Who do you support for U.S. Senate in Georgia in 2010?

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Your response is completely irrelevant to my point. You are talking about home sales for investment or leasing purposes or large scale business ventures. I was talking about Joe Smith down the street who sells his home to either upgrade or downsize and makes a profit on the sale. Mr Smith is the type of everyday person who is hurt by an increase in capital gains tax increases.
Bill in Dville, please correct me if wrong.
Aggie: subject to some rules (length of time lived in the house) and exclusions ($250K for an individual,$500K for a married couple) and some other goofy stuff, you are correct.
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Aggie: subject to some rules (length of time lived in the house) and exclusions ($250K for an individual,$500K for a married couple) and some other goofy stuff, you are correct.
But only if you purchase another home within a certain time period.
If the new home costs less than the sale then I believe a capital gain must be reported in relation to the original investment.

So if you do not buy a new home and go and live with the kids, all of the capital gain is supposed to be reported.


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Ha-ha-ha @ Krugman, a liberals love child.

Paul Krugman is a frustrated man — a Cassandra whose wise warnings are regularly ignored by fellow economists, policy experts and political leaders alike. This past week has been especially difficult for the Nobel Prize winner, who like Sisyphus, must continue to push back against the ignorant fools who dismiss his debt-denying ways as reckless.

Mr. Krugman came on “Morning Joe” and declared that Washington needn’t worry about its long-term debt problem until the moment that programs like Medicare begin melting down.

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Paul Krugman justified this indefensible position by saying that since Washington politicians are too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time, they are incapable of running short-term deficits while worrying about long-term debt.

The Krugman solution? Simply ignore America’s long-term debt.

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But only if you purchase another home within a certain time period.
If the new home costs less than the sale then I believe a capital gain must be reported in relation to the original investment.
So if you do not buy a new home and go and live with the kids, all of the capital gain is supposed to be reported.
Nope. I believe that rule changed in the late 90s.

If memory serves correct, it (the capital gains exclusion) was available to those 55 and over and it was a lower amount. If you were under 55 and purchased a more expensive home, you could "delay" the capital gains impact.

The $250K/$500K exclusion applies to all, subject to certain rules.
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Off topic but here who cares. Libs hate to work and all the other nonsense you spout reminded me of just why the Republican Party is in such shambles. Compare it to the Catholic Church and it becomes obvious!. In a 2009 report by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life estimated that one in 10 adults in the U.S. was raised Catholic but has broken with the church. Its teachings on abortion, homosexuality, birth control and treatment of women were often cited as reasons.
Sounds just like the Republican Party, out of touch with the majority of its members. In the news today is a possible compromise between parties on a few gun laws. And the idiot wing of the Republican Party is already talking about filibuster. Considering a large majority of Americans wants something done it’s just another nail in the coffin of what was once the party of Lincoln. With nuts like you taking the way you do, it’s doomed.
Nuts diss other's spiritual beliefs. So, in this case ... you're the nut, and a witch.
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I condensed your post for space and pertinent points.
1. The "who" is irrelevant to the discussion, the point is that a "Designer" is necessary. And I will ask you -can evolution be observed and replicated -to answer, no, macroevolution, which is the point of contention, cannot be observed and replicated - and what does evolution predict?
Too funny, you advocate that Intelligent Design is a theory worthy of scientific consideration, but state that the implied agent behind the Intelligent Design is irrelevant.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconcep...
"Evolution has never been observed."

Biologists define evolution as a change in the gene pool of a population over time. One example is insects developing a resistance to pesticides over the period of a few years. Even most Creationists recognize that evolution at this level is a fact. What they don't appreciate is that this rate of evolution is all that is required to produce the diversity of all living things from a common ancestor.

The origin of new species by evolution has also been observed, both in the laboratory and in the wild. See, for example,(Weinberg, J.R., V.R. Starczak, and D. Jorg, 1992, "Evidence for rapid speciation following a founder event in the laboratory." Evolution 46: 1214-1220). The "Observed Instances of Speciation" FAQ in the talk.origins archives gives several additional examples.

Even without these direct observations, it would be wrong to say that evolution hasn't been observed. Evidence isn't limited to seeing something happen before your eyes. Evolution makes predictions about what we would expect to see in the fossil record, comparative anatomy, genetic sequences, geographical distribution of species, etc., and these predictions have been verified many times over. The number of observations supporting evolution is overwhelming.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA220.h...
Science requires that observations can be replicated. The observations on which evolution is based, including comparative anatomy, genetics, and fossils, are replicable. In many cases, you can repeat the observations yourself.

