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Dallastown approves preliminary school budget with no tax increase

There are 27 comments on the York Dispatch story from Apr 7, 2011, titled Dallastown approves preliminary school budget with no tax increase. In it, York Dispatch reports that:

The Dallastown Area School Board unanimously approved its $88 million preliminary budget, even as many members said they are far from satisfied with it.

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Yer Craze

Harrisburg, PA

#1 Apr 8, 2011
If people want their 3rd graders to learn to play a string instrument, then they can PAY for them to go to private lessons.
Taxpayer

York, PA

#2 Apr 8, 2011
To Yoder and Potter, do you two not HEAR what the taxpayers have been saying at these town hall meetings???? What part of this do you two not understand??? Control the spending and reduce the cost of education. Dallastown is out of line on their expenditures and the taxpayers are fed up with your lack of fiscal responsibility. Parents can pay for drivers ed for their own children, there is no need for taxpayers to foot the bill on this, drivers ed is not essential to a students taxpayer funded education. The same goes for the 3rd grade strings program, sometimes tough decisions need to be made about what is really needed and essential.

Do all you taxpayers see that both yoder and potter are not on board with controlling spending STILL? after all the town hall meetings. Remember these to tax and spenders at the voting booth!!!
Too little Too late

York, PA

#3 Apr 8, 2011
They still don't get it. They think that they can fool us into re-electing them by tossing us a bone, a one-year hiatus before they go back to the old tax and spend ways.

We don't want a measly one year tax freeze, we want a tax rollback, and we want the current group of big spenders gone.

Spendberg must go. Auction off his Volvo. Cut the band back to 75 members, instead of 325, and sell the excess uniforms and instruments. Cut drivers ed. Cut lacrosse and gymnastics, and sell the equipment. Have a big yard sale and sell the Wiis and the big screen TVs.

We can't afford for our kids to have the best of everything. Pretty good is good enough, and it will still be better than Central and Suburban.
MOVE

Dallastown, PA

#4 Apr 8, 2011
To all of the negative voices on this blog... don't forget that your precious tax dollars are being used to provide your son/daughter with the best education in the area. If you don't like the education they provide or the taxes that you pay, MOVE!!!!
In The Know

Smithsburg, MD

#5 Apr 8, 2011
The budget this year was designed with an election in mind by Stewart Weinberg and the tax and spend majority of the school board.

We were told months ago that it would be dangerous to the school district's credit rating to dip into reserve funds yet over 4 million of them are being used.

That's a deliberate move to eliminate the tax increase in the school board election year.

There's too much spending on salaries and benefits including those that were locked in by the likes of Yoder and Botterbusch for teachers during the school board election year of 2011.
Stop the insanity

Phoenix, AZ

#7 Apr 8, 2011
Too little Too late wrote:
They still don't get it. They think that they can fool us into re-electing them by tossing us a bone, a one-year hiatus before they go back to the old tax and spend ways.
We don't want a measly one year tax freeze, we want a tax rollback, and we want the current group of big spenders gone.
Spendberg must go. Auction off his Volvo. Cut the band back to 75 members, instead of 325, and sell the excess uniforms and instruments. Cut drivers ed. Cut lacrosse and gymnastics, and sell the equipment. Have a big yard sale and sell the Wiis and the big screen TVs.
We can't afford for our kids to have the best of everything. Pretty good is good enough, and it will still be better than Central and Suburban.
Are you high? A yard sale, really? That's your solution to the deficit? Get real. That is not a solution to the problem. We need to get a more fiscally responsible board in and we need to get Weinberg out. How much longer is his contract? We need someone who has the students, taxpayers and parents interests in mind. Not their own personal agendas. I know that won't be easy to find, but I'm sure there is someone out there better equiped.
Frank

York, PA

#8 Apr 8, 2011
We need to get rid of Don Yoder and Ken Potter ASAP vote these idiots out!! The taxpayers had enough of their crap!! I hope the Gov. changes his mind and gets rid of the teachers union, that would be a good start, and cut the fat from the top to the bottom.
George

Washington, DC

#11 Apr 8, 2011
MOVE wrote:
To all of the negative voices on this blog... don't forget that your precious tax dollars are being used to provide your son/daughter with the best education in the area. If you don't like the education they provide or the taxes that you pay, MOVE!!!!
Just imagine how much better that education could be if they werent wasting that money on stuff that has nothing to do with education!
Ronaldus Magnus

United States

#12 Apr 8, 2011
It sure was nice for the Dallastown Teachers Union to vote against the freeze and then fail to offer any alternatives. I wonder if it bothers them that so many of the teachers aides are losing their hours and benefits?

