Bored

Dahlonega, GA

#8072 Apr 28, 2013
46 Senators Willing To Subjugate 2nd Amendment To U.N. Doctrine.

On April 2, the U.N. passed the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) by a 153-4 vote, with the U.S. voting in favor. President Obama is expected to sign the ATT on June 3, but it will not be binding on Americans because the Senate, which must approve the ratification of the treaty, rejected it by a vote of 53 to 46. Every vote in favor of the treaty in the Senate came from a Democrat or an independent. A few Democrats voted with Republicans.

The Senate did this at 3 a.m. on March 23, after Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) introduced an amendment to the budget to keep the U.S from entering the ATT.

As Breitbart News has reported, the ATT is a clear threat to gun markets and the 2nd Amendment.

Here are the 46 Senator who voted opposed the effort to keep the U.S. out of the ATT, thereby subjugating the 2nd Amendment to U.N. Doctrine: Baldwin (D-WI), Baucus (D-MT), Bennet (D-CO), Blumenthal (D-CT), Boxer (D-CA), Brown (D-OH), Cantwell (D-WA), Cardin (D-MD), Carper (D-DE), Casey (D-PA), Coons (D-DE), Cowan (D-MA), Durbin (D-IL), Feinstein (D-CA), Franken (D-MN), Gillibrand (D-NY), Harkin (D-IA), Hirono (D-HI), Johnson (D-SD), Kaine (D-VA), King (I-ME), Klobuchar (D-MN), Landrieu (D-LA), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), McKaskill (D-MO), Menendez (D-NJ), Merkley (D-OR), Mikulski (D-MD), Murphy (D-CT), Murray (D-WA), Nelson (D-FL), Reed (D-RI), Reid (D-NV), Rockefeller (D-WV), Sanders (I-VT), Schatz (D-HI), Schumer (D-NY), Shaheen (D-NH), Stabenow (D-MI), Udall (D-CO), Warner (D-VA), Warren (D-MA), Whitehouse (D-RI), Wyden (D-OR).

Once Obama signs the treaty, it can be called up for future Senate votes to accept or reject a resolution of ratification. It will require two-thirds of Senate votes to succeed in ratification.

Bored

Dahlonega, GA

#8073 Apr 28, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
Just a few of the many new articles that will back my previous statements about Global Warming. I am surprised that someone didn't challenge me to show links. I guess by now you know that I can and will.
http://www.co2science.org/about/position/glob...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...
Uh-Bigdave. That's not the kind of evidence libtards look for, they are more into the feely, touchy kind of things, like their ownselves.


Bored

Dahlonega, GA

#8074 Apr 28, 2013
"According to a new report by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Institute (GAI), President Barack Obama has spent over twice as many hours on vacation and golf (976 hours) as he has in economic meetings of any kind (474.4 hours).

The report,“Presidential Calendar: A Time-Based Analysis,” used the official White House calendar, Politico’s comprehensive presidential calendar, and media reports through March 31, 2013 to calculate its results."


And libtards still blame Bush.
Bored

Dahlonega, GA

#8075 Apr 28, 2013
"According to a new report by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Institute (GAI), President Barack Obama has spent over twice as many hours on vacation and golf (976 hours) as he has in economic meetings of any kind (474.4 hours).

The report,“Presidential Calendar: A Time-Based Analysis,” used the official White House calendar, Politico’s comprehensive presidential calendar, and media reports through March 31, 2013 to calculate its results."

And that's just 3.6% of his total work time. This shows Obama has no interest in the economy.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#8076 Apr 28, 2013
Bored wrote:
"According to a new report by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Institute (GAI), President Barack Obama has spent over twice as many hours on vacation and golf (976 hours) as he has in economic meetings of any kind (474.4 hours).
The report,“Presidential Calendar: A Time-Based Analysis,” used the official White House calendar, Politico’s comprehensive presidential calendar, and media reports through March 31, 2013 to calculate its results."
And that's just 3.6% of his total work time. This shows Obama has no interest in the economy.
One could only presume he's better at golf (certainly not hoops if the recent approx. 2 of 23 or whatever would suggest) than he is the presidential duties...

