked.
Eighth, conservatives uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism.
Ninth, the conservative perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions.
Tenth, the thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society.
Liberal principles, note some of these principles have changed to day due to socialist influence::
Web link;;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/geoffrey-r-ston...
1. Liberals believe individuals should doubt their own truths and consider fairly and open-mindedly the truths of others.
2. Liberals believe individuals should be tolerant and respectful of difference.
3. Liberals believe individuals have both a right and a responsibility to participate in public debate.
4. Liberals believe "we the people" are the governors and not the subjects of government, and that government must treat each person with that in mind.
5. Liberals believe government must respect and affirmatively safeguard the liberty, equality and dignity of each individual.
6. Liberals believe government has a fundamental responsibility to help those who are less fortunate.
7. Liberals believe government should never act on the basis of sectarian faith.
8. Liberals believe courts have a special responsibility to protect individual liberties.
9. Liberals believe government must protect the safety and security of the people, for without such protection liberalism is impossible.
10. Liberals believe government must protect the safety and security of the people, without unnecessarily sacrificing constitutional values.
Philosophical principles::
Web link;;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/artic...
1. THE HARM PRINCIPLE
2. THE PRINCIPLE OF SUFFICIENT REASON
3. THE MEAN
4. THE FALSIFICATION PRINCIPLE
5. OUGHT IMPLIES CAN
6. THE PRINCIPLE OF EVIDENCE
7. THE PRINCIPLE OF CHARITY
8. THE DIFFERENCE PRINCIPLE
9. JUST WAR
10. OCCAM'S RAZOR
To the conservatives on topix, stand fast and live by your principles.
To the liberals, good riddance.
Yes, Take a Break, Take a long long break!
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OK All those who are not republicans our biggest battle lies ahead! We need to defeat the most dangerous among us (republicans). When someone brings up Haliburton they turn a deaf ear, they are obsessed in involving our country in all kinds of wars around the world but to hell with spending on much needed projects here at home. THEY are truly the most destructive dangerous misguided, self deceived FOOLS our great country has ever had to deal with. As Winston Churchill said of the Nazis" We will fight them in the streets, the countryside, and our shores. Never give in nor never give up fighting America's Public Enemy Number 1. From this point onward there can be no compromise with these mentally disturbed idiots who are bound and determined to take all of us down with them!
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To republicans everywhere, Moore Okla. 90% republican spider web, very disrespectful of the president. Your town has been devastated but this president will help you. If bush or romney were in office and this town was 90% democrat they would take their sweet time standing around the camera eating sandwiches while thousands suffered uneedlessly(like New Orleans). Now this should be a wakeup call to hardcore repubs(the worst of the worst). 33% of voters are republican and but 25% are incorrigible hardcore. So 1 out of 4 people you see in public are infected with the worst disease possible. Republicans showed no mercy when they were in office for 8 years and now none will be shown to them.
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Synergy wrote:
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lol You are hilarious. Again, the point just whizzes over your head. OR You have no defense. No passes for the left wing loonies. HYPOCRITES. NO CRED.
Informed Opinion, you did the best you could explaining the truth to this very disturbed confused angry woman but unfortunately there is no hope trying to reason with these kind of republicans. The positive side is that her and many like her are now in the minority of the voting population!

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ChicknButt wrote:
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Want to fix that? How about voting for a Congress that doesn't block every single attempt to move the country ahead?...
LMAO.

I guess this poster has a different idea of "moving the country ahead" than people with a clue...

Jus' Sayin'

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ChicknButt wrote:
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Again, you find yourself working with false prejudicial preconceived notions rather than common sense and reality.
That leads to a lot of anger, incorrect assumptions, and illogical statements on your part.
You've heard the old saying? Garbage in--->>> Garbage out ?
That's what's wrong with a lot of RWW's. They're just poorly informed before they ever even START trying to think.
I'm wondering if the irony of this post was lost on anyone...

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