Daphne Dixie Youth Baseball: Fun? Really?

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“Making it Right”

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#1 Jun 4, 2008
You must abide by the rules. That is, if you make them up "on the fly." This years corruption has been epic, depending on who you speak to. To discuss this situation, we must address what the art of sandbagging is and how it is defined. In the realm of Daphne Dixie Youth baseball, I shall add the definition according to Wikipedia, for your perusal.

Sandbagging as a term may be derived from the practice of creating protective dams and temporary levees with sandbags in flood situations (to hold back or redirect). Thus, in games and adversarial settings, to "sandbag" is to intentionally understate one's strength, with the intention of deceiving one's opponents into overreaching. The sandbagger can then reveal a hidden strength to take the opponent by surprise. The usage has been noted in Demolition Derby, when drivers refuse to be aggressive or pretend to have mechanical problems or both until the last two or three cars are running and then their car will start running just fine or they become more aggressive or both; in poker, when a player with a strong hand bets small amounts to persuade opponents to stay in the game; and in golf, where a "sandbagger" is someone who misrepresents his handicap to gain an advantage over other players.

“Making it Right”

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#2 Jun 6, 2008
There has been rampant cheating relative to the makeup of teams in this league for years. Most of it has to do with the draft and tryout process, thus allowing teams to "handpick" players from questionable grading of players.

Here is just one rule the Daphne Dixie Youth league decided to change from the national Dixie Youth rule book.

The draft, the board and Daphne Dixie Youth Baseball (DDYB) Draft Rule 4.3

Rule 4.3 States,“The commissioner of the league will ASSIGN a team to the Head Coaches. Returning coaches will have the right to retain the same team as the previous year.”

I will explain how this is a perfect example of how board members and certain coaches make up their own rules for their own personal gain and is one of many reasons major changes need to take place or the City of Daphne needs to take over immediately since adults cant' make it fun and fair for our kids.
This is a blatant violation and allows for unfair distribution of teams and players. It affects the balance of fair makeup of teams and allows for one division to have a strong all-star team as well as make the other all-star team much weaker. It is premeditated. It is in direct violation of DDYB 4.1 whick is a variation of national guidelines which states,“Restocking of teams in Daphne Dixie Youth Baseball will be made through a drafting process and to the extent possible will insure BALANCE AND COMPETITIVE TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE.
WHY IS OUR LEAGUE CHANGING NATIONAL GUIDELINES, WHEN THOSE GUIDELINES WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO ALLOW FOR FAIRNESS AND BALANCE? THE INTENTION OF THE NATIONAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF DIXIE YOUTH BASEBALL ON PAGE 9 OF THE 2007 OFFICIAL RULES AND REGULATIONS STATES,“The imposition of any rule on a local league should be done with the upmost reluctance and absolute necessity.” Our new league rule, amoungst others, is not only a disgrace but was it really necessary? Absolutely not. I suppose a weak argument for this rule would be it would allow a coach who liked the name of his team to keep that name. Is that the reason we made a rule for this? I hope and pray, the answer is no.
yoyomama

