Who do you support for U.S. Senate in Georgia in 2010?

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I don't have an agenda, other than a desire to apply common-sense and equitable responsible solutions to the problems that affect our country and the people who live here.
I DON'T like to read things that support my "agenda" if they are just pure made-up crap and gibberish. It's just a waste of time and an exercise for the weak-minded.
Of course you have an agenda. You have an extreme left wing aganda. Of course.
The article wasn't made up. It just didn't support your agenda of Obama is all good. Simple. It's no secret that Michelle, in particular, is taking advantage of the taxpayers money. You just don't like it in black and white. If you libs weren't so drunk, you'd be at least a little embarrassed.

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Too funny, you advocate that Intelligent Design is a theory worthy of scientific consideration, but state that the implied agent behind the Intelligent Design is irrelevant.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconcep...
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What I said was that "who the Designer is" is not relevant to THIS discussion. The point is that there needs FIRST be a recognition of the need for an "outside" designer. The debate over who that designer may be is secondary to THIS discussion - and this is not the forum for that secondary topic. And to repeat, you apparently missed the irony of Crick's supposition of an "alien designer" - the same questions would apply to where that alien came from - another alien race??-which amounts to an infinite regress until finally one must recognize the need for an "outside" designer.
Your examples discuss microevolution, which most (probably all) do not dispute. As I stated, macroevolution is vital for support of evolution and has yet to be evidenced.
Regarding the origin of life - again, the supporting argument is full of "can occur" "might occur" "could occur" - again suppositions, but no factual evidence.
I repeat - THIS is not the forum for this. I only responded to your dismissive post about Rick Santorum and his beliefs.

Let's agree to disagree and quit taking this down a rabbit hole - In the interest of intellectual integrity and discussion, I affirm that Intelligent Design should be presented as should the Theory of Evolution. You disagree - fair enough.

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You points:
1. Has nothing to do with anything.
2. Has nothing to do with anything.
3. That was already understood.
4. That has nothing to do with anything. This is just an example.
5. I'm already aware of the prebate idea.
6. Lower taxes does not equate into jobs. That claim has been disproven over and over again. Nobody cares what the the guy does with his money as long as he's not screwing anybody else.
7. That's understood. You're OBVIOUSLY dodging the issue of percentage of income that I brought up. The whole plan is just another way for the wealthiest to dodge more taxes.
8. Nor will I waste time on that. It's a different issue completely.
Wealth envy and hating? Hardly. That's just a typical BS response those who oppose the wealthy getting preferential treatment over and at the expense of the middle-class and poor. It's an old and tired retort. You should probably remove it from your bag of retorts at some point. It's making you look old.
You know damn well that the "fair tax" is not equitable in the slightest. You like it because it suits your agenda. But Fair? Even you know it isn't.
For the umpteenth time under various names, your lack of understanding gets documented again...

Wrong on so many fronts, not worth the time trying to explain in detail (I've done that many times already to you under different names)...

1-3. Your (lousy) example. You "set" the table with your socialist views...

5. How does it work and what is it's % impact on the poor?

Your big lack of understanding related to #8 (do some research about unrecorded income).

#7 is your typical straw man argument. Makes no sense. The person that makes more money does something with it (spending, investing, whatever), or they leave it sit in the bank (which then loans it out. So what? BTW, we'd all be paying the same rate, isn't that fair?

"You know damn well that the "fair tax" is not equitable in the slightest."

NEVER has there been a more inaccurate statement than the above. You are 100% wrong.

You have it out for rich/wealthy people. Face it. It's OK. I have envy of people that can run a 4.4 second 40 yard dash or can throw a fastball 100 mph. I'll get over it.

And, you don't understand the FairTax. It's OK, it likely will never see the light of day, just like your answers to questions posed you almost a week ago about your tax ideas...

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Of course you have an agenda. You have an extreme left wing aganda. Of course.
The article wasn't made up. It just didn't support your agenda of Obama is all good. Simple. It's no secret that Michelle, in particular, is taking advantage of the taxpayers money. You just don't like it in black and white. If you libs weren't so drunk, you'd be at least a little embarrassed.
One has to care and be aware to be a little embarrassed...

