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Cyclist's death spurs renewed push for a "Complete Streets" policy in Huntsville

There are 23 comments on the Redstone Rocket story from Jun 21, 2010, titled Cyclist's death spurs renewed push for a "Complete Streets" policy in Huntsville. In it, Redstone Rocket reports that:

Before she was killed cycling in Tennessee last month, Sharon Bayler lobbied Huntsville Mayor Tommy Battle to adopt a " Complete Streets " policy.

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Claire

United States

#1 Jun 21, 2010
I totally agree with the sentiment that we need to make Huntsville more bike, pedestrian and handicap friendly.
Its An Obamanation

Auburn, AL

#2 Jun 21, 2010
I D I O T S
Claire

United States

#3 Jun 24, 2010
Whats to disagree with? I see kids walking in the streets on their way to school because of lack of sidewalks, this is unsafe & the situation should be fixed.
Bub-ber

Daphne, AL

#4 Jun 24, 2010
Its An Obamanation wrote:
I D I O T S
Who? The motorists, the politicians, the cyclist...?
riding

Foley, AL

#5 Jun 29, 2010
Need to be in a park somewhere, not on the road.
Claire

United States

#6 Jul 18, 2010
The law says I have every right to be on the road with my bicycle as long as I obey the traffic rules. I'm gonna get a camera mounted on my bike. this way those who harass me for my right are brought to justice. I use my bike to get around within the city there are some trips i just don't think are justified by a car ride. Riding my bike to the gym is part of my workout routine and I'm not giving it up. We'll see whose the fool when gas prices go back up.
Terry

Fairhope, AL

#7 Jul 19, 2010
OK Then obey the traffic rules---35 mph means 35 mph, 50 mph means 50 mph, license plate means license plate, insurance means insurance, blinkers mean blinkers, head lights mean head lights, red lights mean stop, stop signs mean stop, I don’t care if you use the highway but please move to the side walk so I may drive the speed limit and not be forced to drive 1o mph behind a bicycle that is not paying road use taxes. I guess I should be able to come to your gym a stay on any piece of equipment as long as I wish even though you are in line to use it, Correct???? I ride a bicycle also but I don’t wish to compete with a 10,000 # automobile! If you hit my car passing me at a red light or stop sign you better hope your insurance is good because my paint job will cost a lot more than the bicycle. The next time I’m waiting for a light to change and a bicycle goes to illegal pass I thing I will take the stop time to open my door and check my tires!!!!!!!! Oh no I didn’t see that bicycle illegally passing me...

Since: Jan 10

Huntsville, AL

#8 Jul 19, 2010
We encounter a wonderful bicyclist role model on Oakwood Rd at the Research Park Blvd access road. Sitting in the left turn lane waiting to turn north on the access road we have encountered a cyclist several times who veers into the oncoming lanes, blows the traffic light and cuts through the turnaround under the overpass. If you want to "share the road" you have to play by the rules. How about reaching out into your own cycling community to teach cycling safety and traffic rules, not just the car/motorcycle community.
Bub-ber

Mobile, AL

#9 Jul 22, 2010
Here is the link to Alabama's law regarding bicycles on the road.
Also check out sections 32-5A-263 and ...-283.
It's spelled out. Cyclist's generally have the same rights as those operating motor vehicles.

http://www.legislature.state.al.us/CodeofAlab...
rver

Brimley, MI

#10 Jul 22, 2010
How many motorists have been run over and killed by a cyclist? I can't seem to find that stat but there have been a large number of cyclist killed by those driving cars/trucks.
Give Me a Break

Gulf Shores, AL

#11 Jul 22, 2010
Here's a winner for you--Fairhope paid thousands of dollars for a walking/biking path paralleling the Rt. 98 Scenic Highway that runs for several miles. It is all asphalted, smooth and beautiful. It is separated from the road by a wide grassy strip. Guess what? Everytime I go down that road, the cyclists are riding in the 2-lane road so that motorists have to go into the on-coming lane to pass them or go 5mph and stay behind them. Talk about inconsiderate--these cyclists take the cake. Then, if they get hit, they are the first ones to blame the motorist.