Daphne, AL

#3 Jun 15, 2008
Abideth wrote:
There has been rampant cheating relative to the makeup of teams in this league for years. Most of it has to do with the draft and tryout process, thus allowing teams to "handpick" players from questionable grading of players.
Here is just one rule the Daphne Dixie Youth league decided to change from the national Dixie Youth rule book.
The draft, the board and Daphne Dixie Youth Baseball (DDYB) Draft Rule 4.3
Rule 4.3 States,“The commissioner of the league will ASSIGN a team to the Head Coaches. Returning coaches will have the right to retain the same team as the previous year.”
I will explain how this is a perfect example of how board members and certain coaches make up their own rules for their own personal gain and is one of many reasons major changes need to take place or the City of Daphne needs to take over immediately since adults cant' make it fun and fair for our kids.
This is a blatant violation and allows for unfair distribution of teams and players. It affects the balance of fair makeup of teams and allows for one division to have a strong all-star team as well as make the other all-star team much weaker. It is premeditated. It is in direct violation of DDYB 4.1 whick is a variation of national guidelines which states,“Restocking of teams in Daphne Dixie Youth Baseball will be made through a drafting process and to the extent possible will insure BALANCE AND COMPETITIVE TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE.
WHY IS OUR LEAGUE CHANGING NATIONAL GUIDELINES, WHEN THOSE GUIDELINES WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO ALLOW FOR FAIRNESS AND BALANCE? THE INTENTION OF THE NATIONAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF DIXIE YOUTH BASEBALL ON PAGE 9 OF THE 2007 OFFICIAL RULES AND REGULATIONS STATES,“The imposition of any rule on a local league should be done with the upmost reluctance and absolute necessity.” Our new league rule, amoungst others, is not only a disgrace but was it really necessary? Absolutely not. I suppose a weak argument for this rule would be it would allow a coach who liked the name of his team to keep that name. Is that the reason we made a rule for this? I hope and pray, the answer is no.
Let me guess. Your kid must be on a losing team? Are you a coach perhaps and your team has a bad record?? Poor sportsmanship?? I do hope if you are a coach out there that my son NEVER ends up on your team. There were quite a few..one who was somewhat large...who carried on on the sidelines with the ranting, mouthing off, etc. Tacky.
justice4all

Huntsville, AL

#4 Jun 16, 2008
So...just because you see that a rule is written in a book, does not mean that it has been implemented. There are lots of rules in the Daphne DDYB book that could be used to someone's advantage and they are not being used. The particular "new" rule that is mentioned by Abideth was NOT even used and never has been used, to my knowledge. So, why even bring that up? Is someone grasping at straws as to why their team did not live up to their expectations? Is someone saying that their child and the children on their team do not have as much talent and ability as the rest of the children in their league? The teams were picked by the coaches at a draft, where the rightful children were picked in the rightful round. The parents involved are trying very hard to make the seasons fair for all. I don't see too many people stepping up to take on the responsibilities that keep your park going and does all this work so that your child can have a place to play and grow. What do YOU contribute to this park? Do you stay late and clean up? Do you take time away from your family to prepare documents and schedules and family day activities? Do not speak up unless you are willing to STEP UP!

“Making it Right”

Since: Jun 08

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#5 Jun 16, 2008
How ya doin' yoyo? Yes, no and no.

My kid WAS on a losing team. Correct. The league placed my kid on a team that practiced one time during the season. My son has made all-stars every year he has played, and actually played on FIVE teams last year and I coached four of them. I have been out of town this year and did not coach. Relative to coaching your son, "Your son would learn how to win AND lose if I coached him, although the latter would not happen that often. He would learn the game of baseball, not the drizzle that some coaches "offer up" as baseball that can only win because their lineup has older kids on their team." Why so much hatred for someone who is trying to right a wrong?

Let me get this right. You would rather have your son on a team with a coach that sandbags (cheats) and isn't man enough to 'fess up, or, have a coach that doesn't cheat and really teach your son baseball and how it relates to life. Obviously, you haven't had a son on my team or you wouldn't make a statement like that.

I assume you are a concerned parent. If so, you may want to heed some advice and read my posts and I'll be happy to answer all questions. Your latest post was more of a "search mission" it appeared and more vile and argumentable than it was related to and concerning any point in my thread.

“Making it Right”