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An uneducated and clueless voter is a dangerous thing. They tend to vote Liberal…

“I don’t want someone who doesn’t pay ANY federal income taxes voting to determine how much I pay.”

"I'm not going to let half the country that doesn't pay income taxes be burdened by the other half that doesn't pay their fair share."

Wealth envy is an ugly thing. They have it. You don't.

Somebody else got all the breaks. You didn't.

They got an education. You didn't.

They worked their a$$es off, including long hours and weekends. You didn't.

They took risks, including investing their own money if necessary, to build a business. You didn't.

"Shared prosperity" = Socialism...

“If you’re not a liberal at 20, you have no heart, and if you’re not a conservative at 40, you have no head.” Winston Churchill

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” Winston Churchill

“Common sense is a flower that doesn’t grow in everyone’s garden…”
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What kind of a deal did Bush make with the middle east on the oil? Surly must have done something. He is an oil man and Cheney was too. Like foxes in the hen house.
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I should have said ... As a practicing Catholic, I see you stoop to low very blows .
^^^ Very low blows.

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Oh my wrote:
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http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA201.h...

The theory of evolution has proved itself in practice. It has useful applications in epidemiology, pest control, drug discovery, and other areas (Bull and Wichman 2001; Eisen and Wu 2002; Searls 2003).
Besides the theory, there is the fact of evolution, the observation that life has changed greatly over time. The fact of evolution was recognized even before Darwin's theory. The theory of evolution explains the fact.
Again, microevolution, not macro.

Also, again, intellectual and scientific honesty should necessitate the presentation of the holes in evolutionary theory. I would also state that it should necessitate the teaching of an alternative theory that has it's basis in science as well. Teach both - the pros and cons.
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Just read that the USPS has delayed the decision for a 5 day mail delivery. It doesn't matter that it's losing $25 million per day, some estimates as high as $40 million daily ... Do we have any problem solvers in Washington?
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Aggie23 wrote:
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Your examples discuss microevolution, which most (probably all) do not dispute. As I stated, macroevolution is vital for support of evolution and has yet to be evidenced.
Oh, you want evidence of MacroEvolution...

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/secti...
...If every living species descended from an original species that had these four obligate functions, then all living species today should necessarily have these functions (a somewhat trivial conclusion). Most importantly, however, all modern species should have inherited the structures that perform these functions. Thus, a basic prediction of the genealogical relatedness of all life, combined with the constraint of gradualism, is that organisms should be very similar in the particular mechanisms and structures that execute these four basic life processes.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/secti...
By studying the standard phylogenetic tree, it can be seen that every species has a unique genealogical history. Each species has a unique series of common ancestors linking it to the original common ancestor. We should expect that organisms carry evidence of this history and ancestry with them. The standard phylogenetic tree predicts what historical evidence is possible and what is impossible for each given species.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/secti...
Opportunism and Evolutionary Constraint

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/secti...
The Molecular Sequence Evidence

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/secti...
Change and Mutability

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/closi...
hese previous points are all evidence of macroevolution alone; the evidence and the conclusion are independent of any specific gradualistic explanatory mechanisms for the origin and evolution of macroevolutionary adaptations. This is why scientists call universal common descent the "fact of evolution". As explained in the introduction, none of the predictions directly address how macroevolution has occurred; nevertheless, the validity of the macroevolutionary conclusion does not depend on whether Darwinism, Lamarckism (i.e. inheritance of acquired characaters), or something else is the true mechanism of adaptive evolutionary change. The macroevolutionary conclusion stands, regardless.

