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To continue the point about those in need. The Left's answer is to take money from others and give it to the govt to distribute. And we have decades of experience now to show it does not help, it actually hurts those who become dependent on the system. The Right believes in people giving their own money to the charities of their choice, many of which are charities that are locally based and can give personal help to people -local resource offices that can help people with not just a check, but with connections to organizations that can help with clothes for job interviews, or perhaps training programs or child care resources so moms can work to support themselves. That is how you help people break the cycle of dependence - not by giving them a check that will just get them through the next few weeks. The old adage is very true: "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime."

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Look, we all understand that Right Wing
Philosophy by its very terms it is contrary to a Jesus' teachings.
That is just a fact. Jesus was a bleeding heart Leeeeeeeeberal.
So, maybe you have to pretend to be that damn stupid of accept that Right Wing philosophy are Anti-Christian.
"It takes a village" has been Christian dogma since the authors started writing down Jesus' words. It might be a new concept to you, but to normal folks it has been well understood and accepted.
That's what Christianity is you mental midget - a COMMUNITY of believers pledging to HELP and SUPPORT each other.
That's why the congregation is called upon the help and support the child in almost all liturgies.
Do you really think Jesus taught the "Christian" thing to do is to watch a child suffer and die for lack of food, clothing, or medical care, as long as you read the Bible to him as he suffers and dies ?
Is that what Jesus meant when he said "Suffer the little children to come into me ?" Let the little bastards suffer ?
Are you really that moronic and selfish?
You are one brave (or stupid) guy, calling Jesus a "Libtard". When that lightening hits I hope you got one of Faraday Boxes handy.
By he way, I posted the link to, and most of the language in the liturgy that specifically uses the language "Ut takes a village" in case your mind is actually incapable of understanding the linkage between a concept and words use to express that concept.
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As much as I abhor the idea of agreeing with anything you could possibly think, I do have have to agree that the quote you referenced is a good one.
Bear hunters for example fill up a trash can with donuts, then hide in the bushes with a bazooka to blow the bears innocent little head off when he stops in for breakfast.
I'd much rather see the hunter have to WEAR the donuts on his jacket, and be only armed with a pocket-knife. Then we might be able to call it a sport.
I totally agree. You aren't serious about the donuts, right? If so, that would be against the law wouldn't it? Kind of like baiting a field? Just curious.

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#6298
Apr 7, 2013
 
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Hey - Just a reminder to the right-wingers that Bush had TREMENDOUS job-losses during his last year of presidency.
Oh, and by the way - The worst economic recession this country has known in almost a 100 years happened under his Presidency after 8 years of Republican policies.
Just a reminder. I know you right-wingers often seem to forget that.
Oh, brother. Just left wing liberal crap. Obama is a failure. Own up to it. You've used the same old excuses over and over. They are worn out....just like the race card. We're not listening anymore. It's time for Obama to take responsibility. He isn't taking it and you libs aren't holding him responsible, but the rest of us are! Hey! Just a reminder to the left wingers.

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Apr 7, 2013
 
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Oh, and in case we also forget about this little tidbit -
That recession caused MASSIVE business closings and let to even more huge unemployment numbers and many Americans losing their homes.
Just a little bit of reality we should keep in mind when we talk about the state of the country and politics.
That really did happen.
Oh, and in case you've forgotten...Obama has been in office heading toward 5 YEARS!!!! Nope! NO MORE PASSES except by those who will never admit they made a mistake reelecting him. Just a little bit of reality that you left wingers should keep in mind when you start with your excuses.

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Apr 7, 2013
 
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All that did happen while George W. Bush was President of the United States of America.
It really did. So let's keep that in mind when we are discussing how great Republican Policy is, shall we?
Obama = almost 5 YEARS and things are WORSE! Let's keep THAT in mind.
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Apr 7, 2013
 
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Just before he left office in January 2003, former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura said that "going out there and putting jelly doughnuts down, and Yogi comes up and sits there and thinks he's found the mother lode for five days in a row—and then you back-shoot him from a tree?....That ain't sport. That's an assassination."