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#6 Jun 16, 2008
So glad to see two people who are searching for justice and some abiding. Before I continue on my rant about the DDYB league, let me answer or try to, some of your comments.
First. Aren't rules and ALL rules meant to be implemented. Sure they are. That is unless you have a better way, which the league doesn't. It actually allows for considerable cheating. Here's your quote, "So...just because you see that a rule is written in a book, does not mean that it has been implemented." Need I even answer that. Logically, ALL rules in the national rules and regs book for Dixie Youth Baseball must be fully followed to the extent of the rule or law. Did the Daphne Dixie Youth Baseball league make up it's own rules? It sure stinkin' did. And, most if not all were used to help out other teams, coaches and board members potentially. Daphne implemented rules that the national organization emphatically ordered all organizations NOT to do, that is of course, they had a better way.
WHY IS OUR LEAGUE CHANGING NATIONAL GUIDELINES, WHEN THOSE GUIDELINES WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO ALLOW FOR FAIRNESS AND BALANCE? THE INTENTION OF THE NATIONAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF DIXIE YOUTH BASEBALL ON PAGE 9 OF THE 2007 OFFICIAL RULES AND REGULATIONS STATES,“The imposition of any rule on a local league should be done with the upmost reluctance and absolute necessity.” Our new league rule, amoungst others, is not only a disgrace but was it really necessary? Absolutely not. I suppose a weak argument for this rule would be it would allow a coach who liked the name of his team to keep that name. Is that the reason we made a rule for this? I hope and pray, the answer is no.
Page 8 of the same book states,“There shall be no State Constitution or By-Laws in conflict, with the intent, aims, purposes and rules of the National Dixie Youth Baseball organization.” Why would the commissioner of this league feel the need to assign a team name to head coaches? What purpose is having returning coaches have the same name? Do they really want to be the Cardinals or the Indians, that badly?
Your next quote goes on by saying,"There are lots of rules in the Daphne DDYB book that could be used to someone's advantage and they are not being used." I'm confused. Are you for the rule
or against it. BELIEVE ME, I ALREADY KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF RULES FROM THE DDYB THAT SOMEONE COULD USE TO THEIR ADVANTAGE!!!!! Your quote almost implies that cheating could be taking place. I'll quit beating around the proverbial bush and say it's definately happening. If there are "lots of rules that can be used to certain teams advantage" as you said, then why would we replace the current rule that works with a new sneaky one that doesn't.

“Making it Right”

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#7 Jun 16, 2008
Changing National Rules
“Rule changes suggested by LOCAL, district, state, or national DYB officials during the season shall be mailed directly to the Deputy Commissioner no later than June 1 of the current year.” This is noted under Democratic Action of the same book(the national book). Is there proof this process had been done? Based on another new rule in question, the extra inning of play in tie games rule, I have seen nothing specific at all. Was this rule discussed? To me, it sounds like a fair rule if it was integrated at the beginning of the year, but it was not in print and (it’s not in the DDYB hand out) not enforced, and if it hasn’t been anything but discussed, then you can’t start enforcing it now( 8 weeks into the season) My guess is the National Board would dismiss these changes, not add them in the national guidelines, but, possibly would allow the local organization to implement these rules assuming the local board used “the upmost reluctance and absolute necessity” when they thought of these rule changes. The real question(s) is,“were these potential changes submitted to the national board and, if so, what was the boards conclusion(s). WERE THEY REALLY ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AND DONE WITH THE UPMOST RELUCTANCE. Answer: Absolutely not!
Your next quote, "The particular "new" rule that is mentioned by Abideth was NOT even used and never has been used, to my knowledge." It was used. The league either abided by the national rule or the way the national board intended teams to be assigned or it used its own "better" (a-hem) version. Three teams had the same coaches, majority of their core players and were even, believe it or not, in the same division. These same three coaches were in the same situation two years ago on the National division of coach-pitch. Coincidence? Please. The rule give the commissioner (WHO WAS ALSO ONE OF THE COACHES), FULL AUTHORITY TO HANDPICK WHERE AND WHAT TEAMS ARE NAMED. You think theres maybe a sight coincidece that the commissioner put the same three coaches in the division AGAIN??????? It's clear, crystal clear.

“Making it Right”

Since: Jun 08

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#8 Jun 16, 2008
Justice said, "Is someone grasping at straws as to why their team did not live up to their expectations? Is someone saying that their child and the children on their team do not have as much talent and ability as the rest of the children in their league." No to "grasping" and no to "talent and ability." Do you think it's fair that a team with six all-stars on its team would have ZERO this year? How could a team go from 6 All-Stars in one year to NONE.
You typed all these questions implying my kids can't play, they have no ability (that's what you said), and their team stunk. But you failed to add the most important point. And that is COACHING. This league wasted 11 boys' spring (yeah, someones got to lose), with a coach that practice ONE TIME and Justice, you want me to actually believe it was because they had no talent. This league and it's corruption screwed my boys because they put anybody with a pulse to "coach" with no experience and alcohol on his breath part of the time. I would be disgraced to have such an imbalance of talent and cheating, be it overt or not, if it were my league.
"The teams were picked by the coaches at a draft, where the rightful children were picked in the rightful round." Another naive quote that some slick sandbagger want you to believe. I've coached coach-pitch to mens teams and I can tell you that not only is the draft a farce but the tryout grading process it equally corrupt. More on that later. I think I've given you enough to digest on for now. I appreciate you listening and agree most parents as well as myself, you can be assured, want a fair and fun league.....for all.