We must insist to our state reps in Harrisburg that teachers should not be allowed to strike.
Yer Craze

Harrisburg, PA

#13 Apr 8, 2011
Ronaldus Magnus wrote:
It sure was nice for the Dallastown Teachers Union to vote against the freeze and then fail to offer any alternatives. I wonder if it bothers them that so many of the teachers aides are losing their hours and benefits?
We must insist to our state reps in Harrisburg that teachers should not be allowed to strike.
Here we go again. Look Stew that BS is only going to work for so long. There are enough of us in the district who see that as an ancillary issue to the LARGER problem. The ridiculous board that refuses to stop spending and awarding teachers huge contracts. The teachers are going to get pushed into a realistic contract. The only way for taxpayers to change the landscape is to remove the money hungry fools on the board now. Hopefully once your stripped of your allies, your control will be lost too. This budget exposes the inability of the board and the management to operate within a realistic budget. Cut the excess and move on. We can't effect teacher salaries by calling them names and blaming them. We can however effect them by putting in a board and a manager that's willing to do what's right to start with. How do you award a raise then blame them for not giving it back? Ridiculous. That people want ot sign off on that and run with it is more ridiculous. Enjoy your free coffee while it lasts.

To the moron telling me to move. I don't have to, I can express my concerns for the district I live in and effect change by voting. The writing is on the wall, if your not for fiscal responsibility and cutting the fat out of the budget, you're out.
Really

Mount Wolf, PA

#16 Apr 8, 2011
Ronaldus Magnus wrote:
It sure was nice for the Dallastown Teachers Union to vote against the freeze and then fail to offer any alternatives. I wonder if it bothers them that so many of the teachers aides are losing their hours and benefits?
We must insist to our state reps in Harrisburg that teachers should not be allowed to strike.
Check your facts moron. Teachers voted to re-open contract and that was only AFTER the teachers' association offered up ideas to save almost $4 million.
Ronaldus Magnus

United States

#17 Apr 11, 2011
Really wrote:
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Check your facts moron. Teachers voted to re-open contract and that was only AFTER the teachers' association offered up ideas to save almost $4 million.
I think you are the one that needs to check your facts. Are you confusing the Dallastown teachers with the York City teachers? York City did vote to open contract but Dallastown has not.
4kids

United States

#18 Apr 11, 2011
Ronaldus Magnus wrote:
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I think you are the one that needs to check your facts. Are you confusing the Dallastown teachers with the York City teachers? York City did vote to open contract but Dallastown has not.
No, there is no confusion & Dallastown did vote to engage in talks with the school board.
Ronaldus Magnus

United States

#19 Apr 12, 2011
4kids wrote:
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No, there is no confusion & Dallastown did vote to engage in talks with the school board.
In late January they voted not to accept a freeze. At that time they said they would be submitting a list of places where the school board could cut so that there would be no layoffs or at least minimal layoffs. I heard they then submitted a list but it was based on incorrect assumptions and so the list was basically no help to the board.

Since then they may have talked privately to the board but I did not hear of any official vote to engage in talks. When did this vote occur? I would think it would be mentioned in one of the local papers.
Ronaldus Magnus

United States

#20 Apr 15, 2011
Really wrote:
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Check your facts moron. Teachers voted to re-open contract and that was only AFTER the teachers' association offered up ideas to save almost $4 million.
Check the facts yourself. I just spoke with a school board member and the only Dallastown teachers' union vote that has been made public is the one in late January when they voted "Overwhelmingly" No (the union's word choice not mine).

Things are pretty heated up right now in Dallastown so the newspapers have been covering it. If there was a new vote to open the contract I think it would be in the paper don't you? If you know of another vote let's hear it.
Ronaldus Magnus

United States

#21 Apr 15, 2011
4kids wrote:
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No, there is no confusion & Dallastown did vote to engage in talks with the school board.
Really? When was this vote? Is it being kept a secret on purpose?
Ronaldus Macdonalus

Harrisburg, PA

#22 Apr 18, 2011
Read your own words dingleberry..."...the only Dallastown teachers' union vote that has been made public..." read what it says. It says that's the only one that was made public. Now read what it does not say. It doesn't say that was the only vote does it.
Ronaldus Magnus

United States

#23 Apr 18, 2011
Ronaldus Macdonalus wrote:
Read your own words dingleberry..."...the only Dallastown teachers' union vote that has been made public..." read what it says. It says that's the only one that was made public. Now read what it does not say. It doesn't say that was the only vote does it.
For about the 5th time I am asking. Please tell me. Don't beat around the bush with name calling etc. Just answer my question.

When was this vote to open the contract?
Ronaldus Macdonalus

Harrisburg, PA

#24 Apr 18, 2011
I didn't know there was one.
Ronaldus Magnus

United States

#25 Apr 18, 2011
Ronaldus Macdonalus wrote:
I didn't know there was one.
That is my point. The Dallastown teachers voted once (late Jan 2011) on whether or not to accept a freeze and the outcome was overwhelmingly NO.

If there was a vote since then to open the contract I haven't heard of it.

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