This point has an interesting parallel in physics. Newton's theory of universal gravitation describes a phenomenon of matter, just as macroevolution describes a phenomenon of life. The theory of universal gravitation is also independent of the specific explanatory mechanism for gravity, and in fact Newton never gave a mechanism for gravity. Why does the force between two masses follow the inverse square law and not another law (perhaps an inverse cube law)? It took nearly 300 years before any plausible mechanisms for gravity were proposed (by quantum field theorists). None of these proposed mechanisms currently have any experimental support. Additionally, theories of gravity are strictly dependent upon the concept of mass, and there currently is no empirically supported mechanism for giving mass to matter. Charles Darwin is considered such a great scientific mind because, unlike Newton and Einstein who proposed only descriptive theories, Darwin proposed both a descriptive theory and a plausible mechanism. That mechanism is, of course, heritable variation with natural selection.
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What I said was that "who the Designer is" is not relevant to THIS discussion. The point is that there needs FIRST be a recognition of the need for an "outside" designer. The debate over who that designer may be is secondary to THIS discussion - and this is not the forum for that secondary topic. And to repeat, you apparently missed the irony of Crick's supposition of an "alien designer" - the same questions would apply to where that alien came from - another alien race??-which amounts to an infinite regress until finally one must recognize the need for an "outside" designer.

I repeat - THIS is not the forum for this. I only responded to your dismissive post about Rick Santorum and his beliefs.
"The point is that there needs FIRST be a recognition of the need for an "outside" designer."
Nope, only ID has this requirement, Evolution deals with what can be observed in the real world it does not concern itself with the question of who.

As to the question of where the aliens came from, the very same physical processes that lead to the emergence of life on Earth may work on other planets, unfortunately we'll need to wait a bit longer for those observations to be possible.

"Regarding the origin of life - again, the supporting argument is full of "can occur" "might occur" "could occur" - again suppositions, but no factual evidence."
This is the stuff of Science, question and experimentation leading to a refinement of the questions and experimentations. This process can be very disconcerting for those who need the illusion of something concrete to support their beliefs.

"I repeat - THIS is not the forum for this. I only responded to your dismissive post about Rick Santorum and his beliefs."
While you may consider the original post dismissive, it was actually illustrative of the rightward track of the GOP electorate in the last two elections. The only two GOP Primary candidates that expressed support for the Theory of Evolution were Huntsman and Romney, and judging by the comments in this discussion neither of them are conservative enough to suit the tastes of many.

Intelligent Design is simply warmed over Creationism trying to get a foothold in public schools, and the GOP hasn't made a decision to cut loose its religious conservatives. At some point the GOP will need to decide whether it wants to be a viable political party or chase its conservative tail into oblivion.
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Actually, YOU are a prime example of what's wrong period. You libs speak in terms of MOST, LARGE MAJORITY. According to the left wing media, MOST of the citizens did NOT WANT Obamacare, but it was passed anyway. HOW do you know MOST want ANYTHING????? You referenced a report from 2009. Just curious. How exactuly do you think "control" of ANYTHING is going to stop it from happening? Do you honestly think that if someone wants something bad enough, they won't be able to get it? SERIOUSLY? Explain that. It's nothing more than lip service and sucking up and playing into the government NEEDY liberals. You can't control yourselves, so you need the government to do it. And it won't change anything except CONTROL law abiding citizens who probably don't even need control. So, explain how you and your fellow lib's ideas of control will control the criminals. I can't wait! While you are at it, are you going to jump on the bandwagon for KNIFE CONTROL now? Don't tell ME that I'M the problem with the republican party. If you're so smart, why aren't YOU running for office?????? YOU are the NUT.
Great post, Synergy!!
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Yep, 3 Americans were killed in some God forsaken hellhole nation half a world away where there Right Wing anarchy reigns supreme - let's get that preventing it;
3,000 Americans killed on American land, the World Trade Center destroyed, the Pentagon attacked - hey, don't blame Bush - stuff happens.
It's just a shame Right Wingers aren't intellectually capable of appreciating the entertainment value of their lunacy.
Just keep flapping your trap. It's what you're best at, along with Oh My & History is No Les. Your're gonna bust ya gut or blow a vessel- you need a pressure pill, mixed with a straight up bourban. Then, ask that the wife you speak so fondly of, to drive you to the nearest clinic or mental health facility. Always remember, breathe in through your nose and out wiith your mouth. And PLEASE ask her to lock your guns up and hide the friggin key.
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IO, you are a troll, a whiner, arrogant, and certainly not as brilliant as a few others on this forum. So, just know, whatever I may have said nice about you, I take it back.
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"The point is that there needs FIRST be a recognition of the need for an "outside" designer."
Nope, only ID has this requirement, Evolution deals with what can be observed in the real world it does not concern itself with the question of who.

