Why hold a Con Con? - Editorials

Why hold a Con Con? - Editorials

There are 29 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Oct 12, 2008, titled Why hold a Con Con? - Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

While sitting alongside the banks of the Damariscotta Bay, waiting for the 4th of July fireworks to start during our family vacation in Maine this summer, I was reading through the weekly Lincoln County News.

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kimo- alum of politics

Mililani, HI

#25 Oct 13, 2008
What are the list of issues that we could answer for ourselves?

Honolulu, HI

#26 Oct 13, 2008
insider wrote:
i agree with mr. haugen but would take it a step further...i actually floated this idea back in 2000 to the leg and was dismissed as naive...1) change leg to unicameral 2) change leg to non-partisan like counties 3) change leg to full time but keep session schedule as is 4) increase salaries to a reasonable amount that would attract qualified and capable legislators. this would 1) decrease the cost of the legislature dramatically by eliminating duplication and positions 2) create a non-partisan environment that would take the discussion away from party politics and focus talks on the issue 3) allow for legislators to prepare and do research for the next legislative session 4) incentify qualified candidates to run for office which will increase the level of productivity and efficiency.
it would be great if we could get these changes on the ballot...but in general i am opposed to the concon...primarily because we have more to lose than to gain...concon in itself is a duplicate of what the legislature can already do...say we have a concon...the voters will vote the same kind of mentality that already exists in the legislature, so how are we to believe we will get a different outcome if the same powers to be are behind the scenes making the calls...
Excellent suggestion but you forgot one critical option that the ConCon can accomplish that will directly address your concerns...
TERM LIMITS for legislatures. With term limits you will not get stagnation and outcomes will be different. NO State Legislature is so critical to our gov't that if he/she were not a legislature all of State gov't will fall into chaos and come to a screeching halt. I don't need to name names but we all know who I am talking about. If any such legislature was that "special" after term limits kick in, he or she is free to "move up" to get elected to be mayor, gov or senator.
One thing I do not agree on is the requirement for "full-time" work where legislatures during session are required to be in their offices 40hrs/wk. If you do that you will discourage capable people who want to serve as a legislature however they still want to maintain their current jobs as long as there is no conflict on the legislation they are working on. Previously read a post that some legislators work 70-80 hrs/ week. I think the issue with them is time management. If legislatures need to do research how about doing it a few hours a week BEFORE the legislature begins session? It is quality and not quantity of hours that will make the most effective State legislatures. That and not being in the pocket of special interest.

How about this outcome with a ConCon:
1)Change leg. to unicameral
2)Term Limits for state legislatures

Since: Sep 08

Haleiwa, HI

#27 Oct 13, 2008
LEGAL immigrant wrote:
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....... he is a well-educated, learned individual with expertise in these areas. It would seem that YOU are the idiot. You must 'belonk to ze partie.'
it's not 'ze partie'--it's 'ze PARTAY'

Honolulu, HI

#28 Oct 13, 2008
alice wrote:
I know Rohter at the UH...he is a fine professor!
I took a class from him a while back. Nice guy. His views are a bit too "out there," for my tastes. Check out his book "A Green Hawaii" where he suggests tearing down Waikiki and building a bunch of bed and breakfasts. Crazy! But, I must say he does stick by his beliefs. He rides a bike everywhere. No car.

Honolulu, HI

#30 Oct 24, 2008
I don't think it's "Can we do better?" as Mark Bennett has been saying. It should be, "We need to do better." The idea that the Legislature and a ConCon is somehow synonymous is wrong.

But if everyone has so much faith in the Legislature now--if the voters decide NO in this election, let's see what the Legislature will get done in the next 10 years on all the issues brought up in this year's discussion about the ConCon. Hopefully it will be better than the last 30.
Joe the plumber

Kailua, HI

#31 Oct 26, 2008
vote YES on CON CON

Honolulu, HI

#32 Oct 26, 2008
Hawaii has many dark corners. The powers that be do not wnat you to participate.

Honolulu, HI

#33 Oct 26, 2008
For those interested in the problem of determining 'original intent':

Con Con Nazi

Keauhou, HI

#34 Oct 27, 2008
Obama says "Change we must."

Hawaii State Teachers' Association says "No Con Con for YOU!"

Watch voter apathy kill freedom with blank votes.

I leave my Con Con ballot blank cause:

Ainokea about the Constitution.
Ainokea about people's rights.
Ainokea about notting.

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