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Sep 30, 2009
 
KAP Investigation why doesn't the State Police or Attorney Generals Office Investigate KAP.

How can this be legal? Why is a private company allowed to over see KAP and make all this money? If our State and Counties are in scuh bad shape why aren't they taking care of the misdemeanor probation just more money for the State. I smell something fishy about this KAP thing.
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Danville, KY

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Sep 30, 2009
 
KAP Investigation wrote:
KAP Investigation why doesn't the State Police or Attorney Generals Office Investigate KAP.
How can this be legal? Why is a private company allowed to over see KAP and make all this money? If our State and Counties are in scuh bad shape why aren't they taking care of the misdemeanor probation just more money for the State. I smell something fishy about this KAP thing.
For what?
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Lexington, KY

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KAP Investigation wrote:
KAP Investigation why doesn't the State Police or Attorney Generals Office Investigate KAP.
How can this be legal? Why is a private company allowed to over see KAP and make all this money? If our State and Counties are in scuh bad shape why aren't they taking care of the misdemeanor probation just more money for the State. I smell something fishy about this KAP thing.
it would cost the state a whole lot more to operate a probation office than what the average probationer pays KAP and i don't know about you but i sure don't want to pay anymore taxes than i have too. Furthermore, kap is there to make sure that people go to their court ordered classes for dui, domestic violence,drug charges, cold check writing etc. do you know how many people try to duck out of having to face their problems? I work hard and so does my husband everyday, and i'm sick and tired of the druggies who bogg down our courts. last year my purse was stolen. it cost me so much anguish with the money that was taken the time it took away from my job and family to starighten out everything. come to find out the guy who took it was caught by the police trying to use my bank card. so not only did he cause a fair amount of grief for me and my family, but i also get to pay the taxes for the police to try to apprehend him , the courts to prosecute him, and the jail to house him! Let Kap charge these people.
also for all of you driving with no insurance, you are so irresponsible. if you hurt me in a car accident, who pays my medical bills? or my car to be fixed.
you people only care about yourselves and the crappy little worlds you live in. and you say screw the rest of the world.
all the upstanding people are your victims.
every time you have one of your bar fights get into it with your spouses, get a dui, use /abuse drugs, steal, write bad checks beat/neglect your kids, assualt etc. the rest of society has to pay for it. we get taxed over your stupidity. wayne can't argue with his wife without hitting her in the face so i get to contribute part of my paycheck to have the police come put wayne in adult time out aka jail because he never did grow up.
you want to sit around and conjure up your little conspiricy theories, why don't you ask yourself why their is so much crime riddling our communities.
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Georgetown, KY

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Oct 13, 2009
 
in the know wrote:
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it would cost the state a whole lot more to operate a probation office than what the average probationer pays KAP and i don't know about you but i sure don't want to pay anymore taxes than i have too. Furthermore, kap is there to make sure that people go to their court ordered classes for dui, domestic violence,drug charges, cold check writing etc. do you know how many people try to duck out of having to face their problems? I work hard and so does my husband everyday, and i'm sick and tired of the druggies who bogg down our courts. last year my purse was stolen. it cost me so much anguish with the money that was taken the time it took away from my job and family to starighten out everything. come to find out the guy who took it was caught by the police trying to use my bank card. so not only did he cause a fair amount of grief for me and my family, but i also get to pay the taxes for the police to try to apprehend him , the courts to prosecute him, and the jail to house him! Let Kap charge these people.
also for all of you driving with no insurance, you are so irresponsible. if you hurt me in a car accident, who pays my medical bills? or my car to be fixed.
you people only care about yourselves and the crappy little worlds you live in. and you say screw the rest of the world.
all the upstanding people are your victims.
every time you have one of your bar fights get into it with your spouses, get a dui, use /abuse drugs, steal, write bad checks beat/neglect your kids, assualt etc. the rest of society has to pay for it. we get taxed over your stupidity. wayne can't argue with his wife without hitting her in the face so i get to contribute part of my paycheck to have the police come put wayne in adult time out aka jail because he never did grow up.
you want to sit around and conjure up your little conspiricy theories, why don't you ask yourself why their is so much crime riddling our communities.
Little strong, but good reasoning. I agree for the most part. You will probably get the most flack about the insurance part. I understand that insurance is expensive, but it should be considered as an expense of owning a vehicle. If you can't afford the insurance to cover your vehicle, you cannot afford the car, or to drive.
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Oct 13, 2009
 