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#8077 Apr 28, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh-Bigdave. That's not the kind of evidence libtards look for, they are more into the feely, touchy kind of things, like their ownselves.
My bad. I should have thought of that. I should have looked through the Huffington Post and seen if they had something.

Since: Jul 12

Villa Rica, GA

#8078 Apr 28, 2013
What gives with the news medias non-stop coverage of the Boston bombing. Do you think that they do not want to talk about the economy, immigration, or gun control?
I am guessing that they don't want to talk about the sellout immigration bill that is going to legitimize about 35 million illegal aliens. Just how will ObamaCare handle another 33 million people on top of the 40 plus million people that they are going to insure? I know the Dems. say that isn't going to happen but we all know that is just another Dem. lie. They must include all these people into the healthcare plan if they want to keep their votes. Most of these people will vote democratic anyway so it is setting up another huge voting block for the Socialist Democratic Party. If all this happens there will be no more Republican Party or Republican candidates. You will have only the Socialist Party running everything in the country.
Republicans know this, and that is why they are moving so far left. It won't matter as as hard as they try to be democrats in republican clothing they will not get the votes. Neither the conservatives or the socialist will vote for them.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#8079 Apr 28, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>Ga Tech fight song ""(I'm a) Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech."

IO's fight song "With my Head tucked Between my Legs."
Oh.... We're back to Right Wing Wackos childishness.

And you wonder why adults just can't take you all seriously.

Who know, maybe those "Depends" we taxpayers buy for you got bunched up and shut down the blood flow to your brain, or the medications we taxpayers but for you just aren't working today, or that Socialist Security we taxpayers provide you just doesn't seem to go far enough.

In any event, I've had a great day, perfect weather, worked with several neighbors installing new windows on the house down the road for a really good guy, we had hamburgers on the grill, and cold beer afterwards, and now relaxing in the spa, with a bourbon and a good cigar, while the kids float in the pool watching a movie on TV.

I hope yours was good too.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#8080 Apr 28, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>My take on Campbell's work is not so much that we feel the need to invent God, but that we are constantly struggling to find a set of meaningful symbols with which to converse on that which transcends all symbols. These symbols change thru history but the topic of discussion has always remained the same, because we face the same life-cycle today, that man has always faced.

A couple of interesting points from the Middle East,

Herding cultures come in from the northern steppes and from the deserts to replace planting cultures, here is where the Male-centered god replaces the earth-mother goddess (a different emphasis and culture).

The Hebrews were late on the scene, they adopt and modify the stories that already exist in the areas they move into. A common motif is that of the younger brother who is favored over the older. It can be seen in the tale of Cain and Abel, where Abel is the younger brother, a herder, and whose offering is pleasing to God (this tale also justifies any strife towards the old planting religions).
Good points.

I believe the Old Testament and the "Epics" are almost impossible to decipher with any legitimacy.

Many seem to be more directly "How To" stories that relayed useful information for the times in a religious context that gave them an importance they might not otherwise have had.

It seems lots of the "abominations" related to food were, in reality, intended to minimize food related illnesses.

On a theological level, I've never been able to reconcile the inherent unfairness of the parables of the Prodigal Son and Job, especially as so many suffered so much to teach the protagonists.

You'd think God wouldn't slap Bob to teach Fred not to screw up.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#8081 Apr 28, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>I've never seen a better argument for increasing funding for public education than this post.
Great post.

Whenever I think that Americans actually support effective public education, I read posts on TOPIX, and marvel at the number if Americans who are not just ignorant - but proud of it.
Informed Opinion

Lehigh Acres, FL

#8082 Apr 28, 2013
Bored wrote:
<quoted text>Good post. Of course the libtards wont watch, they even hate themselves in their mirrors. Their reflection exposes only an empty caricature.
Jesus was a "Libtard".

When you insult liberals - you insult Jesus.

