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Dallastown district, teachers disagree over wage freeze

There are 176 comments on the The York Daily Record story from May 3, 2011, titled Dallastown district, teachers disagree over wage freeze. In it, The York Daily Record reports that:

The Dallastown Area School District and its teachers union have conflicting opinions about wage freeze negotiations that have been taking place.

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Unbelievable

United States

#1 May 3, 2011
Unbelievable!!! See you folks at the bargaining table in two years and its going to be ugly! Ignorant!
Well

York, PA

#2 May 3, 2011
only in dallastown

York, PA

#3 May 3, 2011
I should have gone to school to be a teacher at DASD. The teachers mafia has great pay/benefits , summers off and babysit the children while they send most of the work home for the parents to teach.
olebrowneyes

United States

#4 May 3, 2011
Why does it even need approved?? If we cant work together, quit and go to another school district. Tax payers in this district have been getting the shaft for years.
mac

AOL

#5 May 3, 2011
they have been protected for so long from the real world , it's time the teachers learn what is sustainable and what is not . they would be doing themselves a favor by unloading that dinosaur (union) that's on their back . if you are really good at what you do , you can negotiate on your own and not be held back by a bunch of bottom of the barrel SAT'ers ! the cream always rises to the top , except when a union is involved .
why doesn't anyone ever complain about how much money the union leadership makes ?
Fact Time

York, PA

#6 May 3, 2011
What is unbelievable about an 18 month wage freeze vs. a 12 month band aid that only aids in next year’s budget?(And will not prevent teachers from losing their jobs) This financial abyss that exists because of the administration, Harrison’s technology department, and school board cannot be repaired with a simple one year wage freeze. It has come time for someone to have a longer term plan that is structured with financial intelligence, not financial greed.
The board and administration has proven they do not have the ability or discipline to plan for the future with fiscal responsibility. This plan assures that this district will have certainty of expenses over a longer period of time, save the same amount of money that a straight one year wage freeze provides, as well as allows the board to acquire the ability to budget for one more year with specific financial numbers due to an additional contract year being added. This board cannot make a decision without first asking Weinberg what to do first. I am sure this gutless demeanor will change if certain board members are elected……we need people that have a backbone, intelligence and do what is right for students. As of now Yoder and most of the others are nothing more than an embarrassment to anyone associated with the district.
tax more marylanders

York, PA

#7 May 3, 2011
The teachers make enough now and do less work, but if they really need a raise, then add it to the cost of any house bought by a dirtbag Marylander, because of them I pay more taxes to support the constant growth of the school, not to mention them driving the prices of everything up. They started in Shrewsbury and been spreading north like roaches. Go back to Maryland!
Jealous

Chambersburg, PA

#8 May 3, 2011
How can the board turn down an 18 month pay freeze? How can they not negotiate this? Very sad for the school board, 18 out of 500 Pa districts have taken a pay freeze, personally I think the teachers are crazy to cover up someone's mistake after the way they've been treated through this. NO OTHER DISTRICT HAS RUN TO THE PAPER TO DIS-CREDIT THEIR TEACHERS! Hopefully the taxpayers turn against the board!
No pay raise for 3 years

York, PA

#9 May 3, 2011
School Board stand up to the union and say No more! Let the contract stand and start furloughing teachers. When the classrooms become larger because there are fewer teachers they will only be able to blame themselves. For the last 3 years I was told that there would be no raise because revenue is down. Most of us in the working world aren't given an option we are told this is how it will be. Come on school board, no more options for these teachers! If they don't like it they can find another school district to teach at!
mayhem

York, PA

#10 May 3, 2011
The teachers unions have had a monopoly in education far too long. All the bickering about the pay but the bigger nut are the ridiculous contributions to their pension plans & health care. Let them have their contractual pay increases but make them pay for their health care & 401K plan like the rest of us.
Timmay

York, PA

#11 May 3, 2011
Most teachers are oblivious to reality and honestly believe they actually are worth what they make. These people are afflicted with delusions of grandeur. They are infused with secondary psychosis stemming from years of academia that is devoid of present reality. Coddled folk. Thieves in the least.
The carnage:
http://www.openpagov.org/k12_payroll.asp
frustrated

AOL

#12 May 3, 2011
The school board that approved this way of dealing with DT teachers is Pathetic !

Why not actually try to DISCUSS ways we can WORK TOGETHER to SAVE JOBS and the District MONEY.Dr W has stated to teachers in public --- I WILL NOT NEGOTIATE. How is that for a Leader ?