Since: Jan 10

Huntsville, AL

#12 Jul 26, 2010
rver wrote:
How many motorists have been run over and killed by a cyclist? I can't seem to find that stat but there have been a large number of cyclist killed by those driving cars/trucks.
And if it's the cyclist that I mentioned in my post that gets hit while breaking multiple traffic laws whose fault will it be?
Give Me a Break

Gulf Shores, AL

#13 Jul 26, 2010
"And if it's the cyclist that I mentioned in my post that gets hit while breaking multiple traffic laws whose fault will it be?"

It will probably be the motorist's fault. It's almost like these cyclists are daring motorists to hit them. What I can't understand is why small motorcycles and motor-scooters are not allowed on the road unless they have a minimum amount of engine displacement; but, a fat, out-of condition, half-blind and hard-of hearing cyclist is allowed to use the roads. People are not allowed to ride an all-terrain vehicle on the roads either. What kind of lobby do these cyclists have that we can't get the legislature to keep them off of the roads? What if I wanted to put on a backpack and walk down the road and make traffic go around me, is that against the law? Can I put on a pair of roller skates and go down the road? Maybe we all ought to get together and occupy the roads with everything we can think of that inhibits traffic so much that no one can get anywhere and then maybe the elected officials will decide that roads are for vehicles that can go the speed limit. I see signs on lots of roads that point out the MINIMUM speed limit. Let's get the police to start handing out tickets to cyclists who are not maintaining a minimum speed of at least 40mph. We have laws on the books--let the police start enforcing them.
Bub-ber

Mobile, AL

#14 Jul 28, 2010
Give Me a Break wrote:
Here's a winner for you--Fairhope paid thousands of dollars for a walking/biking path paralleling the Rt. 98 Scenic Highway that runs for several miles. It is all asphalted, smooth and beautiful. It is separated from the road by a wide grassy strip. Guess what? Everytime I go down that road, the cyclists are riding in the 2-lane road so that motorists have to go into the on-coming lane to pass them or go 5mph and stay behind them. Talk about inconsiderate--these cyclists take the cake. Then, if they get hit, they are the first ones to blame the motorist.
I was under the impression that the new path was strictly for pedestrians/joggers.
I suppose the cyclist on the road are just exercising their right to be there.
Bub-ber

Mobile, AL

#15 Jul 28, 2010
Give Me a Break wrote:
"And if it's the cyclist that I mentioned in my post that gets hit while breaking multiple traffic laws whose fault will it be?"
It will probably be the motorist's fault. It's almost like these cyclists are daring motorists to hit them. What I can't understand is why small motorcycles and motor-scooters are not allowed on the road unless they have a minimum amount of engine displacement; but, a fat, out-of condition, half-blind and hard-of hearing cyclist is allowed to use the roads. People are not allowed to ride an all-terrain vehicle on the roads either. What kind of lobby do these cyclists have that we can't get the legislature to keep them off of the roads? What if I wanted to put on a backpack and walk down the road and make traffic go around me, is that
against the law? Can I put on a pair of roller skates and go down the road? Maybe we all ought to get together and occupy the roads with everything we can think of that inhibits traffic so much that no one can get anywhere and then maybe the elected officials will decide that roads are for vehicles that can go the speed limit. I see signs on lots of roads that point out the MINIMUM speed limit. Let's get the police to start handing out tickets to cyclists who are not maintaining a minimum speed of at least 40mph. We have laws on the books--let the police start enforcing them.
If the cyclist is breaking the law, it will be the cyclist fault if there is an accident, just like any other vehicle accident. I had to testify as a witness several years ago against a cyclist that ran a stop sign and caused an accident between two cars. He was held accountable in the case.

Most of the cyclists I see are pretty fit, I seldom see the cyclist you have described. A few, but not many.

