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DandridgeRes

Newport, TN

#1 Feb 5, 2009
In the last little bit, Dandridge Fire has been in the local headlines as well as the local news. Has anyone been by there new station located at the old ford service center? It is state of the art. However, there is a certain few members there that are stuck in the 1960's. I know that you cant just up and get rid of people who volunteer their services, because lord knows that I could not do what they do, but why hold everyone else back that wants to move forward. I have spoken to several members of the department, and for the most part, I hear the same comments. "We have done it that way for years", well sorry people things change, and if you cant change with it, I suggest you step to the side and let someone else handle it. Many members of DFD are showing that they want to push the dept. forward and it shows by the equipment and facilities that these guys have. But if you cant get the members to train with the newer updated equipment and use it the way it is now designed, what good is it doing them. I live in dandridge and still think that this group of guys at the dfd are professional and get the job done, I just think that they all need to get on the same page.
Peter Rosinha

Enfield, CT

#2 Feb 11, 2009
I was once a volunteer fireman/emt in the town of Little Compton RI and hear to there wear peaple that didn,t want change.With the way the wold is today and the advansment in it ther has to be change and new training and equitment. Do the town and the fire dept a big faver try new things.By the way the town that i once volunteered in is now a 99.9% payed dept.In closeing i did have a chance to visit DFD and thought it was one heck of the dept.
POOR THINGS

Knoxville, TN

#3 Jan 4, 2010
Dandridge FD seemed to being doing better than they had in years past, but recently, the department has started falling back in its old ways. If things continue, the city is doomed. McSpadden was turning things around, and now with Shults in, the department is once again screwed. They need serious intervention from the city.
dfd754

Morristown, TN

#4 Jan 9, 2010
POOR THINGS wrote:
Dandridge FD seemed to being doing better than they had in years past, but recently, the department has started falling back in its old ways. If things continue, the city is doomed. McSpadden was turning things around, and now with Shults in, the department is once again screwed. They need serious intervention from the city.
I have to agree 100%! I spoke with and sent a letter to the City of dandridge, and gave my personal opinion, and thought that the choice and approval would be closely looked at, but I guess not. I gues the members will have to step up and make better choices, as to who they need leading the department. Don't be affraid to speak your mind and give your opinion, we are still here to help the citizens of Jefferson County and those traveling through it! Safety is starting to become an issue, and I just hope that someone with a little training and a lot of common sense is there to keep things safe while the officers are trying to figure out what the heck is going on!
formermemberdfd

Morristown, TN

#5 Jan 12, 2010
It took McSpadden a while to get the dept up where it needed to be but he almost succeeded. If he would have had his officers support instead of them pulling against him it may have been possible! Now with shultz in and his officers moving up dfd is going back to the McCoig days! Why would you move up 3 worthless officers. From asst chief- safety captain? Never did their job then sure as hell wont do it now!
LOL

Knoxville, TN

#6 Feb 12, 2010
AAAAAAA IM THE CHEIF AND YOU HAVE TO DO AS I SAY.Wait to june you bozo then you can go back to chfd with 903.
Proud

Knoxville, TN

#7 Feb 15, 2010
Chuck McSpadden is a super great guy, very dedicated and a hard worker. He has helped the Dandridge Volunteer Fire Dept greatly. He has gave a lot of his time and effort, whether it be on calls as a volunteer, serving as chief or working late at night to remodel the new fire dept. Which is "State of the Art" as mentioned by others. Young Chuck McSpadden only served as Chief for 5 years and look at what he has accomplished.
The ones that do so much and try so hard are the ones that are overlooked or taken for granted. Thank you Chuck, Your Friend
Luke

Newport, TN

#8 Feb 15, 2010
All right boys and girls. Here is the deal. You can bash Garland McCoig all you want, thats your right. But let us remember who we are talking about. One of the founding members of the dept, fire chief for more than a few decades. Saved enough money through the budget and getting donations from the community to have enough money saved up so that the dept could purchase all this nice new equipment. Chuck just got to spend more funds because he was liked better by the city govt, where Garland is a no non sense, tell you to your face what he thinks whether you like or not person. NOT A BACK STABBER. Show some respect for those who came before and sacrificed so much for us.

All this nice equipment that I keep seeing attributed to Mr McSpadden, two pieces of equipment were purchased during his term as chief. The new station was purchased during his term and he did personally put a lot of effort into getting it renovated to what it is now. As for this building is state of the art, the roof leaks and the heat and air does not work properly. Granted, the roof leaked prior to it becoming the fire station, but it hasnt been fixed by any of the chiefs to reside in that corner office with a view.

