Dallastown approves preliminary school budget with no tax increase

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The Dallastown Area School Board unanimously approved its $88 million preliminary budget, even as many members said they are far from satisfied with it.
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Ronaldus Macdonalus

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Apr 18, 2011
 
So are you saying the did vote to open it or they didn't
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Apr 18, 2011
 

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Central is already better than Dallastown anyway.
Ronaldus Magnus

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Apr 18, 2011
 
Ronaldus Macdonalus wrote:
So are you saying the did vote to open it or they didn't
I'm saying they voted in late January and that was on whether the teachers should accept a freeze.

Since then there have been no other votes that were made public. The union votes are private so we only know what they tell us. I guess it's possible that they held a vote on whether to open the contract but the outcome was no and so they didn't release the results.

Since so many people expressed disappointment with the teachers for refusing to accept a freeze I would think the union would want to release the results of a private vote if the outcome of that vote was to "re-open the contract".
Ronaldus Macdonalus

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Apr 19, 2011
 
I know I was just messing with you a little. Keep in mind the union previously sent a letter to YDR to explain some things and it was never published. If you rely on the paper alone to know what's going on you may not know everything. They choose to publish or not based on their business. Union may have decided not to release it to the paper given how hard they've been slammed already. The freeze is coming anyway that's pretty obvious.

When it comes down to it, we are not in the union meetings. And don't work there. You only know what's reported. Rest assured that's not all there is. There are plenty of rumors around that the administration (Weinberg) has favor with YDR or vice versa. Keep your mind open is all I'm saying, be judgemental but do it slowly.
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Apr 19, 2011
 
Ronaldus Macdonalus wrote:
I know I was just messing with you a little. Keep in mind the union previously sent a letter to YDR to explain some things and it was never published. If you rely on the paper alone to know what's going on you may not know everything. They choose to publish or not based on their business. Union may have decided not to release it to the paper given how hard they've been slammed already. The freeze is coming anyway that's pretty obvious.
When it comes down to it, we are not in the union meetings. And don't work there. You only know what's reported. Rest assured that's not all there is. There are plenty of rumors around that the administration (Weinberg) has favor with YDR or vice versa. Keep your mind open is all I'm saying, be judgemental but do it slowly.
I hear you, but to me it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the union NOT to make it public if they have voted to re-open the contract. But they may have their reasons.

I agree that you can't believe everything that is in the papers but that would be a pretty big thing to leave out if the union really wanted it published. If the paper didn't publish it then all the union would have to do is call WSBA or FOX 43 or WGAL etc.

I disagree with you that the freeze is coming. Or at least not for this coming school year. At this point I don't think a freeze is going to actually save any hours or benefits for the teachers aids.
Things are just as bad in the following year's budget so maybe the union figures they will try and save face in the final year of their contract.
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Apr 19, 2011
 
They sure are, and I don't see it getting better anytime soon. I agree they should have taken the freeze to begin with, but I understand why they didn't. That 2.7% wouldn't have fixed the overall problem, it would have helped some yes.

There are some tough decisions to be made. It seems to me that nobody in DASD is willing to set aside their EGO and do what's right. Not Weinberg or the teachers. It's become a grudge match on both sides. It's unprofessional, childish, and costing us money. The leadership of the district is ineffective. The leadership of the union is ineffective and unyielding. Both sides are at fault.
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Apr 19, 2011
 
Ronaldus Macdonalus wrote:
They sure are, and I don't see it getting better anytime soon. I agree they should have taken the freeze to begin with, but I understand why they didn't. That 2.7% wouldn't have fixed the overall problem, it would have helped some yes.
There are some tough decisions to be made. It seems to me that nobody in DASD is willing to set aside their EGO and do what's right. Not Weinberg or the teachers. It's become a grudge match on both sides. It's unprofessional, childish, and costing us money. The leadership of the district is ineffective. The leadership of the union is ineffective and unyielding. Both sides are at fault.
I think you are right for the most part. I am no fan of Weinberg but he did say there would be no layoffs when he asked the teachers to take a freeze. Then they said NO.

It's funny. I have been watching the news about these teacher freeze votes around the country. It seems like in most of the cases the teachers vote against the freeze and force others to get laid off. It must be the strategy of the national union.

In extremely rare instances have teachers taken an actual cut in order to save jobs.

I may be crazy but I think Weinberg thought he could work with the teachers and once they blew him off he was determined to show them who was boss.

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