As Alabama law states (via link above) bicycles have all the rights as a motor vehicle to be on the road. The only place in Alabama with a MINIMUM speed limit is on the interstates where it is illegal to ride a bicycle.

Scooters are perfectly legal on the streets all the way down to the smallest Yamaha makes (49cc). These are also prohibited on the interstates.

There is nothing for the legislature to do, the laws concerning this already exist.

All of this means that there are no laws "on the books" as you stated, to be enforced. Except on the interstates.

Perhaps you need to take a different tact that makes a little more sense in resolving your issue with cyclist being on YOUR road. It starts with a petition and going to your local government, etc.
Perhaps to make sure you have the full experience you should put the shoe on the other foot, so to speak. Try riding your bike to pick up a couple of small items at the store. This way you will have the perspective of both sides before you start typing things that are nothing more than an irrational childish response and actually have some facts to back them up. Just an idea...
Give Me a Break

Gulf Shores, AL

#16 Jul 28, 2010
Bub-ber wrote:
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I was under the impression that the new path was strictly for pedestrians/joggers.
I suppose the cyclist on the road are just exercising their right to be there.
Maybe you are correct. If so, we need to change the law so that they don't have the right to be there. I'd rather see a cyclist run into a jogger than a motorist run into a cyclist--and, this is going to happen on that road because the lanes are too narrow to safely pass a cyclist without going into the opposing lane and there is too much traffic on that road to begin with. Cyclists should confine their riding to residential streets or bus their bikes to some isolated country road. It's only common sense. Cyclists are basically just giving the mortorists the 'finger' and it is only the cyclist that stands to get injured or killed.
Bub-ber

Mobile, AL

#17 Jul 29, 2010
If I'm not mistaken the last 5 fatalities in Baldwin County were on rural county roads where the vehicles are moving faster, has less reaction time and less manuvering room.
Again, the law affords the cyclists the right to use the road. I suppose it's because the cyclist also own cars and pay taxes like the rest of us.
Give Me a Break

Gulf Shores, AL

#18 Jul 29, 2010
Certainly, there must be limitations to one's use of public roadways. A taxpayer who purchases a surplus military tank would not be permitted to drive it on a highway so just owning a car and paying taxes does not bestow on anyone an unlimited use of public roads. You may be correct about rural county roads being dangerous for cyclists. I think that cyclists need to use a great deal of common sense in selecting the roadway they ride on. Just because it may be legal does not mean that it is safe. You may have, in the past, driven by a cyclist on some road where you thought that it was dangerous.
Bub-ber

Mobile, AL

#19 Aug 10, 2010
Give Me a Break wrote:
Certainly, there must be limitations to one's use of public roadways. A taxpayer who purchases a surplus military tank would not be permitted to drive it on a highway so just owning a car and paying taxes does not bestow on anyone an unlimited use of public roads. You may be correct about rural county roads being dangerous for cyclists. I think that cyclists need to use a great deal of common sense in selecting the roadway they ride on. Just because it may be legal does not mean that it is safe. You may have, in the past, driven by a cyclist on some road where you thought that it was dangerous.
I would love to drive a tank up and down Hwy. 59 for a day. I would first target all of the Michigan tags, those are some obnoxious buttholes. The main reason they won't let you drive a tank on the streets is because the tank would tear up the paving.

You are 100% correct about using common sense about where to ride.
Give me a Break

Gulf Shores, AL

#20 Aug 10, 2010
Bub-ber wrote:
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I would love to drive a tank up and down Hwy. 59 for a day. I would first target all of the Michigan tags, those are some obnoxious buttholes. The main reason they won't let you drive a tank on the streets is because the tank would tear up the paving.
You are 100% correct about using common sense about where to ride.
Everywhere you go there are signs that say something like 'No trucks on this road'. There ought to be signs that say the same about cyclists since many of them don't have the sense to know when a highway is too narrow or that there is too much traffic on it to be safe for cyclists.

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