Bless your little, tiny, minuscule, government supported heart.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#8083 Apr 28, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, the Creation and Flood stories came from earlier Sumerian mythology.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows...
In the earliest Christian movement, there were actually many different writings circulated, and many traditions about the sayings of Jesus. Some of the leaders were concerned to say, "Well, which of these writings can be read in church? Which are the right ones? Which are the best ones?" And Irenaeus, the leader of a church in France in about the year 170, declared that "The heretics boast that they have many more gospels than there really are. But really they don't have any gospels that aren't full of blasphemy. There actually are only four authentic gospels. And this is obviously true because there are four corners of the universe and there are four principal winds, and therefore there can be only four gospels that are authentic. These, besides, are written by Jesus' true followers."
...In the second and third century, we know that there were many other gospels that were developed. We have a charming array of popular kinds of stories of the life of Jesus.
...Irenaeus was a Bishop of Lyon...[He] was particularly noted for his writings in which he tried to combat various kinds of so-called heretics of the second century. Most of these were people who would consider themselves Christians.
...It may surprise people to know that it's really not until the year 367 that we have a list of New Testament books that conforms exactly to the list of the twenty-seven books we would call the New Testament today. So throughout the second and third centuries there was quite a lot of fighting about which ones are in and which ones not.
...The diversity of Christianity is certainly closely related to the proliferation of gospels. Even the gospels which we have in the canon of the New Testament are not of one mind, but really represent very different religious positions and very different images of Jesus.
...I think the composition of a four-fold gospel canon reflects complicated developments during the course of the second century. One of the factors that played a role here certainly was the fact that certain gospels were revered in certain ecclesiastical centers, so it may be that Antioch had a special affection for the Gospel of Luke. We don't know that for a fact, but this is certainly an element in the development of the gospel canon.
...If we return to Irenaeus' argument for the canon, I think precisely the contrary is closer to a more responsible historical reconstruction, and that is that there's some kind of consensus among people in the Jesus movement as to what constitutes reliable tradition, reliable literature - literature that they want to read or they want to hear over and over again, and other kinds of literature that they don't want to hear. And, of course, there are groups that have differences of opinion about this.
If you are going to quote sources, you should use more credible ones without an agenda. The very title "From Jesus to Christ" implies the notion held by liberal scholars that Jesus was a man, never claimed to be otherwise and that after his death some of his followers decided for some unknown reason to claim he was divine. Dominic Crossan was the usual spokesman that would be trotted out to speak for the Jesus Seminar - a group of liberals - most of whom were not even scholars- who for the most part held that same view.
The quote from Irenaeus is deliberately misquoted to make his points about the Gospels look ridiculous. The actual quote is that "The Gospel ....fittingly has four corners..." not "it is obviously true because of the winds, etc.". There is a huge difference. The twisting of the quotation is to serve the argument that Irenaeus is arguing for a new concept and had a weak arguments. Rather he appeals to the symbolism of the four winds, etc BECAUSE he has four gospels, not the other way around.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#8084 Apr 28, 2013
Irenaeus (cont)

Interestingly, the very sources you cited actually argue against themselves. L Michael Smith cites the Diatessaron (meaning "through the four") which was written somewhere between 160-175 and was basically a condensing together of the four gospel of Matthew, Mark Luke and John. However, Irenaeous did not write his letter containing the "four winds etc" until approx 180. The authority of the four gospels was already standard belief among the early church.
Elaine Pagels and Elizabeth Clark both have their feminist agenda that they promote and Pagels is a devotee of the so-called Gnostic gospels that are known to have been written at minimum 100 years after the four gospels in the canon that were written anywhere from 20-50 years after Jesus death and resurrection (in the case of Luke, Mark and Matthew) and within 60 years in the case of John.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#8085 Apr 28, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
Irenaeus (cont)
Interestingly, the very sources you cited actually argue against themselves. L Michael Smith cites the Diatessaron (meaning "through the four") which was written somewhere between 160-175 and was basically a condensing together of the four gospel of Matthew, Mark Luke and John. However, Irenaeous did not write his letter containing the "four winds etc" until approx 180. The authority of the four gospels was already standard belief among the early church.
Elaine Pagels and Elizabeth Clark both have their feminist agenda that they promote and Pagels is a devotee of the so-called Gnostic gospels that are known to have been written at minimum 100 years after the four gospels in the canon that were written anywhere from 20-50 years after Jesus death and resurrection (in the case of Luke, Mark and Matthew) and within 60 years in the case of John.
Great post!