You said, "Why bring it up." Justice for all, what else. All I want when I coach is a fair shot of landing a kid in a draft and a chance to teach a child how to play a game that I love. I could care less about winning, but I hate losing when no preparation (coaching) is taking place. That moves us to stray grasping.
Not A Chance

Mobile, AL

#9 Jun 16, 2008
Good evening Abideth. First of all, I know you and I know you all too well - thus the name "Not A Chance" as I have seen you in action, and there is "not a chance" that I would allow my son to play on a team you coached. I must admit that he has been on an all star team you assisted with (before I knew you), and he learned more in the first five minutes with his coaches the next year than he learned from you in several weeks.

In fact, my son thought about giving up the game after his experience with you. It was quite embarrassing for the entire city of Daphne with the way you carried on at practice games as well as during the tournament. It was obvious you didn't even know some of the most basic rules of the game. In fact, you couldn't explain the basics of baseball to a child if your life depended on it.

You should also probably admit that the reason you weren't coaching this year was not because you were "out of town", but because you were told you would not be allowed to coach because of your actions from the previous year(s).

Someone else hit the nail on the head when they said your son was on a team that didn't do so well (which I must admire you readily admitted), and you are just spouting your sour grapes. It would seem that a man of your "vast self proclaimed baseball knowledge" would have been able to impact the team in a more positive manner - if only as a parent on the sidelines (Oh, I forgot, you were "out of town").

I find it amusing that you rant on about coaches but admit that when you were the coach, your son made the all star teams almost every year. Now, now, isn't that just what you are whining about in your rantings - the coaches kids being favored? Oh, I guess your son can be an all star, but the sons of the other coaches cannot.

You know, the sad thing is that your son has talent, but the longer he absorbs your poor attitude, the tougher it is going to be on him to fit in in life. My guess is your pushing will burn him out way before his prime. Do the child a favor and keep you thoughts to yourself. If you only knew how many people out there wouldn't let their child play if you were the coach, you might actually realize what a detriment you are to the local baseball environment.

By the way, the expression is "I couldn't care less", not "I could care less". If you could care less, then you obviously care some. Just thought you would like to know the correct expresssion if you want to use it in the future.

Have a good day.

“Making it Right”

Since: Jun 08

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#10 Jun 17, 2008

Justice's quote said, "But the real reason was that none of the parents could stand his coaching and how he treated their child."

That's weird; I was told the league president said it was the former "excuse, due to getting tossed out of a game. I suppose she was being honest with the guy. But, I guess the league decided to make and use rules that only applied to certain people and not all. Kinda like communist China. I actually think you really don't see anything wrong with enforcing laws for the "trash" in society but that the holy notables can "get off" scot-free. Isn't it ironic that the commissioner AND the vice president of the league got thrown out of games and nothing, no nothing happened to them. I call that a double standard. Wouldn't you......JUSTICE.

It's even more interesting that you opened your argument justifying, well, here's how you said it, "So...just because you see that a rule is written in a book, does not mean that it has been implemented." Really. Sorry Justice, but that is about the most foolish statement that a board member could say. That just because the rules are written in your rule book they shouldn't be or were not implemented. I understand if a dropped third strike play NEVER occurred in a game, the rule needent be implemented, it's not that hard. This simple rule 4.3 allows the commissioner to pick teams. YOU REALLY DON'T SEE A PROBLEM IN THIS?

Yet, more holes in the argument of making up new rules. You said, "There are lots of rules in the Daphne DYB book that could be used to someone's advantage and they are not being used." Can you explain why your board, who, by the way, many were the winning coaches, would make rules that would or could be used to give someone an advantage? Believe me; I already know there is a boatload of bogus rules and funny stuff going on it your league. It's not my league. Well actually it is, you just don't get it. The league is for the kids and parents not board members with issues against a select few.