And for the comments about the officers being less than spectacular, these are the only people who are elligible to hold these positions because the dept has backed itself into a corner with so many restrictions on what it takes to hold certain postions. Most of these restrictions were written by people who were in the dept but could not live up to the requirements themselves to remain members.

In closing, I am firefighter with the Dandridge Fire Department, and we have our issues just like any other profession, everyone cant just get along, that is a simple fact of life. Garland McCoig has done many good things for this deaprtment and the community. Chuck McSpadden did many good things for this department and the community. I gave Mr McSpadden a fair opportunity to perform his duties as chief, just as I told him I would. How do I and the other members of the department who voted for him for chief and placed our trust in him get rewarded? He quits in the middle of his term. Stunt, maybe, legitemate personal reasons, maybe, dirty scheme to get a result that he and others wanted but the department voted against on several occasions, maybe. Lets just wait till next year and see if he doesnt wind up as the chief again.
Luke

Newport, TN

#9 Feb 15, 2010
formermemberdfd wrote:
It took McSpadden a while to get the dept up where it needed to be but he almost succeeded. If he would have had his officers support instead of them pulling against him it may have been possible! Now with shultz in and his officers moving up dfd is going back to the McCoig days! Why would you move up 3 worthless officers. From asst chief- safety captain? Never did their job then sure as hell wont do it now!
Aaron, if you were that concerned about making the department better, why did you leave? Why didnt you stick around to help better it? Oh, I remember, you could not meet the requirements to be a member. Shults's (correct selling by the way) officers? These are the same officers, except for one, that were in office when chuck was chief. So you might want try that one again. Try respecting your predecessors in the fire service, thought that was big with you PROFFESIONAL FIREMAN?

Since: Feb 10

Dandridge, TN

#10 Feb 16, 2010
I feel sorry for you guys in dfd now with such a high speed chief that you have.
LOL

Knoxville, TN

#11 Feb 16, 2010
Tell me luke seeing you are on the fire dept you have not said anything about your new chief.
Luke

Bradenville, PA

#12 Feb 16, 2010
LOL wrote:
Tell me luke seeing you are on the fire dept you have not said anything about your new chief.
It is hard to comment on a man when has only held the position for 2 1/2 months, why dont we try giving him a chance first, I did that for chuck, why doesnt everyone else do that for steve.
Luke

United States

#13 Feb 16, 2010
Luke wrote:
<quoted text>
Aaron, if you were that concerned about making the department better, why did you leave? Why didnt you stick around to help better it? Oh, I remember, you could not meet the requirements to be a member. Shults's (correct selling by the way) officers? These are the same officers, except for one, that were in office when chuck was chief. So you might want try that one again. Try respecting your predecessors in the fire service, thought that was big with you PROFFESIONAL FIREMAN?
I just spoke with Aaron, he phoned me and said he did not post anything on here, glad to see some aren't scared to call people out and let what you have to say be identified with who you are. I apologize for calling someone out on here and being wrong.
double naught spy

AOL

#14 Feb 16, 2010
DandridgeRes wrote:
In the last little bit, Dandridge Fire has been in the local headlines as well as the local news. Has anyone been by there new station located at the old ford service center? It is state of the art. However, there is a certain few members there that are stuck in the 1960's. I know that you cant just up and get rid of people who volunteer their services, because lord knows that I could not do what they do, but why hold everyone else back that wants to move forward. I have spoken to several members of the department, and for the most part, I hear the same comments. "We have done it that way for years", well sorry people things change, and if you cant change with it, I suggest you step to the side and let someone else handle it. Many members of DFD are showing that they want to push the dept. forward and it shows by the equipment and facilities that these guys have. But if you cant get the members to train with the newer updated equipment and use it the way it is now designed, what good is it doing them. I live in dandridge and still think that this group of guys at the dfd are professional and get the job done, I just think that they all need to get on the same page.
Don't they say "IF IT AIN'T BROKE-DON'T FIX IT"? Have you ever worked at something for so many years that you have tried things every way they could possibly be done? And there is one way that works best and you know it. Maybe you get a new boss and he tries to tell you to do it his way(maybe like he did it at wal-mart). But you already know that ain't gonna work cause you tried that 15 years ago and you know it ain't gonna work. Maybe thy need time to practice and get use to the new.Give them time and pray for them.
Im just sayin

