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<quoted text>OMTE! I was KIDDING. I am not a neurosurgeon. As long as I have been posting, I just assumed everyone would know I was kidding. I don't look down on anyone. I just don't support the liberal mindset. Now! If THAT makes me a snob, then I AM a snob of the highest order. Otherwise, I am no snob. Actually, I am diabolically opposite.
Good for you !

That's great - no more slams if "Libtard", or "liberal socialist commies" ( although none of those categories is UnAmerican).

It's too bad though you're not a neurosurgeon,
since you would have been educated at publicly funded high school,
and publicly funded college,
and trained at a publicly funded medical school,
and using publicly funded loans and grants,
and then further trained during internship at another publicly funded hospital,

You could have explained to us all how, without government participation you could have never accomplished what you have.
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Just offered an observation that even in this small town there's a church on every street corner.

Now why is that...

Is it because we lack motorized transport so that churches must be close the congregation that they serve, not in this day and age.

Is it because of an increase in the piety of the population, or simply an increase in the population.

Is it because Christianity is not a unified system of belief, and that different folks have different strokes.

Now we're getting somewhere...

Have these differences of opinion led to splits and schisms, yep.

Have these differences of opinion lead to violence among differing flavors of Christianity, yep.

Do some flavors of Christianity consider themselves the one true bestest flavor, yep.

Obviously some believe in the Libertarian Jesus, some believe in the Liberal Jesus, some believe in the Jewish Jesus, some believe in the Gnostic Jesus, and some even believe that all of the above are correct because it's really a personal relationship with the transcendent.

And while you may feel that my previous response was wholly inadequate it was merely an attempt to paraphrase, boil down, get to the gist of the matter, and provide brevity for those folks who can only handle a limited number of words per post.
Great post.
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<quoted text>Yes, the Creation and Flood stories came from earlier Sumerian mythology.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows...
In the earliest Christian movement, there were actually many different writings circulated, and many traditions about the sayings of Jesus. Some of the leaders were concerned to say, "Well, which of these writings can be read in church? Which are the right ones? Which are the best ones?" And Irenaeus, the leader of a church in France in about the year 170, declared that "The heretics boast that they have many more gospels than there really are. But really they don't have any gospels that aren't full of blasphemy. There actually are only four authentic gospels. And this is obviously true because there are four corners of the universe and there are four principal winds, and therefore there can be only four gospels that are authentic. These, besides, are written by Jesus' true followers."

...In the second and third century, we know that there were many other gospels that were developed. We have a charming array of popular kinds of stories of the life of Jesus.

...Irenaeus was a Bishop of Lyon...[He] was particularly noted for his writings in which he tried to combat various kinds of so-called heretics of the second century. Most of these were people who would consider themselves Christians.

...It may surprise people to know that it's really not until the year 367 that we have a list of New Testament books that conforms exactly to the list of the twenty-seven books we would call the New Testament today. So throughout the second and third centuries there was quite a lot of fighting about which ones are in and which ones not.

...The diversity of Christianity is certainly closely related to the proliferation of gospels. Even the gospels which we have in the canon of the New Testament are not of one mind, but really represent very different religious positions and very different images of Jesus.

...I think the composition of a four-fold gospel canon reflects complicated developments during the course of the second century. One of the factors that played a role here certainly was the fact that certain gospels were revered in certain ecclesiastical centers, so it may be that Antioch had a special affection for the Gospel of Luke. We don't know that for a fact, but this is certainly an element in the development of the gospel canon.

...If we return to Irenaeus' argument for the canon, I think precisely the contrary is closer to a more responsible historical reconstruction, and that is that there's some kind of consensus among people in the Jesus movement as to what constitutes reliable tradition, reliable literature - literature that they want to read or they want to hear over and over again, and other kinds of literature that they don't want to hear. And, of course, there are groups that have differences of opinion about this.
Great post-

I have ways been interested in the "Epic of Gilgamesh",
and its relationship to the Story of the Creation in Genesis, as well as the Books of Daniel and Ecclesiastics.

The similarities between the "Epic Poems", the Bible, the Koran, and the Egyptian "Book of the Dead", is startling and thought provoking.

Most people have not had the opportunity to compare the Old Testament and the Koran, or Shia vs. Sunni Muslims.