Why does a league feel the need to revamp new rules, rules that were made by the national organization that when written, were to be enforced to the letter of the law?

Here is but one, only one rule. Rule 4.3 States,“The commissioner of the league will ASSIGN a team to the Head Coaches. Returning coaches will have the right to retain the same team as the previous year.”
I will explain how this is a perfect example of how board members and certain coaches make up their own rules for their own personal gain and is one of many reasons the City of Daphne needs to take over immediately.
This is a blatant violation and allows for unfair distribution of teams and players. It affects the balance of fair makeup of teams and allows for one division to have a strong all-star team as well as make the other all-star team much weaker. It is premeditated. It is in direct violation of DDYB 4.1 which states,“Restocking of teams in Daphne Dixie Youth Baseball will be made through a drafting process and to the extent possible will insure BALANCE AND COMPETITIVE TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE.
Justice4All78

Huntsville, AL

#11 Jun 17, 2008
How could a team go from 6 All-Stars to None...I will tell you...if all your All-Stars are 1st year players and there is a stronger group of talented kids who are 2nd year players then you could easily fill 12 spots without needing any of the 1st year kids. I do agree that coaching is very important, but where are all the parents of these children and why didn't they step up and take some responsibility and try to help with the coaching?

Sandbagging? A good coach who has a child in the system and has been in the system from the beginning knows who the good players are…they have seen them play and progress over the years. There are children who stand out and have obvious talent or potential. So…this sandbagging thing can only be accomplished if all of the coaches involved in rating the children during the draft have no idea of what each child’s potential is.

The commissioner has NEVER gotten thrown out of a game…I find it fascinating that you have to lie to try and make a point!

The rule is “4.3 The Commissioner of the League will assign a team to Head Coaches. Returning coaches will have the right to retain the same team as the previous year.” Do you think that the Returning coaches should have the right to retain the same team as the previous year? This rule WAS not used and from my understanding the coaches were given the option of what team name they wanted and NO coach retained their team from the previous year. If they were lucky, they were able to pick up some of the kids they had last year in the draft, but even that was very few. And how could picking names before the teams are already drafted have any bearing on the strengths of the leagues? No one knows which kid is going to end up where and in which league until after the kids are chosen. Unless you are saying that the small group of protected players by those coaches are the BEST kids in the whole league and therefore are giving one All Star team an advantage over the other. Then you are saying that your child and the rest of the children in your league are inferior in talent to these children. I for one, having a child in the other league do not appreciate you saying that my child and their All Star team is inferior to the other team!

And once again, you have side stepped my questions from the following:“The parents involved are trying very hard to make the seasons fair for all. I don't see too many people stepping up to take on the responsibilities that keep your park going and does all this work so that your child can have a place to play and grow. What do YOU contribute to this park? Do you stay late and clean up? Do you take time away from your family to prepare documents and schedules and family day activities? Do not speak up unless you are willing to STEP UP!”

By the way,“Not A Chance”, I would like to buy you a drink!
yoyomama

United States

#12 Jun 17, 2008
I'll buy you one too "chance". It sounds to me like Abideth is nothing but a sore loser. My son's coach was the best coach he has ever had. Period. He learned things about baseball and he learned so much about sportsmanship. And the whole cheating thing is just very funny to me. This was our first year at the Daphne park and it was such a positive experience. We were in the majors. I observed some of the other coaches on other teams and there was no comparison to our coaches. I was shocked to observe some of the ranting, throwing of hats, marching and pacing around, mouthing off to coaches on the opposing team, etc. I am hoping these type coaches are few and far between out there.
yoyomama

United States

#13 Jun 17, 2008
Oh yeah. I forgot. If I were you I wouldn't reference wikipedia. Everyone knows it is not a reliable source of information. But then again....there ya go.

“Making it Right”

Since: Jun 08

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#14 Jun 18, 2008
More from the world of the haters....

Lady, I coached four teams last year. I call that stepping up.