Repeatable experiments, including experiments about mutations and natural selection in the laboratory and in the field, also support evolution.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA210.h...
The difference in predictive power between evolution and other sciences is one of degree, not kind. All theories are simplifications; they purposely neglect as many outside variables as they can. But these extraneous variables do affect predictions. For example, you can predict the future position of an orbiting planet, but your prediction will be off very slightly because you can not consider the effects of all the small bodies in the solar system. Evolution is more sensitive to initial conditions and extraneous factors, so specific predictions about what mutations will occur and what traits will survive are impractical. It is still possible to use evolution to make general predictions about the future, though. For example, we can predict that diseases will become resistant to any new widely used antibiotics.

The predictive power of science comes from being able to say things we would not have been able to say otherwise. These predictions do not have to be about things happening in the future. They can be "retrodictions" about things from the past that we have not found yet. Evolution allows innumerable predictions of this sort.

Evolution has been the basis of many predictions. For example (see link)...
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During Romney's run, a few things were said about Mormanism ... and many have mentioned Wright, Obama's pastor of 20+ years ... never have I heard ANY person on this forum talk negatively about Judiasm, Buddhism, Protestants, Hindus nor Catholics. As a practicing Catholic, you take very low blows. Why not call out the Kansas, Westboro Church? Or Wright? They're obviously hate filled?
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The Straw Man argument King strikes again...
Another shining example of "clueless and uneducated", you don't know what you're talking about and the difference between income tax and a consumption tax. Apples and oranges.
1. Maybe some poor auto mechanic (ASSUME it's a man) making $35K shouldn't be having kids until he and his wife can afford them. Is the wife working? What's she make? Maybe the guy (or wife) needs to get a part time job.
2. Auto mechanic at $35K? Hardly. I know several that are almost 2x that amount.
3. In your "example", the guy is likely ALREADY consuming all of his income AND paying a 12-13% federal income tax rate. He's ALREADY paying the embedded taxes now in his consumption.
3. How many people make $50 million a year? You're hate of the wealthy is quite obvious, but there's not a lot of them out there for you to hate...
4. Under the FairTax, income is not taxed, doesn't matter one iota what someone makes, it's what they spend on new things. Once gain, you don't understand it.
5. "Poor" people will get a prebate that will "zero out" or, possibly, make their FairTax negative (wealth distribution again?)...Apparently you didn't research it as suggested. You don't understand it...
6. What do you care with the $50M guy does? If he invests the money in a new company, jobs are created. If he puts it in the bank, the bank loans it out, helping the community (unless it's for home loans to people that can't afford them).
7. The $50M guy likely pays more FairTax because he spends more. Isn't that fair (as you libs want)?
8. I won't even waste (much) time on those that are paid cash or "under the table" paying their fair share...
Your wealth envy and hating is so similar to the uninformed opinion dude? You the same person (again)?
You points:
1. Has nothing to do with anything.
2. Has nothing to do with anything.
3. That was already understood.
4. That has nothing to do with anything. This is just an example.
5. I'm already aware of the prebate idea.
6. Lower taxes does not equate into jobs. That claim has been disproven over and over again. Nobody cares what the the guy does with his money as long as he's not screwing anybody else.
7. That's understood. You're OBVIOUSLY dodging the issue of percentage of income that I brought up. The whole plan is just another way for the wealthiest to dodge more taxes.
8. Nor will I waste time on that. It's a different issue completely.

Wealth envy and hating? Hardly. That's just a typical BS response those who oppose the wealthy getting preferential treatment over and at the expense of the middle-class and poor. It's an old and tired retort. You should probably remove it from your bag of retorts at some point. It's making you look old.

You know damn well that the "fair tax" is not equitable in the slightest. You like it because it suits your agenda. But Fair? Even you know it isn't.
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3. "Once a molecule forms that is self replicating" Ah, but there's the rub. How did that first self replicating molecule come to be. Scientists have tried (and failed) for decades to create the "basic building blocks of life" under ideal laboratory conditions. And yet we are to believe random chance is the "primordial ooze" somehow managed it. Now THAT'S faith.