I just shotgunned a six pack of root beer and pulled my knees up to my chin to shoot air outta my bhole and a dang liquid term came out and splattered on the coffee table. I hate when i crap on the coffee table. Now the living room smells like Dan Rather's armpit.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#8086 Apr 28, 2013
Turd that is, gotta go get the sham wow. Old lady threatinin to spray flex seal on my bhole now
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#8087 Apr 28, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
Just a few of the many new articles that will back my previous statements about Global Warming. I am surprised that someone didn't challenge me to show links. I guess by now you know that I can and will.
http://www.co2science.org/about/position/glob...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...
Alright BigDummy1 - Let's talk about your links.

co2science.org IS the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change. It says so right on the homepage of the link you provided.

So WHO exactly funds The Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change?

Exxon Mobil and other undisclosed donars who they refuse to name.

So exactly WHO runs the place? Craig Idso runs the place, along with his father and brother. Interestingly enough, Craig Idso had some previous jobs, all in the energy field, including Peabody Energy who is the largest private-sector coal-company in the world. Imagine that!?! He also worked for the nice-sounding company "The Science and Public Policy Institute", which sounds all official, and is run by a guy who is a policy advisor to Republican congressmen.

There's more. Lot's more.

But what is clearly going on here is that large coal and oil interests are paying for conflicting "science" to support Republican Congressmen who also take huge campaign contributions from big energy, and then give Big Energy plenty of votes in their interest and lots of tax breaks.

You're being hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Fooled. There is no "controversy" about man-made global climate change that isn't being paid for by big-energy and supported by Republican policy makers who are paid-for by big-energy.

This isn't conspiracy stuff. This isn't conspiracy stuff, it's what is happening right now, and it's fairly easy to follow.

Big Energy with billions of dollars at stake is paying for people to say that climate change isn't real.

And you're fool enough to buy into it.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#8088 Apr 28, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Good for you !
That's great - no more slams if "Libtard", or "liberal socialist commies" ( although none of those categories is UnAmerican).
It's too bad though you're not a neurosurgeon,
since you would have been educated at publicly funded high school,
and publicly funded college,
and trained at a publicly funded medical school,
and using publicly funded loans and grants,
and then further trained during internship at another publicly funded hospital,
You could have explained to us all how, without government participation you could have never accomplished what you have.
There is no requirement at all that a physician go through the path you mentioned. I know some who went to private schools their parents paid for, private colleges their parents paid for, private medical schools that they either paid for or in some cases served in the military to help pay for medical school. But even if they did go to public schools throughout their educational process, it is irrelevant. NO ONE is saying there should be NO government involvement in ANYTHING, that is both a stupid and fallacious argument you bring up to try and undercut those you disagree with when you have nothing better to support your position. Basically a straw man argument, typically used by those who recognize the weakness of their stance.
Farrell Landon