Lady. "time from my family," Yes I do, dear. Four teams, by myself. Yes, That would be affirmative.

I wouldn't call that lying, at all, there was no intent to lie. I was wrong, I suppose, if it never happened. I was told it did. But, all I know if it happened, that's what I was told,and I think that quite a few were tossed from games this year. Again. I will address that in a later post. Sorry, again.

....and by the way, if there is a wrapper on the ground, I'll pick it up, or, if you need a mound tamped or the field raked, which I've done a few times this year, you know, you can always count on me.

And, remember. All I was this year, was a simple, caring, hard working parent. You know. Just like you.

How do I contribute to this park? Well, let's see.

I coached, mind you, one team in our league, the All star team, a travel team of nearly all Daphne players, many players from this league come to my home to hit, this blog in and of itself is contributing to the league, I have a son in the league, I go to games and support the league even though my son wasn't playing, I've been asked to put banners on the fences to support the finances of the league and the league dropped the ball on that, I've coached travel-ball teams with the only intent to help kids from Daphne and was ridiculed for that, I've contacted numerous financial contributors and have collected thousands of dollars to benefit players regardless of the color of their skin or if they go to Bayside Academy, so they could play baseball...previously annoymously, I've spent endless hours practicing and teaching on and off the field, I purchased a pitching machine from Coach Hutch at Daphne HS and contributed a nice sum to him, I've supported Fairhope HS by giving money for services rendered to Coach Fuller, I've supported Baker HS and have a banner on their field and in Mobile I've given financial contributions to TWO T-ball all-star teams and another 12-13 year old travel team, and I with the past commissioner and the current president herself (in the parking lot at Lott park), took cars and vans to University of South Alabama baseball games and birthday parties, when I could have just taken my family to the game myself, and I've been given the unique opportunity to coach hundreds of boys,with dozens of them receiving college scholarships and signing professional contracts. Many of them own and teach baseball from their facilities and some are local MLB scouts.

That's FIVE other teams I have no affiliation with.

But more than that, I'm just a baseball coach who loves to teach and watch a child learn, grow and evolve into the person that they may one day turn out to be, hoping that one day, they can remember what a 6-4-3 double play is, the silly, life molding baseball stories that I tell them during practice and that maybe, just maybe, one day, they can tell their son or daughter those stories and remember the sap who told it to them.

“Making it Right”

Since: Jun 08

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#15 Jun 18, 2008
I totally agree with you "yoyo". I was a parent this year. I'm happy for you that you had a great coach and a wonderful time. I suppose that your team did very well too. But nobody seems to care about the deafening loss of numbers of players at lott park. What did you have 5 or 6 teams? T-ball can start around 200 or more if promoted better and ends with 50 kids by the time their eleven. That my dear, is abysmal.

Nobody seems to be interested if an average or below avg. player is on a losing team and quits in the middle of the league. Or, if he's on a winning team and quits. More on that later on another post.

Don't know where you are going with the Wikipedia post, other than I assume you felt as if I did go there. No, I didn't. I think, I don't know for sure , that the previous poster may have used incompetech.com . I've have seen that sites information on the phrase "I could care less" but have not used the wiki site. That being said I don't totally agree with the previous posters and imcompetech discription and definitions. Words and phrases have more than one meaning or angle (I can't think of a better word). The previous coach/poster used the postulate that if I could care less, then at least I cared some or, there was some caring that has taken place. Can you care less than not at all? I believe so. I believe although not physically possible, you can prove your point by implying that you care even less than even possible. That's a lot of less. Ha ha. Headache yet?

Why is it that people on the internet feel as if they can establish what another person is implying and print it as "what I was saying" when nothing was stated in that regard.

This was Justices quote. "Then you are saying that your child and the rest of the children in your league are inferior in talent to these children. I for one, having a child in the other league do not appreciate you saying that my child and their All Star team is inferior to the other team!"

Hello? Hello? Anyone out there? Who said that? Lets hold a "mind meld."