The Duluth News Tribune, the largest newspaper in northern Minnesota, where most baiting in the North Star State takes place, agreed with Ventura: "Normal people should be outraged at these practices...Bear hunters who set out sweets to attract your kill: Take a good hard look in the mirror. See if you can find a human being."
http://www.humanesociety.org/issues/bear_hunt...

http://www.bornfreeusa.org/facts.php...

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Wow - it took a liturgy that contained the exact specific, express, "word for word", and verbatim phrase: "It takes a village", to make you happy ?
The other baptism liturgies teaching that Christians have the responsibility to care and support the children of their fellow Christians were just too difficult to understand ?
Please, like the unfortunate child who accidentally signed up for Quantum Physics at M.I.T.- instead of Basic Math at the local junior college - you should just sit quietly until you have the opportunity to let the teacher know you enrolled in the wrong class.
One last attempt to force a rational thought into that hollow space located inside that depleted uranium shell called your cranium.
The concepts "Community of Christ" and "Church" and the responsibility we have to care for and support those among us who need help is a basic lesson Jesus taught and is central to Christian theology.
Just Google "It takes a village" and "Christianity" and you'll see how central it is- in fact - it is the primary teaching of Christ.
I provided four or five liturgies for baptism that acknowledge and accentuate this responsibility to care for others, and especially their children.
I could have provided dozens more, but why waste the time.
This responsibility the "Christian Community" has to others and their children has been synopsized into the phrase "It takes a village". This is a Christian concept - not a communist plot.
Since Christianity is completely altruistic and self-sacrificing, it is directly contradictory to Right Wing thought,(which is based on greed and self-interest). That makes it threatening to Right Wingers, but that's just too bad.
Please feel free continue to attack "Libtards" for professing the very beliefs expressly and unequivocally taught by Jesus Christ. You are attacking a very basic concept of Christianity, and calling Jesus a "Libtard" ain't a wise move.
Damn, I'm more Buddhist than Christian, and even I understand one of the basic tenents of the Christian religion you must accept is that "It takes a village" to be a Christian.
To paraphrase Gandhi:
I like your Christ, I do not like those who pretend to be Christians, they are so unlike your Christ.
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#6303
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What pains you so, is that;
Jesus was a flaming "Libtard". A card carrying, bleeding heart, sacrifice for others, give all that you have to the poor, "Libtard".
He expressly taught you had to sacrifice all that you have to help others, especially their children.
The Bible teaches you have the responsibility as a Christian to care and support others, including giving ALL that you have, and that those who acquire great wealth will probably never see Heaven.
Don't blame me that Right Wingers like you profess Anti-Christian propaganda. That Right Wingers enthusiastically deny everything Jesus Christ taught, and oppose the main goals of Christianity. That ain't my fault - if you don't like it - blame Jesus Christ. I didn't write the Bible - but at least I read it.
Blame yourself for being so Anti-Christian. At least radical Muslims are honest about the contempt they have for Christianity - Right Wingers hypocritically pretend to be the very thing they despise.
Damn, read the New Testament and then tell me Jusus didn't teach "It takes a village". If you still believe it doesn't, try reading a version printed in English, or read it when you are sober.
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Matthew 25: 31-46
"When I, the Messiah, shall come in glory, and all the angels with me, then I shall sit upon my throne of glory. And all the nations shall be gathered before me. And I will separate the people as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and place the sheep at my right hand, and the goats at my left.
Then I, the King, shall say to those at my right, "Come, blessed of my Father, into the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world. For I was hungry and you fed me; I was thirsty and you gave me water; I was a stranger and you invited me into your homes; naked and you clothed me; sick and in prison, and you visited me."
Then these righteous ones will reply, "Sir, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you anything to drink? Or a stranger, and help you? Or naked, and clothe you? When did we ever see you sick or in prison, and visit you?" And I, the King, will tell them, "When you did it to these my brothers you were doing it to me!"
Then I will turn to those on my left and say, "Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons. For I was hungry and you wouldn't feed me; thirsty, and you wouldn't give me anything to drink; a stranger, and you refused me hospitality; naked, and you wouldn't clothe me; sick, and in prison, and you didn't visit me."
Then they will reply, "Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?"
And I will answer, "When you refused to help the least of these my brothers, you were refusing help to me." And they shall go away into eternal punishment; but the righteous into everlasting life."
Yep, it's cant be that Right Wing beliefs are Anti-Christian - it must be that I "hate" Right Wingers.
Man, am I good, 2000 years ago I stuck all that stuff in the Bible just to cover for my "hatred".
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#6305
Apr 7, 2013
 