Francis Crick, co-discoverer of the structure of DNA realized that the origin of life presented a huge obstacle to evolution proponents. His proposal was that earth was "seeded" by spores engineered on a distant planet. Now that is rich, he will not accept the concept of an Intelligent Designer of the universe and life on this planet, but he will accept the idea of an ALIEN "intelligently designing" spores that are then "planted" here. And by the way, who designed the intelligent alien? Infinite regress, anyone??
"And by the way, who designed the intelligent alien?"
So, which is it, are we to be concerned with who the Designer is, or is it irrelevant?

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB010_2...
Biochemistry is not chance. It inevitably produces complex products. Amino acids and other complex molecules are even known to form in space.

Nobody knows what the most primitive cells looked like. All the cells around today are the product of billions of years of evolution. The earliest self-replicator was likely very much simpler than anything alive today; self-replicating molecules need not be all that complex (Lee et al. 1996), and protein-building systems can also be simple (Ball 2001; Tamura and Schimmel 2001).

This claim is an example of the argument from incredulity. Nobody denies that the origin of life is an extremely difficult problem. That it has not been solved, though, does not mean it is impossible. In fact, there has been much work in this area, leading to several possible origins for life on earth:

[snip, see link]

Emerging hypercycles: This proposes a gradual origin of the first life, roughly in the following stages:(1) a primordial soup of simple organic compounds. This seems to be almost inevitable; (2) nucleoproteins, somewhat like modern tRNA (de Duve 1995a) or peptide nucleic acid (Nelson et al. 2000), and semicatalytic; (3) hypercycles, or pockets of primitive biochemical pathways that include some approximate self-replication; (4) cellular hypercycles, in which more complex hypercycles are enclosed in a primitive membrane; (5) first simple cell. Complexity theory suggests that the self-organization is not improbable. This view of abiogenesis is the current front-runner.

The iron-sulfur world (Russell and Hall 1997; Wächtershäuser 2000): It has been found that all the steps for the conversion of carbon monoxide into peptides can occur at high temperature and pressure, catalyzed by iron and nickel sulfides. Such conditions exist around submarine hydrothermal vents. Iron sulfide precipitates could have served as precursors of cell walls as well as catalysts (Martin and Russell 2003). A peptide cycle, from peptides to amino acids and back, is a prerequisite to metabolism, and such a cycle could have arisen in the iron-sulfur world (Huber et al. 2003).

Polymerization on sheltered organophilic surfaces (Smith et al. 1999): The first self-replicating molecules may have formed within tiny indentations of silica-rich surfaces so that the surrounding rock was its first cell wall.

Something that no one has thought of yet.

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http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/orig...

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Yeah, I read that earlier.
SLEAZY REPORTER: "I know!(light-bulb pops on over head!) Let's interview some die-hard Obama Haters and call it NEWS! The Republicans love it when do that! The more slanted the better! They like reading things they agree with."
There you go again with your double standard. YOU, of course, don't LIKE to read articles that support YOUR agenda. Laughable.

Again, you give passes to Obama. No cred.
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4. Finally, the theory of evolution fails the very definition you used. It has "self consistency" "agreement with observations" and "usefulness" only when it is accepted on "faith". But this is not the topic for a banter back and forth on the merits of evolution vs intelligent design. But it would be intellectually honest to present both views to students with the pros and cons of both laid out. That would foster healthy discussion and debate. The theory of evolution is still just that, a THEORY in the most literal sense of the word -meaning "an unproven assumption" . To assert it as FACT is far more an act of FAITH than of science. And proponents of ID are more than willing for ID to be taught in the same fashion - as a theory.
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA201.h...
The word theory, in the context of science, does not imply uncertainty. It means "a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena" (Barnhart 1948). In the case of the theory of evolution, the following are some of the phenomena involved.

All are facts:
Life appeared on earth more than two billion years ago;
Life forms have changed and diversified over life's history;
Species are related via common descent from one or a few common ancestors;
Natural selection is a significant factor affecting how species change.

Many other facts are explained by the theory of evolution as well.

The theory of evolution has proved itself in practice. It has useful applications in epidemiology, pest control, drug discovery, and other areas (Bull and Wichman 2001; Eisen and Wu 2002; Searls 2003).

Besides the theory, there is the fact of evolution, the observation that life has changed greatly over time. The fact of evolution was recognized even before Darwin's theory. The theory of evolution explains the fact.