Have you spoken to your therapist lately about this hidden anger. We can stinkin' hold hands together and hold a mantra since you have the ability to feel and manipulate anyones thoughts. Hiding behind the guile of a computer screen makes people be real jerks. Please don't bring up my child because I have never brought up anyones elses and have never said or implied your babble anyway. Lady. I've scouted in MLB longer than you have probably held your last position. I take issue when someone cowardly makes false accusations of me, the talent of the rest of the players in the league, and especially, my son. Wouldn't you? What the heck do you know about judging talent?
Justice4All78

Huntsville, AL

#16 Jun 18, 2008
It sounds like you have lots of avenues to explore your love of baseball. If you are so unhappy with the Daphne DYB, then why not take your son and all your coaching skills and play baseball somewhere else? Spread the love, man...you need to venture out and touch the lives of everyone you can with your kind words and wisdom. Watch the children blossom under your careful guidance and pass on your passion for baseball.

You have a blessed and beautiful day ;~)
As far a judging people go, I do not have to defend anything I said, because I was not judging anyone. As a matter of fact, I am VERY HAPPY with Daphne DYB and am not the one feeling so 'Jobbed' that I have to vent my feelings out in a public forum.

“Making it Right”

Since: Jun 08

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#17 Jun 18, 2008
Cheating..........

It is typical in youth sports to have a tryout followed by a draft. During the draft, each coach tries to outdo the other coaches at drafting the best team. Indeed, much of the efforts to outdo opposing coaches involve cheating, like recruiting as assistant coaches the fathers of one or two likely early-round draft choices or telling a strong prospect to skip the tryout or to deliberately look bad in the tryout so the coach who knows his true ability can draft him lower than that player would normally go.

Typically, the cheaters are the long-term coaches in the league. Every year there are new guys who have no clue the cheating is going on until they have seen it for a few years. Then, they typically become one of the cheaters.

Blind = parity
All youth sports drafts should be blind. That is, all the coaches in the league should create teams that are as equal in ability as possible, then the teams will be assigned at random to the coaches. Since the head coach will be allowed to have his own son on his team, in many cases, one other player originally on that coach’s assigned team will have to be transferred to another team to restore the parity upset when a coach’s son has above-average or below-average talent.

In a blind draft, when the coaches are creating the teams, they do not know whether they are creating their own team or one they will have to compete against. Indeed, they do know that all but one of the teams will be opponents. Consequently, they will have great incentive to use all their knowledge to create teams that are as equal as possible.

Now were getting somewhere in the thread. It will be interesting to see the comments on this one!
Justice4All78

Huntsville, AL

#18 Jun 18, 2008
By the way…your NEW rule was listed in the rule book back in 2006 and possibly the books previous to that. So, how, in 2008, is this a NEW rule?
Abideth said:
“I totally agree with you "yoyo". I was a parent this year. I'm happy for you that you had a great coach and a wonderful time. I suppose that your team did very well too. But nobody seems to care about the deafening loss of numbers of players at lott park. What did you have 5 or 6 teams? T-ball can start around 200 or more if promoted better and ends with 50 kids by the time their eleven. That my dear, is abysmal.”
There were 10 teams in Majors this year and don’t forget that half those T-ball kids that start in the system are Girls and often go on to play softball! T-ball is a time to test the waters and give the child a chance to see if baseball is something they would be interested in pursuing. Baseball is not for every kid. There is obviously a natural progression of less kids per year, as the kids grow older and find different interests. Not to mention that there is only 1 baseball team for the schools they will attend and obviously 200 kids will not be on it.
Abideth said:
“Don't know where you are going with the Wikipedia post, other than I assume you felt as if I did go there. No, I didn't. I think, I don't know for sure , that the previous poster may have used incompetech.com . I've have seen that sites information on the phrase "I could care less" but have not used the wiki site.”
Abideth’s first quote at the beginning of this thread:
“You must abide by the rules. That is, if you make them up "on the fly." This years corruption has been epic, depending on who you speak to. To discuss this situation, we must address what the art of sandbagging is and how it is defined. In the realm of Daphne Dixie Youth baseball, I shall add the definition according to Wikipedia, for your perusal.
Sandbagging as a term may be derived from the practice of creating protective dams and temporary levees with sandbags in flood situations (to hold back or redirect). Thus, in games and adversarial settings, to "sandbag" is to intentionally understate one's strength, with the intention of deceiving one's opponents into overreaching. The sandbagger can then reveal a hidden strength to take the opponent by surprise. The usage has been noted in Demolition Derby, when drivers refuse to be aggressive or pretend to have mechanical problems or both until the last two or three cars are running and then their car will start running just fine or they become more aggressive or both; in poker, when a player with a strong hand bets small amounts to persuade opponents to stay in the game; and in golf, where a "sandbagger" is someone who misrepresents his handicap to gain an advantage over other players.”
Justice4All78