This is the stuff of Science, question and experimentation leading to a refinement of the questions and experimentations. This process can be very disconcerting for those who need the illusion of something concrete to support their beliefs.
I wish that evolution did deal with only what could be observed in the real world - the whole theory would be in the junkpile because it cannot be observed.

"does not concern itself with the question of who" - no, but it most certainly does try and deal with the question of what - and it has no answers. The scientists who created simple amino acids in the lab in the 50's thought they had finally answered the question, but they were never able to get beyond those simple amino acids. When later research indicated their approximation of Earth's early atmosphere was wrong and they tried to replicate their results with the new information, they couldn't even get to simple amino acids. And even if they had, what would it really prove?- congratulations to the intelligent designers.

"This process can be very disconcerting for those who need the illusion of something concrete to support their beliefs." I couldn't agree with you more - and the best example is the stampede by atheists to embrace Darwin's theory.
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It's a good time of the day to get my jab in. Republicans are history for almost four enjoyable years. They allowed the worst piece of human scum to permanently damage my country for 8 long stressful years. This piece of chit should be in a federal prisin under 23 hour lickdown (bush). I saw one of satan's reject's on TV yesterday. cheney looks more pointed and devilish every year that goes by. Maybe lucifer in preparing him for even more evil deeds, he sure looks more pointed in the face every time I have to briefly look at him. the only thing missing a a pair of pointed horns coming from his forehead.
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So refreshing and somewhat joyful to see the same sour grapes die in the wool republicans on this forum spitting out their venom. Of course they have to accept it that they have little or no say in OUR government for the next 4 years. Maybe some of them will leave OUR country or overdose, either way makes no difference to me, they got it coming!

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Glorya wrote:
IO, you are a troll, a whiner, arrogant, and certainly not as brilliant as a few others on this forum. So, just know, whatever I may have said nice about you, I take it back.
I'm an Indian giver, with no apologies.
You go girl!!
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Oh my wrote:
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"The point is that there needs FIRST be a recognition of the need for an "outside" designer."
Nope, only ID has this requirement, Evolution deals with what can be observed in the real world it does not concern itself with the question of who.
As to the question of where the aliens came from, the very same physical processes that lead to the emergence of life on Earth may work on other planets, unfortunately we'll need to wait a bit longer for those observations to be possible.
"Regarding the origin of life - again, the supporting argument is full of "can occur" "might occur" "could occur" - again suppositions, but no factual evidence."
This is the stuff of Science, question and experimentation leading to a refinement of the questions and experimentations. This process can be very disconcerting for those who need the illusion of something concrete to support their beliefs.
"I repeat - THIS is not the forum for this. I only responded to your dismissive post about Rick Santorum and his beliefs."
While you may consider the original post dismissive, it was actually illustrative of the rightward track of the GOP electorate in the last two elections. The only two GOP Primary candidates that expressed support for the Theory of Evolution were Huntsman and Romney, and judging by the comments in this discussion neither of them are conservative enough to suit the tastes of many.
Intelligent Design is simply warmed over Creationism trying to get a foothold in public schools, and the GOP hasn't made a decision to cut loose its religious conservatives. At some point the GOP will need to decide whether it wants to be a viable political party or chase its conservative tail into oblivion.
I doubt that the GOP will chase its tail into oblivion just like I doubted my friends who after Bush's reelection bemoaned that the right had created such conditions that we wouldn't have a Democrat President for decades. Eventually, things shift.
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columbus native wrote:
So refreshing and somewhat joyful to see the same sour grapes die in the wool republicans on this forum spitting out their venom. Of course they have to accept it that they have little or no say in OUR government for the next 4 years. Maybe some of them will leave OUR country or overdose, either way makes no difference to me, they got it coming!
Didn't they all promise to go to Canada if Obama won? I wish they would do what they said they would. You know how Republicans always lie.

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Didn't they all promise to go to Canada if Obama won? I wish they would do what they said they would. You know how Republicans always lie.
If they all went to Canada there would not be any tax revenues and all you liberal's would starve to death.

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