Brookfield, WI

#15 Feb 18, 2010
Here is a thought boys! Talk about all of these cares and concerns in your meetings. Instead of pissing and moaning about your department problems on the internet, talk it out like GROWN MEN! If you don't like what is going on.........voice your opinion to each other in person and make changes for the better or turn in your gear and get out!
Pay Attention

Dandridge, TN

#16 Feb 18, 2010
I moved to this area 4 months ago from the Baltimore area. I have a total of 15 years as a career city (big department) firefighter as well as being a township (very small rural department) volunteer firefighter during most of that time. I have been considering filling out an application for the local volunteer fire department but after reading this forum, I have no interest in being a part of a group so beat down by internal conflict and "click" vs "click." I dealt with that for many years on the rural department and that held us back from doing many great things for the community over the years. Volunteer or paid, you need to be a professional about your job....look it up in Webster...has nothing to do with the money you make, it has to do with your training and your approach at your job. I see nothing but unprofessional conduct on this page and as a brother of the leatherheads, I am ashamed of those who have been bashing each other here. No I won't join a department where there is more half cocked nonsense attitude than a desire to serve the people of Dandridge with the most professional pride possible. When you get in that truck next time and turn those lights on, remember, you are representing all firefighters nationwide and many that have fallen in the line of duty....and you are doing a poor job at it.
backdraft

Knoxville, TN

#17 Feb 18, 2010
Pay Attention wrote:
I moved to this area 4 months ago from the Baltimore area. I have a total of 15 years as a career city (big department) firefighter as well as being a township (very small rural department) volunteer firefighter during most of that time. I have been considering filling out an application for the local volunteer fire department but after reading this forum, I have no interest in being a part of a group so beat down by internal conflict and "click" vs "click." I dealt with that for many years on the rural department and that held us back from doing many great things for the community over the years. Volunteer or paid, you need to be a professional about your job....look it up in Webster...has nothing to do with the money you make, it has to do with your training and your approach at your job. I see nothing but unprofessional conduct on this page and as a brother of the leatherheads, I am ashamed of those who have been bashing each other here. No I won't join a department where there is more half cocked nonsense attitude than a desire to serve the people of Dandridge with the most professional pride possible. When you get in that truck next time and turn those lights on, remember, you are representing all firefighters nationwide and many that have fallen in the line of duty....and you are doing a poor job at it.
Can I get an AMEN!!! Well said brother! You are so very right. These guys are really ridiculous! Ya'll need to stop letting the devil run your department. Turn to God and let him guide all of you and become one.
Lois Lane

United States

#18 Feb 18, 2010
OK boys - play nice.

In a professional department you have to be able to take directions for those in charge ; your own safty is at stake.

You can not run around like chickens with your heads cut off and expect to have things run smooth.

Take more classes and keep yourselves informed in the lates techniques and HAZMAT information.

It's for your own benefit.
hummm

New Market, TN

#19 Feb 19, 2010
Seems like a real firefighter put the cry babies in their place and now they have nothing to say.
Preston

United States

#20 Feb 19, 2010
Pay Attention wrote:
I moved to this area 4 months ago from the Baltimore area. I have a total of 15 years as a career city (big department) firefighter as well as being a township (very small rural department) volunteer firefighter during most of that time. I have been considering filling out an application for the local volunteer fire department but after reading this forum, I have no interest in being a part of a group so beat down by internal conflict and "click" vs "click." I dealt with that for many years on the rural department and that held us back from doing many great things for the community over the years. Volunteer or paid, you need to be a professional about your job....look it up in Webster...has nothing to do with the money you make, it has to do with your training and your approach at your job. I see nothing but unprofessional conduct on this page and as a brother of the leatherheads, I am ashamed of those who have been bashing each other here. No I won't join a department where there is more half cocked nonsense attitude than a desire to serve the people of Dandridge with the most professional pride possible. When you get in that truck next time and turn those lights on, remember, you are representing all firefighters nationwide and many that have fallen in the line of duty....and you are doing a poor job at it.
Well said. There are a lot of issues with DFD as well as many other depts. around the country. I made a post on here a while back, and never thought it would get to this point. We need to work together, no matter what our feeling are about other members, and just remember that we are in this profession to serve our community. If you have other intentions as far as personal gain, you need to step aside and rethink why you joined this profession in the 1st place. Lets work together, instead of back stabbing. If you have an issue, talk to that person, and lets stop the internet bull$#!*. We are suppose to be professionals, so lets start acting like it!

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