How and why does Dr W get info that was on the screen at a private Union Meeting and then post it on the District website???
observer

United States

#13 May 3, 2011
Ooh..well played..get the teachers and union to turn on one another..board is smarter than we gave em credit for..but will they fall for it?
Disapponited

Roxbury, PA

#14 May 3, 2011
How greedy can these teachers be? They make way too much already. I wish I could have delays on snow days and not have to worry about traveling in the snow. Plenty of vacation days off around holidays, summers off, etc.
interesting

York, PA

#15 May 3, 2011
Does anyone take notice that several other school districts in York & Lancaster county agreed to simple one year freezes, none have complex freezes, and the Dtown Union has a complex partial year freeze proposal? And they won't put a simple freeze to an up/down vote in front of their membership? Does that smell right to you? The teachers deserve a chance to vote a simple freeze up/down.
Unbelievable

Dallas, TX

#16 May 3, 2011
interesting wrote:
Does anyone take notice that several other school districts in York & Lancaster county agreed to simple one year freezes, none have complex freezes, and the Dtown Union has a complex partial year freeze proposal? And they won't put a simple freeze to an up/down vote in front of their membership? Does that smell right to you? The teachers deserve a chance to vote a simple freeze up/down.
The ASSociation leadership are spitting in the taxpayers face. You watch, a major group of teachers will be retiring in a year or two. Just enough to get pensions at a premium and out befor the war with the board.
Its all about the Greed

United States

#17 May 3, 2011
The cafeteria workers will have to take a $4 per hour pay cut, because the district is going to bring in some food service company to cut costs, but the teachers, can't agree to a pay freeze without adding stipulations or perks for themselves. Shame on them. The paper reported the salaries of Dallastown teachers and many of them are making over $80,000 per year. Come on folks quit being greedy! Greed, that is why this country is in the condition it is in. I had to take a pay cut over a year ago and still lost my job because my company went out of business, but I still have to pay my Dallastown School Taxes...what are my perks and everyone elses in the Dallastown School District?
question

York, PA

#18 May 3, 2011
interesting wrote:
Does anyone take notice that several other school districts in York & Lancaster county agreed to simple one year freezes, none have complex freezes, and the Dtown Union has a complex partial year freeze proposal? And they won't put a simple freeze to an up/down vote in front of their membership? Does that smell right to you? The teachers deserve a chance to vote a simple freeze up/down.
Which ones?

I think EVERY school that took a pay freeze did it to SAVE JOBS and most even got an extra personal day or some other benefit.

It is called WORKING TOGETHER to help the situation.
Anonymous

York, PA

#19 May 3, 2011
The teachers DID agree to a pay freeze!! In fact, the teachers agreed to an EIGHTEEN MONTH pay freeze, followed by another eighteen month freeze at the next step, which is MORE than what the district was asking for. Their one MAJOR condition is NO FURLOUGHS - because the teachers are looking for ways to save the jobs of their fellow teachers, give kids a quality education, AND save the district money. Get your facts straight!

The teachers are not responsible for this budget mess. The teachers don't make the budget. The school board and Dr. Weinberg put together the budget. They are also required to have long range financial plans. There is NO WAY they didn't see this coming when the teacher contracts at Dtown were approved just last year. Why not ask for the wage freeze then?

It's time for the taxpayers in Dallastown to stop sitting around blaming the teachers, and start SHOWING UP at school board meetings demanding answers. It's easy to sit at your computer and read articles in the paper, it's a lot harder to actually go out and take some action! Quit complaining and do something about it!
And the bashing continues

York, PA

#20 May 3, 2011
interesting wrote:
Does anyone take notice that several other school districts in York & Lancaster county agreed to simple one year freezes, none have complex freezes, and the Dtown Union has a complex partial year freeze proposal? And they won't put a simple freeze to an up/down vote in front of their membership? Does that smell right to you? The teachers deserve a chance to vote a simple freeze up/down.
For your information, no other school district simply agreed to a one year wage freeze...they all got something in return, mostly the security of their fellow workers. The reason you are not aware of the negotiations is because their superintendent didn't slander them through the press like Dallastown's Sup. Also, the teachers did have the opportunity to vote on a wage freeze and it was almost unanimous against it. The Sup. is running out of excuses for his lack of leadership and poor spending habits so he has decided to take the school down with him. The public only wants to focus on a scape goat and the teachers have become that out. Feel free to put all of your anger on the teachers, but the bottom line is that the teachers are the ones fighting to keep the programs and their fellow teachers to keep your children's class sizes small. The board has made it known that the money from the wage freeze would not go to keep the teachers, but to be spent on other things. If they were interested in keeping the teachers and programs, they would agree to the no furlough request.

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