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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156426 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#87338 Sep 20, 2012
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>Hi ss, I was watching a news show and they were discussing this, very interesting, wonder what lies the religies will use to discredit it.
Historically, I think the pattern is to simply make up more tales and say "lets us pray". In the next 6-8 years I believe there will be new tales "some refer to as new light from God" about the interpetation of end times to keep the flock from straying. At least on the protestant side of the house.

I don't see how the catholic church can stick to some of their doctrines seeing that they are accepting scientific evolution. Much of their beliefs as is YAAs is mixed with other pagan religions.
Believer

Whitesburg, KY

#87339 Sep 20, 2012
Really you guys

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#87340 Sep 20, 2012
Apple At Cha wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet more of the lord's work: namecalling.
Isn't it funny that those who say they want the lord's kindness, grace, and mercy are the VERY ones who won't show any of that to others?
That has been my point, as a Satanist I am a better human than the christians are. Whom is the true evil?
spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#87341 Sep 20, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Self Fulfilling prophesy.....
But Everyone should read the UN Agenda 21....
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/
SOUNDS LIKE SCIENCE FICTION...OR SOME CONSPIRACY THEORY...BUT IT ISN'T.

UN Agenda 21/Sustainable Development is implemented worldwide to inventory and control all land, all water, all minerals, all plants, all animals, all construction, all means of production, all information, and all human beings in the world. INVENTORY AND CONTROL.

http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/
spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#87343 Sep 20, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Self Fulfilling prophesy.....
But Everyone should read the UN Agenda 21....
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/
Israel will set off their doomsday bomb if they tried to take their land. Muslims would fight to save their land, war would be on going. How would the Agenda 21 prevent the wars from occuring?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87344 Sep 20, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
<quoted text>
SOUNDS LIKE SCIENCE FICTION...OR SOME CONSPIRACY THEORY...BUT IT ISN'T.
UN Agenda 21/Sustainable Development is implemented worldwide to inventory and control all land, all water, all minerals, all plants, all animals, all construction, all means of production, all information, and all human beings in the world. INVENTORY AND CONTROL.
http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/
No it's not SiFi... It's a plan that the UN and many governments have started to implement... Now for all you Obama Backers... And Clinton backers... and Democrat Believers ... Don't listen to me or the general political claims... Look at the Agenda 21 writers, sponsors & backers.. You can find a list of those that are implementing the Agenda as we speak... A couple of the Usual Suspects are George Soros, Van Jones..

In this October 2, 1992 session, the House of Representatives passed HC 353, a resolution calling for the U.S. to assume a strong leadership role in implementing the sustainable development recommendations of the Rio Earth Summit including Agenda 21. Sponsoring the bill E. Engel (D-NY), N. Pelosi (D-CA) and W. Bloomfield (R-MI)....

The Sustainable Development programs have already been implemented in several areas... The National Forest Service has quitely been closing off access roads through out the national forest lands to this I can personally testify as I have found over 30 access roads that were open within the last two years that are now closed with bull dozed ditches across them.. Both in the Daniel Boone and Smokey Mountain forests..

Also a systematic clearing of homes and people off their own lands using County Regulations has been happening in remote areas where people have been living off the grid for decades...

Also the 1st infantry that was deployed to Iraq for counter insurgency and fought at Faluja has been deployed State side with the mission of acting as Military support in case of National emergency....