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Obama = almost 5 YEARS and things are WORSE! Let's keep THAT in mind.
No. Five years and things are WAY BETTER than they were. At least MOST people have jobs, the economy didn't completely crash, the employment situation has taken a reverse heading and Bin Laden is dead. There's at least a BIT of regulation on Wall Street, women have a better chance of achieving better pay through the Lilly Ledbetter Act, millions of young people are now insured and massive reforms are occurring in the health-care conglomerates.

Bush didn't do that. The TEA PARTY didn't do that. The 112th Congress didn't do that. Boehner SURE didn't do that as all he's been busy doing is repeatedly voting to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act,(it's almost like he doesn't like most Americans!), Sarah Palin didn't achieve those things, John McCain didn't achieve those things, and Mitt Romney didn't achieve those things.

It took Obama. He's yer super-hero. You know it.

http://www.theblogmocracy.com/wp-content/uplo...
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Obama = almost 5 YEARS and things are WORSE! Let's keep THAT in mind.
Not worse.

Remember when everybody was leaving Wall STreet with boxes of their stuff in hand?

Remember when it looked like almost everybody was going to have to get their next meal from a soup kitchen?

Remember when congressmen were meeting outside the Capitol building in panic because America almost ceased to exist?

Obama fixed it. You should send him a letter of thanks.

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No. Five years and things are WAY BETTER than they were. At least MOST people have jobs, the economy didn't completely crash, the employment situation has taken a reverse heading and Bin Laden is dead. There's at least a BIT of regulation on Wall Street, women have a better chance of achieving better pay through the Lilly Ledbetter Act, millions of young people are now insured and massive reforms are occurring in the health-care conglomerates.
Bush didn't do that. The TEA PARTY didn't do that. The 112th Congress didn't do that. Boehner SURE didn't do that as all he's been busy doing is repeatedly voting to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act,(it's almost like he doesn't like most Americans!), Sarah Palin didn't achieve those things, John McCain didn't achieve those things, and Mitt Romney didn't achieve those things.
It took Obama. He's yer super-hero. You know it.
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/wp-content/uplo...
OMG! STEP AWAY FROM THE CRACK PIPE!!!!!!!!!!

You should take this post to Comedy Central.

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Oh, and in case you've forgotten...Obama has been in office heading toward 5 YEARS!!!! Nope! NO MORE PASSES except by those who will never admit they made a mistake reelecting him. Just a little bit of reality that you left wingers should keep in mind when you start with your excuses.
Hey, Synergy
Can you imagine the ridicule from the media if a Republican president who had been in office for over 4 years was still blaming his predecessor? It would be night after night of "when is this president going to quit pointing at the other kids on the playground and man up." Of course this administration takes responsibility for NOTHING. Benghazi - don't blame Obama, he had gone to bed - oh, imagine the field day the media would have had if that were a Republican president who had gone to bed while a consulate was under attack - and then to have gone to a fund raiser after we find out four Americans had been killed - including our Ambassador. That would have been the top story for weeks. Guns being allowed to go untracked into Mexico, resulting in the death of a border patrol agent - there would be screams from the media for an investigation if it were under a Republican - instead virtual silence. Dismal job creation and a horrible unemployment rate, yawn.
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Dismal job creation and a horrible unemployment rate, yawn.
Come on Aggie.

Look at the pretty picture and tell me if you see a pattern.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6812356495...

Any pattern? Anything at all?
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Synergy wrote:
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OMG! STEP AWAY FROM THE CRACK PIPE!!!!!!!!!!
You should take this post to Comedy Central.
Hey Amirite? Amirite?