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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g...
Great post-
I have ways been interested in the "Epic of Gilgamesh",
and its relationship to the Story of the Creation in Genesis, as well as the Books of Daniel and Ecclesiastics.
The similarities between the "Epic Poems", the Bible, the Koran, and the Egyptian "Book of the Dead", is startling and thought provoking.
Most people have not had the opportunity to compare the Old Testament and the Koran, or Shia vs. Sunni Muslims.
As a student of comparative religion I think you would enjoy these books. I was introduced to Joseph Campbell back in the 1980's with the PBS 6-hour prime time airing of The Power of Myth, a series of interviews between Bill Moyers and Joseph Campbell. The four volumes below should answer your questions, and then some. You can find them thru various retailers on line, or possibly at your local public library.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell
The Masks of God

Written between 1962 and 1968, Campbell's four-volume work The Masks of God covers mythology from around the world, from ancient to modern. Where The Hero with a Thousand Faces focused on the commonality of mythology (the “elementary ideas”), the Masks of God books focus upon historical and cultural variations the monomyth takes on (the “folk ideas”). In other words, where The Hero with a Thousand Faces draws perhaps more from psychology, the Masks of God books draw more from anthropology and history.

The four volumes of Masks of God are as follows:

Masks of God: Primitive Mythology,
Masks of God: Oriental Mythology,
Masks of God: Occidental Mythology,
Masks of God: Creative Mythology.
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<quoted text>As a student of comparative religion I think you would enjoy these books. I was introduced to Joseph Campbell back in the 1980's with the PBS 6-hour prime time airing of The Power of Myth, a series of interviews between Bill Moyers and Joseph Campbell. The four volumes below should answer your questions, and then some. You can find them thru various retailers on line, or possibly at your local public library.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Campbell
The Masks of God

Written between 1962 and 1968, Campbell's four-volume work The Masks of God covers mythology from around the world, from ancient to modern. Where The Hero with a Thousand Faces focused on the commonality of mythology (the “elementary ideas”), the Masks of God books focus upon historical and cultural variations the monomyth takes on (the “folk ideas”). In other words, where The Hero with a Thousand Faces draws perhaps more from psychology, the Masks of God books draw more from anthropology and history.

The four volumes of Masks of God are as follows:

Masks of God: Primitive Mythology,
Masks of God: Oriental Mythology,
Masks of God: Occidental Mythology,
Masks of God: Creative Mythology.
Great post.

Thanks.

I listened to Campbell's " Hero With a Thousand Faces" many years ago on CD, lasted for months because I constantly had to replay it to try to understand all that was being relayed.

I'll give "Masks" a try.

It is amazing how myths and folklore seem to validate that Voltaire saying;

"If God didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent him".

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It's just another propaganda piece for those who want to believe that liberals are evil and that Obama is Karl Marx.
http://www.steamd.net/post/43245585268/review...
It appears those who stand to gain the most by funding right-wing propaganda have hit on a winning formula for speaking to the gullible.
What else can you say, except the video documentary was dead on with all the facts that you would love to keep the American people from seeing.It never said that Obama was Karl Marx. It did imply that Obama is a Marxist. It did show all of Obamas communist affiliations. It did give a history of socialism and communism. It did show most of the communist supported organizations in this country. It did make people such as yourself very uneasy and will wake up those that do not know all this information yet.

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<quoted text>Do you not think that we are not directly reponsible for the change in precipitation patterns? Which in turn effects the sea levels. That the global warming is real and due to over population.
I must jump in and side this time with Bored. Global warming is a scam. Russian scientist have been warning that over the last ten years that temperatures are falling and that we will be in a little ice age for the net 33 years. Nasa has finally admitted to the same thing last week.
Think about it man. If it doesn't rain enough, it is global warming. If it rains too much,it is global warming. If it gets hot, it is global warming. Now that it is getting cooler,it is climate change caused by man that causes that. Of course there is climate change. There has been climate change going on for millions of years and it will continue for many millions more if we don't blow this earth up.
Too bad that you can't watch that video documentary as it goes into some detail about that also, and explains why it was so important to sell the idea to liberals and socialist.