Washington, DC

#8089 Apr 28, 2013
Daggumit Butt.........you shoud see the wendys frosty that just got ejected outta my bhole.
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Alright BigDummy1 - Let's talk about your links.
co2science.org IS the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change. It says so right on the homepage of the link you provided.
So WHO exactly funds The Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change?
Exxon Mobil and other undisclosed donars who they refuse to name.
So exactly WHO runs the place? Craig Idso runs the place, along with his father and brother. Interestingly enough, Craig Idso had some previous jobs, all in the energy field, including Peabody Energy who is the largest private-sector coal-company in the world. Imagine that!?! He also worked for the nice-sounding company "The Science and Public Policy Institute", which sounds all official, and is run by a guy who is a policy advisor to Republican congressmen.
There's more. Lot's more.
But what is clearly going on here is that large coal and oil interests are paying for conflicting "science" to support Republican Congressmen who also take huge campaign contributions from big energy, and then give Big Energy plenty of votes in their interest and lots of tax breaks.
You're being hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Fooled. There is no "controversy" about man-made global climate change that isn't being paid for by big-energy and supported by Republican policy makers who are paid-for by big-energy.
This isn't conspiracy stuff. This isn't conspiracy stuff, it's what is happening right now, and it's fairly easy to follow.
Big Energy with billions of dollars at stake is paying for people to say that climate change isn't real.
And you're fool enough to buy into it.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#8090 Apr 28, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Great post-
I have ways been interested in the "Epic of Gilgamesh",
and its relationship to the Story of the Creation in Genesis, as well as the Books of Daniel and Ecclesiastics.
The similarities between the "Epic Poems", the Bible, the Koran, and the Egyptian "Book of the Dead", is startling and thought provoking.
Most people have not had the opportunity to compare the Old Testament and the Koran, or Shia vs. Sunni Muslims.
If a Great Flood did happen, it is hardly surprising that more than one account would appear. An interesting difference though is that if a boat were built according to the Gilgamesh account it would basically be a cube that would be rolled over and over in the water. Conversely, if a boat were built following the Biblical description, it would be completely seaworthy.

And why in the world would it surprise you that the Koran (or Quran) would bear similarity to the Bible. The Quran wasn't written until the 7th century AD and took much of its content from the Torah - it just changed the emphasis from the lineage of Abraham to Isaac and substituted the lineage of Abraham to Ishmael, thus claiming that the Arabs are actually God's chosen people.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#8091 Apr 28, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
Just a few of the many new articles that will back my previous statements about Global Warming. I am surprised that someone didn't challenge me to show links. I guess by now you know that I can and will.
http://www.co2science.org/about/position/glob...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012...
All right! Now for your Forbes link. The op-ed piece written by Peter Ferrara. Who is he? He's a "Libertarian scholar" who supports privatization of the social security. He's previously been paid by Jack Abramoff the lobbyist for writing favorable op-ed pieces for his clients. Remember Jack Abramoff? Convicted of bribing public officials? Peter Ferrar also works for the Heartland Institute.

Wait!- Who is the Heartland Institute? It sounds like a nice place with bricks and ivy and lots of smart professors, doesn't it? It's a conservative and libertarian think-tank.

Who funds the Heartland Institute? Here's some info on that very question:

The Heartland Institute does not disclose its funding sources. According to its brochures, Heartland receives money from approximately 1,600 individuals and organizations, and no single corporate entity donates more than 5% of the operating budget,[38] although the figure for individual donors can be much higher, with a single anonymous donor providing $4.6 million in 2008, and $979,000 in 2011, accounting for 20% of Heartland's overall budget, according to reports of a leaked fundraising plan.[39] Heartland states that it does not accept government funds and does not conduct contract research for special-interest groups.[40]

MediaTransparency reported that Heartland received funding from politically conservative foundations such as the Castle Rock Foundation, the Sarah Scaife Foundation, the John M. Olin Foundation, and the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation.[41] In 2011, the Institute received $25,000 from the Charles G. Koch Foundation.[14] The Charles Koch Foundation states that the contribution was "$25,000 to the Heartland Institute in 2011 for research in healthcare, not climate change, and this was the first and only donation the Foundation made to the institute in more than a decade".[42]

Oil and gas companies have contributed to the Heartland Institute, including over $600,000 from ExxonMobil between 1998 and 2005.[43] Greenpeace reported that Heartland received almost $800,000 from ExxonMobil.[20] In 2008, ExxonMobil said that they would stop funding to groups skeptical of climate warming, including Heartland.[43][44][45] Joseph Bast, president of the Heartland Institute, argued that ExxonMobil was simply distancing itself from Heartland out of concern for its public image.[43]

Big Energy - ExxonMobile and David Koch and the like - providing the operating funds to a non-profit think-tank that AMAZINGLY comes up with conclusions that favor them! Isn't that a coincidence?

And you've bought right into it. Hook line and sinker. You're a sucker for Big-Oil propaganda and paid-for Republican law makers.

You really should quit being so gullible.

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