You know I'm not lying. It's all true, Baby!
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Apr 7, 2013
 
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To continue the point about those in need. The Left's answer is to take money from others and give it to the govt to distribute. And we have decades of experience now to show it does not help, it actually hurts those who become dependent on the system. The Right believes in people giving their own money to the charities of their choice, many of which are charities that are locally based and can give personal help to people -local resource offices that can help people with not just a check, but with connections to organizations that can help with clothes for job interviews, or perhaps training programs or child care resources so moms can work to support themselves. That is how you help people break the cycle of dependence - not by giving them a check that will just get them through the next few weeks. The old adage is very true: "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime."
Both political parties are missing the point. If you want to get out of poverty, you have to teach and reinforce innovation, so that people know how to make something out of nothing. That is what we have moved away from, and we do it with excessive paper, and layers of red tape. Government teaches that it is better to live on the system, then to live off of the system. Complicating all of it, is this "democrat", "republican" party affiliation, instead of focussing on our core values as Americans. We have models for the industrial revolution. We are missing models for our population today. You cannot live in America in pure capitalism- all the wealth will go to the few at the top. You cannot live with pure socialism/communism, you will destroy innovation and motivation. We have to find ways to blend the two, and we can't do that until we get out of the "republican", "democrat", party affiliation, where we stay stuck. Paralyzed might be the better word.

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ChicknButt wrote:
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No. Five years and things are WAY BETTER than they were. At least MOST people have jobs, the economy didn't completely crash, the employment situation has taken a reverse heading and Bin Laden is dead. There's at least a BIT of regulation on Wall Street, women have a better chance of achieving better pay through the Lilly Ledbetter Act, millions of young people are now insured and massive reforms are occurring in the health-care conglomerates.
Bush didn't do that. The TEA PARTY didn't do that. The 112th Congress didn't do that. Boehner SURE didn't do that as all he's been busy doing is repeatedly voting to repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act,(it's almost like he doesn't like most Americans!), Sarah Palin didn't achieve those things, John McCain didn't achieve those things, and Mitt Romney didn't achieve those things.
It took Obama. He's yer super-hero. You know it.
http://www.theblogmocracy.com/wp-content/uplo...
Better - not hardly. For so long, people have looked at Obama's presidency as a continuation of another disastrous president - Jimmy Carter,but now Obama is looking more and more like FDR, whose policies extended the Depression far longer than it should have been and it looks like Obama's polices will extend this recession in the same way with illogical Keynesian policies of "spend our way to prosperity" when any economist worth his pay knows that does not work. And please don't try and pass off that tired old argument about women only receiving 75% in pay compared to what a man gets.
Any one who has ever looked at the data knows that statistic is a misleading lie. It does not take into account education, years worked, time taken off for child rearing or actual job descriptions. When all those variables are taken into account the worst that can be said is a woman makes 98% of what a comparable man makes, some show the woman making 105% compared to the man's 100%.

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Not worse.
Remember when everybody was leaving Wall STreet with boxes of their stuff in hand?
Remember when it looked like almost everybody was going to have to get their next meal from a soup kitchen?
Remember when congressmen were meeting outside the Capitol building in panic because America almost ceased to exist?
Obama fixed it. You should send him a letter of thanks.
Seriously, how does one GET as brainwashed as you? Look at what Obama is doing now with the loans for homes to those with weak credit???? Oh, my gosh! That's what got us here in the first place. Now, start with the excuses and support. UGH.

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ChicknButt wrote:
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Not worse.
Remember when everybody was leaving Wall STreet with boxes of their stuff in hand?
Remember when it looked like almost everybody was going to have to get their next meal from a soup kitchen?
Remember when congressmen were meeting outside the Capitol building in panic because America almost ceased to exist?
Obama fixed it. You should send him a letter of thanks.
Just the debt is enough. Consider the joblessness, taxes, healthcare, etc. Seriously, no one is listening. Obama is responsible. It's his watch. He wanted this, he got it and IT"S HIS. If a conservative were doing this junk, you libs would be killing people in the streets. Your double standard is astounding.

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