Don't Believe me.. Look it all up.... On your own Government sites
spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#87345 Sep 20, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
No it's not SiFi... It's a plan that the UN and many governments have started to implement... Now for all you Obama Backers... And Clinton backers... and Democrat Believers ... Don't listen to me or the general political claims... Look at the Agenda 21 writers, sponsors & backers.. You can find a list of those that are implementing the Agenda as we speak... A couple of the Usual Suspects are George Soros, Van Jones..
In this October 2, 1992 session, the House of Representatives passed HC 353, a resolution calling for the U.S. to assume a strong leadership role in implementing the sustainable development recommendations of the Rio Earth Summit including Agenda 21. Sponsoring the bill E. Engel (D-NY), N. Pelosi (D-CA) and W. Bloomfield (R-MI)....
The Sustainable Development programs have already been implemented in several areas... The National Forest Service has quitely been closing off access roads through out the national forest lands to this I can personally testify as I have found over 30 access roads that were open within the last two years that are now closed with bull dozed ditches across them.. Both in the Daniel Boone and Smokey Mountain forests..
Also a systematic clearing of homes and people off their own lands using County Regulations has been happening in remote areas where people have been living off the grid for decades...
Also the 1st infantry that was deployed to Iraq for counter insurgency and fought at Faluja has been deployed State side with the mission of acting as Military support in case of National emergency....
Don't Believe me.. Look it all up.... On your own Government sites
I see the prior republican presidents agreed to it. The Bush family signed on and agree to "NWO". "Big Red One" will stop the mexican military from crossing over into our borders. When the texas rangers need help in the fire fight with mexican army we will send for Big Red One.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87346 Sep 20, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
<quoted text>
Israel will set off their doomsday bomb if they tried to take their land. Muslims would fight to save their land, war would be on going. How would the Agenda 21 prevent the wars from occuring?
It won't... For the goals of Agenda 21 to be complete it requires a world population reduction of about 75%.... If you want that to happen then how would you accomplish such? I would suggest you take out the Dictators such as Qaddafi, Mubaric and other leaders that controlled the great Islamic Hoards and then set about arming those hoards under the table...

Just a theory... What if the Libyan Ambassador was not there in a area where conflict was still going on to act as a US ambassador... Check his Back Ground.. He was an Arms guy before being sent there... Now we have a Arms guy in an UN-armoured vehicle with hired ex-seals in a rental house without any US Military security... The Story does not have the ring of truth to it... Sounds like a covert op to get weapons on the ground under the table and it went south...

If you are a Backers and Supporter of UN 21 you would be sitting and Hoping for an all out fight in the middle east that kills off Millions and causing the failure of national economics of many countries... All Out World War gets you to your goal of 75% population reductions and UN follow up control after the smoke clears quickly... The Only thing standing in the way is a Strong US taking actions to stop it... But a Weak appeasement US shows those that would take it to the next step have a free run at the brass ring...
spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#87347 Sep 20, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
It won't... For the goals of Agenda 21 to be complete it requires a world population reduction of about 75%.... If you want that to happen then how would you accomplish such? I would suggest you take out the Dictators such as Qaddafi, Mubaric and other leaders that controlled the great Islamic Hoards and then set about arming those hoards under the table...
Just a theory... What if the Libyan Ambassador was not there in a area where conflict was still going on to act as a US ambassador... Check his Back Ground.. He was an Arms guy before being sent there... Now we have a Arms guy in an UN-armoured vehicle with hired ex-seals in a rental house without any US Military security... The Story does not have the ring of truth to it... Sounds like a covert op to get weapons on the ground under the table and it went south...
If you are a Backers and Supporter of UN 21 you would be sitting and Hoping for an all out fight in the middle east that kills off Millions and causing the failure of national economics of many countries... All Out World War gets you to your goal of 75% population reductions and UN follow up control after the smoke clears quickly... The Only thing standing in the way is a Strong US taking actions to stop it... But a Weak appeasement US shows those that would take it to the next step have a free run at the brass ring...
Maybe thats why the democrats wanted Romney to win the GOP, Romney seems to relect a weak persona as a war time presidential candidate. Knowing that even if he won the presidential elections the agenda 21 would still be running its course as planned. Eliminating social security,medicare and then opting for cheaper plans to appease a wider displacement of people with a fraction of the cost.
spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#87348 Sep 20, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
It won't... For the goals of Agenda 21 to be complete it requires a world population reduction of about 75%.... If you want that to happen then how would you accomplish such? I would suggest you take out the Dictators such as Qaddafi, Mubaric and other leaders that controlled the great Islamic Hoards and then set about arming those hoards under the table...
Just a theory... What if the Libyan Ambassador was not there in a area where conflict was still going on to act as a US ambassador... Check his Back Ground.. He was an Arms guy before being sent there... Now we have a Arms guy in an UN-armoured vehicle with hired ex-seals in a rental house without any US Military security... The Story does not have the ring of truth to it... Sounds like a covert op to get weapons on the ground under the table and it went south...
If you are a Backers and Supporter of UN 21 you would be sitting and Hoping for an all out fight in the middle east that kills off Millions and causing the failure of national economics of many countries... All Out World War gets you to your goal of 75% population reductions and UN follow up control after the smoke clears quickly... The Only thing standing in the way is a Strong US taking actions to stop it... But a Weak appeasement US shows those that would take it to the next step have a free run at the brass ring...
I think if we had not invaded Iraq that they would have continued their slaughter of one another and then attack other countries like saudia arabia which they did do in the first Iraq war invasion and annexation of Kuwait.