KAP Investigation wrote:
KAP Investigation why doesn't the State Police or Attorney Generals Office Investigate KAP.
How can this be legal? Why is a private company allowed to over see KAP and make all this money? If our State and Counties are in scuh bad shape why aren't they taking care of the misdemeanor probation just more money for the State. I smell something fishy about this KAP thing.
Have to agree if an indivalue can do it and make a profit why is'nt the state taking care of misdemeamor probation, Can anyone start a Kap progam , was there bids taken how did one co. get the contract for Kap I agree needs some looking into
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Lexington, KY

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Oct 17, 2009
 
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Have to agree if an indivalue can do it and make a profit why is'nt the state taking care of misdemeamor probation, Can anyone start a Kap progam , was there bids taken how did one co. get the contract for Kap I agree needs some looking into
so the only thing that bothers you here is that a private company is making money. so no one would complain if the state handled it? the real issue to me seems to be that you people are upset that this is a private company instead of belonging to the state.why?no the real issue is that you cannot stand being on probation and having to pay money for it. the difference to me is that it would cost a whole lot more for the state to run a probation office. and the tax payers who don't commit crimes would get to foot that bill. what you are seeing is that you are giving money to kap and that they are making pure profit. are any of you accountants? do you know what it would cost the state to operate this programs. and fyi, why doesn't the state have their own provide construction companies, and road building crews. these things are contracted out to private companies and i don't hear you complaining about this.
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Manchester, KY

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You couldn't be more wrong, first I'm not on probation but I know a scam when I see one. First I'll ask you just how long you have been working for KAP. then I will say why would it cost more for the state to run it, thats crazy, they already work at the court house there would be no office space to rent or other employees to hire. I just wish the Attorney General or news group would investigate then they would see what I have seen for some time now?
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Winchester, KY

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Oct 17, 2009
 
KAP Investigation wrote:
KAP Investigation why doesn't the State Police or Attorney Generals Office Investigate KAP.
How can this be legal? Why is a private company allowed to over see KAP and make all this money? If our State and Counties are in scuh bad shape why aren't they taking care of the misdemeanor probation just more money for the State. I smell something fishy about this KAP thing.
i hate kap they all about money...its crazy to sent ppl there you get away wit alot there i think not really a punishment
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Lexington, KY

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You couldn't be more wrong, first I'm not on probation but I know a scam when I see one. First I'll ask you just how long you have been working for KAP. then I will say why would it cost more for the state to run it, thats crazy, they already work at the court house there would be no office space to rent or other employees to hire. I just wish the Attorney General or news group would investigate then they would see what I have seen for some time now?
you couldn't be more wrong in assuming i work for kap. i started to laugh when i read that. it just goes along with your paranoia. but it also goes along with your narrow thinking. second it would cost more for the state to run this program. every state worker has to start out at a certain pay scale or grade. the state has to insure that these people have a pension fund and finally the state has to provide insurance to their workers, and everyone knows that state insurance is awesome. people actually try to get jobs with the state just for the benefits. and if the state ran the probation office how much do you think that it would cost them everytime someone quit? you would have to pay to advertise, interview and train new people. so yes it would cost more for the state to run this then a private company. the state would not pass up the chance to make money on individuals if they thought that it would be lucrative. you don't think that the commonwealth has already looked at this to see if it would be worth their time? don't be naive. does it upset you that ups, dhl and fed ex have been created.we have the united states post office. so why doesn't the government handle all the mail. and you do know that there are private schools out there, even though we have a public school system? there are tons of examples were private industries perform the same jobs that our government does. there is no scam here. being on kap is completly voluntary. you volunteer when you break the law. if you don't want these "scam artists" in your life then don't break the law. it's really that simple. and again i don't work for kap. i live in your community, i share the same roads with you , pay the same taxes as you, and care about the world my child grows up in.
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it would cost the state a whole lot more to operate a probation office than what the average probationer pays KAP and i don't know about you but i sure don't want to pay anymore taxes than i have too. Furthermore, kap is there to make sure that people go to their court ordered classes for dui, domestic violence,drug charges, cold check writing etc. do you know how many people try to duck out of having to face their problems? I work hard and so does my husband everyday, and i'm sick and tired of the druggies who bogg down our courts. last year my purse was stolen. it cost me so much anguish with the money that was taken the time it took away from my job and family to starighten out everything. come to find out the guy who took it was caught by the police trying to use my bank card. so not only did he cause a fair amount of grief for me and my family, but i also get to pay the taxes for the police to try to apprehend him , the courts to prosecute him, and the jail to house him! Let Kap charge these people.
also for all of you driving with no insurance, you are so irresponsible. if you hurt me in a car accident, who pays my medical bills? or my car to be fixed.
you people only care about yourselves and the crappy little worlds you live in. and you say screw the rest of the world.
all the upstanding people are your victims.
every time you have one of your bar fights get into it with your spouses, get a dui, use /abuse drugs, steal, write bad checks beat/neglect your kids, assualt etc. the rest of society has to pay for it. we get taxed over your stupidity. wayne can't argue with his wife without hitting her in the face so i get to contribute part of my paycheck to have the police come put wayne in adult time out aka jail because he never did grow up.
you want to sit around and conjure up your little conspiricy theories, why don't you ask yourself why their is so much crime riddling our communities.
OK. I know that im a little late on this but Ive been in jail and rehab for the past 2 years. I know, I'm such a horrible person. I am a still and will always be a recovering opiate addict and actually I'm not ashamed one bit! My thing is, is that if my probation officer had really put some effort into my case I would have been in rehab a whole lot sooner. SO, that being said, all this money that is spent on us criminals and addicts and low lives that we are, needs to be spent more wisely and we need some harder probation officers out there. I was born with a condition that makes me in a lot of pain. My back to be precise. Went to the doctor when I was 11 years old and it was on until November 28 2011. That is my clean date. I love my life, my children, and wouldn't have it any other way. Sounds to me like you just hate the world and have money issues. Don't take it out on us horrible people! DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! I just hope one day or by now that you have realized that ALL people have some sort of issue(s) in their life. Sorry that the terrible DISEASE of addiction didn't get ahold of your life. Maybe somebody doesn't like how you walk down the road and let your dog shit in somebody's yard. Who knows! I hope you figure out that this is what makes the world go around. Glad your life is so much better than everybody elses. already sounds like you have had your go around with an awful criminal, druggie, however you want to put it. Just be thankful you weren't raped or kidnapped like some people have gone through. Maybe you should think about that before you talk shit to the whole world.
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Apr 9, 2014
 