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Sorry for the double post as Topix servers wouldn't seem to take it and I posted again.
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I must jump in and side this time with Bored. Global warming is a scam. Russian scientist have been warning that over the last ten years that temperatures are falling and that we will be in a little ice age for the net 33 years. Nasa has finally admitted to the same thing last week.
Think about it man. If it doesn't rain enough, it is global warming. If it rains too much,it is global warming. If it gets hot, it is global warming. Now that it is getting cooler,it is climate change caused by man that causes that. Of course there is climate change. There has been climate change going on for millions of years and it will continue for many millions more if we don't blow this earth up.
Too bad that you can't watch that video documentary as it goes into some detail about that also, and explains why it was so important to sell the idea to liberals and socialist.
I disagree on the grounds that scientific evidence has shown otherwise. Yes there has been climate changes since the beginning of time. The fact is though there has never been a creature upon this earth as powerful as man. We are changing the natural order of things and causing this natural climate change to happen far more rapidly than it would happen naturally. Thus not giving ourselves time as well as the wildlife time to adapt to this rapid extreme climate changing. I think it's just common sense that you usually have a ample supply of. Where do you think all this pollution goes? Do you think it just float up and magically disappears? If you crank you car up in a garage and sit in there for an extended period of time. You will die. The same principle applys here only on a much larger scale.

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<quoted text>I disagree on the grounds that scientific evidence has shown otherwise. Yes there has been climate changes since the beginning of time. The fact is though there has never been a creature upon this earth as powerful as man. We are changing the natural order of things and causing this natural climate change to happen far more rapidly than it would happen naturally. Thus not giving ourselves time as well as the wildlife time to adapt to this rapid extreme climate changing. I think it's just common sense that you usually have a ample supply of. Where do you think all this pollution goes? Do you think it just float up and magically disappears? If you crank you car up in a garage and sit in there for an extended period of time. You will die. The same principle applys here only on a much larger scale.
Where and when did u get ur science degree? Or any science whatever?
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Where and when did u get ur science degree? Or any science whatever?
Shut the f*ck up. You aggravating little b*t*h.

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<quoted text>Shut the f*ck up. You aggravating little b*t*h.
make me tuff guy.
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<quoted text>If we can control somewhat to a degree how of much of a problem we impose on this on this planet. Don't you think we should take steps to control the things we can, so to add the least amount to the problem as we can?


So far I have lived through:
1)A coming Ice Age (I bet this one makes a comeback)
2)Overpopulation leading to mass starvation
3)The world running out of fossil fuels- REPEATEDLY (we always seem to be 10-15 years from disaster)
4)Everyone getting three heads and glowing in the dark due to Nuclear reactors
5)The end of the Ozone layer, and its resulting calamitous effects on our health and the oh -so – fragile ecosystem
6)The repeatedly predicted collapse of said same oh- so -fragile ecosystem
7) everyone suffocating from CO2 poisoning because the rainforests are going to disappear.

…..and now Global Warming.

Does that answer your question?
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Nice irrational rambling Right Wing non-responsive, self-hating, diatribe.
Now use you government Socialist Security Check to buy a beer,
and government provided Socialist Medicare to see the doctor,
and government Socialist Part-D prescription Lorazepam,
and then drive down to the government provided TVA lake,
and throw a line to catch government provided fish,
and maybe you'll have the intellectual grasp to realize,
how silly it is for you to accuse anyone of being a socialist.
Self-hatred is a symptom of cognitive dissonance - a well recognized psychological issue confronted by folks who are dependent on the government,(all Americans), but rail against those dependent in the government.
We want you to love yourself, not hate yourself even though you're a government dependent American.
Relax, that just makes you a human being in the 21st Century.
Ga Tech fight song ""(I'm a) Ramblin' Wreck from Georgia Tech."

IO's fight song "With my Head tucked Between my Legs."


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<quoted text>I disagree on the grounds that scientific evidence has shown otherwise. Yes there has been climate changes since the beginning of time. The fact is though there has never been a creature upon this earth as powerful as man. We are changing the natural order of things and causing this natural climate change to happen far more rapidly than it would happen naturally. Thus not giving ourselves time as well as the wildlife time to adapt to this rapid extreme climate changing. I think it's just common sense that you usually have a ample supply of. Where do you think all this pollution goes? Do you think it just float up and magically disappears? If you crank you car up in a garage and sit in there for an extended period of time. You will die. The same principle applys here only on a much larger scale.
Your explanation is extremely over simplified. The atmosphere of the earth is huge and does cleanse itself. Scientist have just proved that co2 gases are not a cause of global warming. Ponder this one. Just how much pollution does one volcano put out in one day? They put out gases from sulfuric acid and many other highly toxic gases. It has been said that just one volcano puts out as much pollution in one day, as every car, airplane, and factory on earth does in a year. You must have seen videos of the huge billows of thick black smoke with ash falling covering thousands of miles. Is that not taken into account? How could anything that man does even create even a noticeable amount of pollution that all these volcanos do? Sure man can pollute the air as one can see the results in China but is that pollution actually warming the earth? If it is, than why is the earth actually getting cooler? Oh yeah, that's right it is global cooling {climate change),being caused by man. I think you are not old enough to remember that the big scare in the 1970"s was global cooling. It was headlines on all the newspapers and magazines for years of how the world was going into an ice age. Well it didn't and then in the 1990's, we are all going to die as the planet heats up, blah, blah, blah. Now it is climate change. This fictitious fear mongering science just goes on and on. It is a money maker and gives the EPA great power to control this country. All I am asking for you do do is just give this some logical thought.