Huntsville, AL

#19 Jun 18, 2008
Abideth said:
“Have you spoken to your therapist lately about this hidden anger. We can stinkin' hold hands together and hold a mantra since you have the ability to feel and manipulate anyones thoughts. Hiding behind the guile of a computer screen makes people be real jerks. Please don't bring up my child because I have never brought up anyones elses and have never said or implied your babble anyway. Lady. I've scouted in MLB longer than you have probably held your last position. I take issue when someone cowardly makes false accusations of me, the talent of the rest of the players in the league, and especially, my son. Wouldn't you? What the heck do you know about judging talent?”
Helloooo go back and read your previous blogs…Abideth said:
“Here is but one, only one rule. Rule 4.3 States,“The commissioner of the league will ASSIGN a team to the Head Coaches. Returning coaches will have the right to retain the same team as the previous year.”
I will explain how this is a perfect example of how board members and certain coaches make up their own rules for their own personal gain and is one of many reasons the City of Daphne needs to take over immediately.
This is a blatant violation and allows for unfair distribution of teams and players. It affects the balance of fair makeup of teams and allows for one division to have a strong all-star team as well as make the other all-star team much weaker.”
Who needs to speak to their therapist now?
Somebody is so blinded by their hatred that they can’t even think straight!
Justice4All78

Huntsville, AL

#20 Jun 18, 2008
By the way…your NEW rule was listed in the rule book back in 2006 and possibly the books previous to that. So, how, in 2008, is this a NEW rule?

Abideth said:
“I totally agree with you "yoyo". I was a parent this year. I'm happy for you that you had a great coach and a wonderful time. I suppose that your team did very well too. But nobody seems to care about the deafening loss of numbers of players at lott park. What did you have 5 or 6 teams? T-ball can start around 200 or more if promoted better and ends with 50 kids by the time their eleven. That my dear, is abysmal.”

There were 10 teams in Majors this year and don’t forget that half those T-ball kids that start in the system are Girls and often go on to play softball! T-ball is a time to test the waters and give the child a chance to see if baseball is something they would be interested in pursuing. Baseball is not for every kid. There is obviously a natural progression of less kids per year, as the kids grow older and find different interests. Not to mention that there is only 1 baseball team for the schools they will attend and obviously 200 kids will not be on it.

Abideth said:
“Don't know where you are going with the Wikipedia post, other than I assume you felt as if I did go there. No, I didn't. I think, I don't know for sure , that the previous poster may have used incompetech.com . I've have seen that sites information on the phrase "I could care less" but have not used the wiki site.”

Abideth’s first quote at the beginning of this thread:
“You must abide by the rules. That is, if you make them up "on the fly." This years corruption has been epic, depending on who you speak to. To discuss this situation, we must address what the art of sandbagging is and how it is defined. In the realm of Daphne Dixie Youth baseball, I shall add the definition according to Wikipedia, for your perusal.

Sandbagging as a term may be derived from the practice of creating protective dams and temporary levees with sandbags in flood situations (to hold back or redirect). Thus, in games and adversarial settings, to "sandbag" is to intentionally understate one's strength, with the intention of deceiving one's opponents into overreaching. The sandbagger can then reveal a hidden strength to take the opponent by surprise. The usage has been noted in Demolition Derby, when drivers refuse to be aggressive or pretend to have mechanical problems or both until the last two or three cars are running and then their car will start running just fine or they become more aggressive or both; in poker, when a player with a strong hand bets small amounts to persuade opponents to stay in the game; and in golf, where a "sandbagger" is someone who misrepresents his handicap to gain an advantage over other players.”

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