If "only a theory" were a real objection, creationists would also be issuing disclaimers complaining about the theory of gravity, atomic theory, the germ theory of disease, and the theory of limits (on which calculus is based). The theory of evolution is no less valid than any of these. Even the theory of gravity still receives serious challenges (Milgrom 2002). Yet the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is still a fact.

see also...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fac...

When non-biologists talk about biological evolution they often confuse two different aspects of the definition. On the one hand there is the question of whether or not modern organisms have evolved from older ancestral organisms or whether modern species are continuing to change over time. On the other hand there are questions about the mechanism of the observed changes... how did evolution occur? Biologists consider the existence of biological evolution to be a fact. It can be demonstrated today and the historical evidence for its occurrence in the past is overwhelming. However, biologists readily admit that they are less certain of the exact mechanism of evolution; there are several theories of the mechanism of evolution....
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During Romney's run, a few things were said about Mormanism ... and many have mentioned Wright, Obama's pastor of 20+ years ... never have I heard ANY person on this forum talk negatively about Judiasm, Buddhism, Protestants, Hindus nor Catholics. As a practicing Catholic, you take very low blows. Why not call out the Kansas, Westboro Church? Or Wright? They're obviously hate filled?

I should have said ... As a practicing Catholic, I see you stoop to low very blows .

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Aggie: subject to some rules (length of time lived in the house) and exclusions ($250K for an individual,$500K for a married couple) and some other goofy stuff, you are correct.
Ah, thank you for the clarification, I thought that was only for seniors - my bad.
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YOU, of course, don't LIKE to read articles that support YOUR agenda.
I don't have an agenda, other than a desire to apply common-sense and equitable responsible solutions to the problems that affect our country and the people who live here.

I DON'T like to read things that support my "agenda" if they are just pure made-up crap and gibberish. It's just a waste of time and an exercise for the weak-minded.

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Off topic but here who cares. Libs hate to work and all the other nonsense you spout reminded me of just why the Republican Party is in such shambles. Compare it to the Catholic Church and it becomes obvious!. In a 2009 report by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life estimated that one in 10 adults in the U.S. was raised Catholic but has broken with the church. Its teachings on abortion, homosexuality, birth control and treatment of women were often cited as reasons.
Sounds just like the Republican Party, out of touch with the majority of its members. In the news today is a possible compromise between parties on a few gun laws. And the idiot wing of the Republican Party is already talking about filibuster. Considering a large majority of Americans wants something done it’s just another nail in the coffin of what was once the party of Lincoln. With nuts like you taking the way you do, it’s doomed.
Actually, YOU are a prime example of what's wrong period. You libs speak in terms of MOST, LARGE MAJORITY. According to the left wing media, MOST of the citizens did NOT WANT Obamacare, but it was passed anyway. HOW do you know MOST want ANYTHING????? You referenced a report from 2009. Just curious. How exactuly do you think "control" of ANYTHING is going to stop it from happening? Do you honestly think that if someone wants something bad enough, they won't be able to get it? SERIOUSLY? Explain that. It's nothing more than lip service and sucking up and playing into the government NEEDY liberals. You can't control yourselves, so you need the government to do it. And it won't change anything except CONTROL law abiding citizens who probably don't even need control. So, explain how you and your fellow lib's ideas of control will control the criminals. I can't wait! While you are at it, are you going to jump on the bandwagon for KNIFE CONTROL now? Don't tell ME that I'M the problem with the republican party. If you're so smart, why aren't YOU running for office?????? YOU are the NUT.

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Yeah, I read that earlier.
SLEAZY REPORTER: "I know!(light-bulb pops on over head!) Let's interview some die-hard Obama Haters and call it NEWS! The Republicans love it when do that! The more slanted the better! They like reading things they agree with."
lol He brought what is going on to the forefront and put it in black and white and YOU CAN'T STAND IT! You're right about one thing. It's NOT NEWS. We are well aware of how the taxpayers are being fleeced by the emperior and his empress.
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4....But this is not the topic for a banter back and forth on the merits of evolution vs intelligent design. But it would be intellectually honest to present both views to students with the pros and cons of both laid out. That would foster healthy discussion and debate.
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA041.h...
On the fundamental issues of the theory of evolution, such as the facts of common descent and natural selection, there is no scientific controversy. The "teach the controversy" campaign is an attempt to get pseudoscience taught in classrooms. Lessons about the sociological issues of the evolution-creation controversy may be appropriate in history or other nonscience classes.