I think Kap should be investigated, It is nothing but a money racket and they are taking from the poor, you mess up one time and you tail is hauled off to jail, look at the inmates in Boyle County jail, I would say 50 percent are in there over Kap, somebody needs to do something about them.
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Apr 10, 2014
 
Money Racket wrote:
I think Kap should be investigated, It is nothing but a money racket and they are taking from the poor, you mess up one time and you tail is hauled off to jail, look at the inmates in Boyle County jail, I would say 50 percent are in there over Kap, somebody needs to do something about them.
then you need to take your complaint and good pieces of evidence or reasoning to the news stations and ask them to investigate. lex 18 does this. but you have to have something for them to go on, not just hand over an idea. do some research and present it to them.
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The bad thing about it is if they would drug screen the ones in there an their family I am sure that they would not be working there! I have seen some of these people at party's an there are more drug activity going on there then in a drug store! The big Birthday Party's in Aug man they will blow your mind what goes on there!! They all are jokes there good thing I dont have to go to them!!!
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May 31, 2014
 
I worked at KAP (briefly) a few years ago...briefly meaning about 2-3 weeks. While a decent "legal" type job for someone with a paralegal degree, it is not for everyone. I felt like a total hypocrite myself having been through a defered prosecution program myself for shoplifting back in the early 90's. I won;t bad mouth the workers there as they were fine with me, but I will say that the one recurring statement I heard from customers there was that they wished they had taken the jail option rather than the KAP option as the un-timed phone calls, having to leave work for drug tests on whatever schedule the KAP computers kicks out putting their jobs in danger, and the never endingness of it all seemed like a form of slavery to them. I have to agree on that point. Having done defered prosecution myself and having worked at Kap for a brief time I know that if I ever got caught for something again and went to court I would personally take the jail option without question. Screw it, if my jobs going to be in constant danger because Kap calls me to be in their office at 1 p.m. one week & 10 a.m. the next week and forces me to pay for any opened urine testing pacakges and/or other fees built in to milk customers I would much rather just be in jail. Jail will be over sooner in most cases and let the couty pay for my lodging & meals. Kick back & relax on the county dime and lift a flying bird to your local judges.
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May 31, 2014
 
That being said, I did like the people I worked with.
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Have to agree wrote:
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Have to agree if an indivalue can do it and make a profit why is'nt the state taking care of misdemeamor probation, Can anyone start a Kap progam , was there bids taken how did one co. get the contract for Kap I agree needs some looking into
No bids taken the company was started by a former legislator who made friends while in office then started Kap the local prosecutors and judges approved it on there own in fact if you will investigate who is in charge of Kap you may find her relationship to a high official may even be a conflict of interest why not send everyone to Kap if your wife in getting paid from it just wish a news reporter would take and interest in checking it out they may find a heck of a story behind it from the start of Kap up til now. Agree if a private company can do it why couldn't our local district court clerks very questionable

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