Pulling our miliary back was from what I understand was the council of Army General schwarzkopf.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#87349 Sep 20, 2012
We've got to win the Senate and keep the House, so Romney won't have to compromise with Democrats.
spaceship earth_ss

El Dorado Hills, CA

#87350 Sep 20, 2012
The Bush NWO aka "Agenda 21" is similar to Mormoms beliefs that america will be the center of government and distribution of wealth to the whole globe, a theocratic belief.

Vote for Obama is a vote for social security medicare for disabled and elderly and va benefits for our diabled soldiers . House prices are inceasing and jobs are increasing under Obama.

Republicans like Mormons want a slave class not a middle class, just call them all a cult.
Diogenes

Savannah, GA

#87351 Sep 20, 2012
The Billionaire Koch Brothers are Funding the Tea Party.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/Peter-Fen ...

Search; What Have the Tea Party and the church of Satan Got in Common?

Type it in the Search box, and click search
Diogenes

Savannah, GA

#87352 Sep 20, 2012
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/...

Tea Party and Church of Satan

“"Jesus Saves"”

Since: Feb 12

Gods Country

#87353 Sep 20, 2012
Love Jesus and Love All!

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#87354 Sep 21, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
It won't... For the goals of Agenda 21 to be complete it requires a world population reduction of about 75%.... If you want that to happen then how would you accomplish such? I would suggest you take out the Dictators such as Qaddafi, Mubaric and other leaders that controlled the great Islamic Hoards and then set about arming those hoards under the table...
Just a theory... What if the Libyan Ambassador was not there in a area where conflict was still going on to act as a US ambassador... Check his Back Ground.. He was an Arms guy before being sent there... Now we have a Arms guy in an UN-armoured vehicle with hired ex-seals in a rental house without any US Military security... The Story does not have the ring of truth to it... Sounds like a covert op to get weapons on the ground under the table and it went south...
If you are a Backers and Supporter of UN 21 you would be sitting and Hoping for an all out fight in the middle east that kills off Millions and causing the failure of national economics of many countries... All Out World War gets you to your goal of 75% population reductions and UN follow up control after the smoke clears quickly... The Only thing standing in the way is a Strong US taking actions to stop it... But a Weak appeasement US shows those that would take it to the next step have a free run at the brass ring...
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Margaret