If the object is to keep bad science from the classroom, the same standards should be applied to the counterarguments from creationists, which are all bad science.

There are controversies over details of evolutionary theory, such as the relative contributions of sympatric versus allopatric speciation. These controversies require a great deal of background in biology even to understand what they are about. They should not be taught to beginning students. They should be taught to graduate-level students in biology, and they are.

Evolution is almost certainly the most hated scientific theory in history. Many people think it threatens morals, civilization, and their very souls, and virtually nobody wants it to be true. Starting from the first day that Origin of Species was published, it has faced constant challenges from some of the most powerful politicians and religious leaders, not to mention incessant disapproval and attacks from the general public. The only thing evolution has going for it is the evidence. If that evidence were not extremely strong, evolution would have been torn to irreparable shreds decades ago.

Like all theories, evolution is subject to scientific attack, too. Achieving a major revision of established theory is something that many scientists dream of. Plus, many scientists feel the same emotional opposition to it that so many non-scientists do. If a credible alternative to evolution appeared, biologists would race to publish it. Indeed, scientists have made some significant revisions of details to the theory of evolution, but there has been no such race to overthrow the basic theory.

The theory of evolution is stronger than ever, accepted around the world without a hint of informed scientific challenge to the basic theory. The controversy surrounding evolution has made it one of the most scrutinized theories of all time, and evolution has withstood that scrutiny with flying colors.

Should teaching the controversy be expanded to include so-called alternatives to evolution? There are many mutually contradictory creationist positions, with disagreement on such fundamental issues as how old the universe is and which religion's book best describes the creator. Since the basis for creationism is its emotional religious appeal, and since such attraction varies between cultures and individuals, creationism will always be hopelessly controversial. Surely any lesson on the controversy should include the whole controversy.

see also...
Analysis of the Discovery Institute's Bibliography
June 1st, 2002
2002 Ohio Board of Education Science Standards
http://ncse.com/creationism/general/analysis-...

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Yea, I remember how angry you Right Wingers were when that draft dodging cowardl Bush bankrupted the country to start three wars, killed 5,000 our troops, wounded 40,000 more, and stood on an aircraft carrier taunting others to "bring it on".
Man, you were soooooooo livid.
Oh wait ... No, you Right Wingers supported that lunacy, death and economic devastation.
Obama is bringing the troops home and actually killed the guy who caused 09/11 - yep, we can't have those successes.
Right Wing Wacko Planet - where history reaches back in time at lest 20 minutes.
Obama following Bush's timeline, I believe. They are still brave soldiers being killed in Afghanistan. He has been in office almost five years. The killing continues. What do you think about that? Does Obama get a pass? Are those lives not as important?

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I don't have an agenda, other than a desire to apply common-sense and equitable responsible solutions to the problems that affect our country and the people who live here.
I DON'T like to read things that support my "agenda" if they are just pure made-up crap and gibberish. It's just a waste of time and an exercise for the weak-minded.
Of course you have an agenda. You have an extreme left wing aganda. Of course.
The article wasn't made up. It just didn't support your agenda of Obama is all good. Simple. It's no secret that Michelle, in particular, is taking advantage of the taxpayers money. You just don't like it in black and white. If you libs weren't so drunk, you'd be at least a little embarrassed.

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Too funny, you advocate that Intelligent Design is a theory worthy of scientific consideration, but state that the implied agent behind the Intelligent Design is irrelevant.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconcep...
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What I said was that "who the Designer is" is not relevant to THIS discussion. The point is that there needs FIRST be a recognition of the need for an "outside" designer. The debate over who that designer may be is secondary to THIS discussion - and this is not the forum for that secondary topic. And to repeat, you apparently missed the irony of Crick's supposition of an "alien designer" - the same questions would apply to where that alien came from - another alien race??-which amounts to an infinite regress until finally one must recognize the need for an "outside" designer.
Your examples discuss microevolution, which most (probably all) do not dispute. As I stated, macroevolution is vital for support of evolution and has yet to be evidenced.
Regarding the origin of life - again, the supporting argument is full of "can occur" "might occur" "could occur" - again suppositions, but no factual evidence.
I repeat - THIS is not the forum for this. I only responded to your dismissive post about Rick Santorum and his beliefs.

Let's agree to disagree and quit taking this down a rabbit hole - In the interest of intellectual integrity and discussion, I affirm that Intelligent Design should be presented as should the Theory of Evolution. You disagree - fair enough.

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