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What else can you say, except the video documentary was dead on with all the facts that you would love to keep the American people from seeing.It never said that Obama was Karl Marx. It did imply that Obama is a Marxist. It did show all of Obamas communist affiliations. It did give a history of socialism and communism. It did show most of the communist supported organizations in this country. It did make people such as yourself very uneasy and will wake up those that do not know all this information yet.
Dave:

Made time to watch, very interesting, but it's fairly easy to do something like that after the fact (kinda like hindsight being 20/20.). Not saying I disagree, but it's hard to follow all the "connections" without knowing more facts or being able to independently verify them.

However, just like the BO 2016 movie, many of the clueless and uneducated won't even take the time to view it...

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make me tuff guy.
Careful, the person to whom you're responding determines who is "above and below" other posters ON AN ANONYMOUS BOARD. You won't fare well...

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Your explanation is extremely over simplified. The atmosphere of the earth is huge and does cleanse itself. Scientist have just proved that co2 gases are not a cause of global warming. Ponder this one. Just how much pollution does one volcano put out in one day? They put out gases from sulfuric acid and many other highly toxic gases. It has been said that just one volcano puts out as much pollution in one day, as every car, airplane, and factory on earth does in a year. You must have seen videos of the huge billows of thick black smoke with ash falling covering thousands of miles. Is that not taken into account? How could anything that man does even create even a noticeable amount of pollution that all these volcanos do? Sure man can pollute the air as one can see the results in China but is that pollution actually warming the earth? If it is, than why is the earth actually getting cooler? Oh yeah, that's right it is global cooling {climate change),being caused by man. I think you are not old enough to remember that the big scare in the 1970"s was global cooling. It was headlines on all the newspapers and magazines for years of how the world was going into an ice age. Well it didn't and then in the 1990's, we are all going to die as the planet heats up, blah, blah, blah. Now it is climate change. This fictitious fear mongering science just goes on and on. It is a money maker and gives the EPA great power to control this country. All I am asking for you do do is just give this some logical thought.
Reminds me of a trip to Las Vegas in December, 2008 (work related), waiting in line in the ATL airport to board the plane and some nut job was talking about global warming and how it was going to "ruin the earth". I asked him if realized Las Vegas had just received around 6-8 inches of snow and ice. He mumbled something but didn't respond...
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Reminds me of a trip to Las Vegas in December, 2008 (work related), waiting in line in the ATL airport to board the plane and some nut job was talking about global warming and how it was going to "ruin the earth". I asked him if realized Las Vegas had just received around 6-8 inches of snow and ice. He mumbled something but didn't respond...
Local weather at a given moment and location is not an indicator of long-term climate change.

If only the clueless and uneducated could get this simple concept.

http://climate.nasa.gov/system/content_pages/...
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Great post.
Thanks.
I listened to Campbell's " Hero With a Thousand Faces" many years ago on CD, lasted for months because I constantly had to replay it to try to understand all that was being relayed.
I'll give "Masks" a try.
It is amazing how myths and folklore seem to validate that Voltaire saying;
"If God didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent him".
My take on Campbell's work is not so much that we feel the need to invent God, but that we are constantly struggling to find a set of meaningful symbols with which to converse on that which transcends all symbols. These symbols change thru history but the topic of discussion has always remained the same, because we face the same life-cycle today, that man has always faced.

A couple of interesting points from the Middle East,

Herding cultures come in from the northern steppes and from the deserts to replace planting cultures, here is where the Male-centered god replaces the earth-mother goddess (a different emphasis and culture).

The Hebrews were late on the scene, they adopt and modify the stories that already exist in the areas they move into. A common motif is that of the younger brother who is favored over the older. It can be seen in the tale of Cain and Abel, where Abel is the younger brother, a herder, and whose offering is pleasing to God (this tale also justifies any strife towards the old planting religions).

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