Hodgenville, KY

#87355 Sep 21, 2012
anon wrote:
<quoted text>Your right people use that saying alot its not there, however freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion is pretty much implied.
I do have to correct you about your so-called stats about stuff increasing in school......its been about the same now for about 50+ years? Want to know the real you hear more about it?........Mass Media and Tecnnology. Every kid has a phone now almost and with the internet everything is put out there, back before this stuff all the above went on all the time hell some your grandparents were pregnant at 15 to 16 back then. There has always been that one or 2 Trampy girls, bullies and violence. Only thing that really changed was the shooting thing thank mass media for creating copy cats on that.
I'm 100% Against religion in school, i'm sorry buts its a parents job to raise there kids you guys need to quit being lazy and making TV, video games, music and the internet do it for you. Kids are screwed up now because parents these days are pathetic if i did half the stuff i see them do now i'd been beat and grounded.
Let me ask you a simple question that no one has given a straight answer on this forum ever:
Assuming your christianity terrorism is forced back in school, what about the children who are hindu, agonstic, jewish, atheist, muslim, wiccan, etc Are you going to punish them, force them into it, or allow them time to pray and such to there own faith?
I cant stand christianity there all scumbags, hypocrites, and wannabe terrorists that I'll be damned will be forced on my kids someday. I have nothing against the idea of Jesus Christ and his teachings there actually really good, the problem is most christians dont follow them to a T, if i were jesus i'd be ashamed of the lot of you
First of all, I am really sorry that you have had bad experiences with "Christianity". The fact remains that there will always be so-called Christians who act holier than thou. Jesus Christ despised religious people. He called them pharisees. I have had the wonderful privilege of being part of a church who practices what they preach. Sure, there are always going to be those, in every church, who don't try to live as Jesus did (with love, which was His second and last commandment in the New Testament) and church is a hospital for sinners, not a country club for saints. I am just a sinner saved by the grace of God and by absolutely nothing I have done to try and deserve it.

With that being said... I have many responses and viewpoints on what you have replied. First of all, I don't see a problem with a group of kids getting together before or after school to have a Bible group. Just the same, I have no problem with a group of kids doing the same with a koran group. You wouldn't be pushing anything on anyone. If they chose to attend, great, if not, great.

I also don't see a problem with prayer in school. We are a Christian nation founded on Christian principles. The facts prove that. Why do you think the pilgrims came to America? To escape religious persecution but to also establish their Christian faith. If you go to England, there are Catholic symbols and literature everywhere you turn. In Islamic countries, the koran is preached daily and prayer is required. If they don't abide by it, they are punished. The same in Indian nations. Here, people are supposed to be able to worship freely but yet when it infringes on somebody else's viewpoint, it isn't allowed. People get their feelings hurt entirely too easy. I don't get offended when someone doesn't agree with me and my beliefs and that's all I ask of others.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87356 Sep 21, 2012
Yiago wrote:
It's not a conspiracy if it's published and implemented... At that point it becomes a Policy....

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#87357 Sep 21, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not a conspiracy if it's published and implemented... At that point it becomes a Policy...
...or the Book of Mormon.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#87358 Sep 21, 2012
spaceship earth_ss wrote:
The Bush NWO aka "Agenda 21" is similar to Mormoms beliefs that america will be the center of government and distribution of wealth to the whole globe, a theocratic belief.
You really are wrong across the board... The Bush NWO comments were based on policy that was in direct opposition to Agenda 21 policies that are now being implemented. Under 21 America is Not the the center of global redistribution.. The UN is to be and the UN is not American Soil.. Just like an American Embassy in Libya is American Soil ...

From your posts you are an intelligent fellow and really I cannot understand your support of Obama or Socialism as the intellectual end result of socialism is totalitarianism... I find it hard to understand why you think a move to a ever more socialist system will benefit the working folks and the poor... History is replete with what happens when Socialism in allowed to fully flower... The poor and working folks are the most damaged, the Elites thrive and the very liberties you have spoken of in the past are removed...

Let me ask you, If you could get the Exact Governance you wished for what would it look like... Seriously, How would it be structured, how would Companies and Corporations be taxed and regulated, How would the population in general be taxed, How would Medical care be provided, and who, what system would get the power to make everyone follow the rules and provide goods and services...

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