AARP endorses House Health Care Plan!

[Lewholt]

Huge endorsement!

[Mr carlos]

hope you like THE CHANGE and lose your job or your welfare check stops

[ANON ME]

I think it's interesting that AARP supports this, most of their members will lose their health coverage if the bill passes. Then, they'll lose all their members. Kinda cutting off their noses.

[Hedge]

That's great. Now the question is if the Blue Dogs will grow a pair and actually vote for the bill.

[Lewholt]

ANON ME wrote:

I think it's interesting that AARP supports this, most of their members will lose their health coverage if the bill passes. Then, they'll lose all their members. Kinda cutting off their noses.

Wrong again. But we'll see if it passes. I bet it passes and AARP will be around for a long time. Someday we'll have to compare our predictions.

[Scott]

Of course AARP endorses the health bill. 60% of their revenue comes from royalties from Medigap coverage via UnitedHealth Group. Once private policies are finished, more seniors will be relying solely on Medicare which only covers 80% and will have to have the Medigap coverage to make up the difference. i.e. AARP gets that much more money and money = influence. One has to ask what their real motivation is.

[Janet]

American Medical Association also endorsed the bill. National nurse health organization endorsed the bill. Lots of health provider organizations endorsed the bill. I love my parents' Medicare. They see great Doctors, get the help they need, have had surgery at some of the best hospitals in the U.S. Thank you AARP, AMA and all of the other provider organizations. You must be a dittohead if you believe that AARP members are going to lose their insurance with health care reform. That is a lie straight out of the Limbaugh, Beck tradition.

[certifiable1]

I am a little disturbed by this endorsement and haven't read anything about endorsing this bill in the last few issues of my AARP magazine. I could have missed it, but to me AARP has been informing its membership about the different aspects of health care reform and lobbying for certain aspects of the bill. If this bill was so good, why wasn't total endorsement brought up before the fact. This just smacks of some kind of "deal" and I wonder just what is involved. I wonder if AARP has gone the way of the Union movement, at first they served their members, then got so large they had to spent all of their energy serving the system.

[bowwow]

certifiable1 wrote:

I am a little disturbed by this endorsement and haven't read anything about endorsing this bill in the last few issues of my AARP magazine. I could have missed it, but to me AARP has been informing its membership about the different aspects of health care reform and lobbying for certain aspects of the bill. If this bill was so good, why wasn't total endorsement brought up before the fact. This just smacks of some kind of "deal" and I wonder just what is involved. I wonder if AARP has gone the way of the Union movement, at first they served their members, then got so large they had to spent all of their energy serving the system.

When Medicare Plus is eliminated, AARP will sell their endorsed suplemental insurance to members. It's all about the money.

[Synergy]

Lewholt wrote:

Huge endorsement!

They sold out. There was a financial motivation just like with the AMA. It's all the same. Nothing to be proud of. I don't really trust any of them. You are the brainwashed one to think that ANYONE in our government gives a tinkers da*m about you and yours. You can be excited all you want, but we're all just pawns. Nothing more.
PS. If you like Nancy Pelosi, you should be taken to the pound and put down. I'm sure her own husband throws up at the sight of her.

[Lewholt]

Synergy wrote:

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They sold out. There was a financial motivation just like with the AMA. It's all the same. Nothing to be proud of. I don't really trust any of them. You are the brainwashed one to think that ANYONE in our government gives a tinkers da*m about you and yours. You can be excited all you want, but we're all just pawns. Nothing more.
PS. If you like Nancy Pelosi, you should be taken to the pound and put down. I'm sure her own husband throws up at the sight of her.

The Pelosi comment was stupid, even for you. Stick to the facts.

[local]

Janet wrote:

American Medical Association also endorsed the bill. National nurse health organization endorsed the bill. Lots of health provider organizations endorsed the bill. I love my parents' Medicare. They see great Doctors, get the help they need, have had surgery at some of the best hospitals in the U.S. Thank you AARP, AMA and all of the other provider organizations. You must be a dittohead if you believe that AARP members are going to lose their insurance with health care reform. That is a lie straight out of the Limbaugh, Beck tradition.

I hope you're a great daughter and pay the extra money they will have to pay for medicare coverage.Then when you help them you find a part-time job to pay the extra tax you'll be paying.Aarp,is a joke they are in this for the money they will make from seniors,looking to them to see if they can get cheaper rates.Aarp is the biggest slum ho's out there.Be careful what you wish for.

[Scott]

Janet wrote:

American Medical Association also endorsed the bill. National nurse health organization endorsed the bill. Lots of health provider organizations endorsed the bill. I love my parents' Medicare. They see great Doctors, get the help they need, have had surgery at some of the best hospitals in the U.S. Thank you AARP, AMA and all of the other provider organizations. You must be a dittohead if you believe that AARP members are going to lose their insurance with health care reform. That is a lie straight out of the Limbaugh, Beck tradition.

Janet, dear, it doesn't come free. It cost $1 trillion. How do you think they are going to pay for it? Good luck getting to see great doctors and scheduling surgery in time for it to do any good once you've dramatically increased the number of people enrolled in the program. Sort of like Social Security. I got a letter stating what I should get, but then estimating what I would get based on how underfunded the program is. Welcome to the reality of government run programs. Yeah, its a great idea to turn over control of 18% of our economy to them, too.
As for AMA, ask your doctors what they think of the AMA's endorsement. Our pediatrician stopped taking medicaid. See how many doctors will follow suit with Medicare.
And you want to run for the school board? Yikes!

[TGVR]

Janet wrote:

American Medical Association also endorsed the bill. National nurse health organization endorsed the bill. Lots of health provider organizations endorsed the bill. I love my parents' Medicare. They see great Doctors, get the help they need, have had surgery at some of the best hospitals in the U.S. Thank you AARP, AMA and all of the other provider organizations. You must be a dittohead if you believe that AARP members are going to lose their insurance with health care reform. That is a lie straight out of the Limbaugh, Beck tradition.

The bill cuts $500 million from Medicare, how is that NOT going to cause those on Medicare to see a reduction in services?

[Lewholt]

TGVR wrote:

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The bill cuts $500 million from Medicare, how is that NOT going to cause those on Medicare to see a reduction in services?

Have you heard about doctors and hospitals overcharging Medicare by the hundreds of millions?

[Mike]

Lewholt wrote:

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Have you heard about doctors and hospitals overcharging Medicare by the hundreds of millions?

Medicare has a rule: if you don't take this medicare patient (and the payments we dictate), you don't get any government assisted patients. Over the years, most payments from medicare have been gradually cut, making it difficult for the doctors and hospitals to make a profit, but to deny medicare is to cut their throat also. So they cheat to make up the difference. It' one of the ways corruption enters the system. I fully expect a similar thing to take place once government healthcare is in place, but it's what we voted for when we elected those who purport to represent us.

Does anyone believe that, when the government takes over healthcare, it will be a clean and affordable system. If so, how will that happen?

[Lewholt]

Mike wrote:

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Medicare has a rule: if you don't take this medicare patient (and the payments we dictate), you don't get any government assisted patients. Over the years, most payments from medicare have been gradually cut, making it difficult for the doctors and hospitals to make a profit, but to deny medicare is to cut their throat also. So they cheat to make up the difference. It' one of the ways corruption enters the system. I fully expect a similar thing to take place once government healthcare is in place, but it's what we voted for when we elected those who purport to represent us.
Does anyone believe that, when the government takes over healthcare, it will be a clean and affordable system. If so, how will that happen?

well, I would expect as most new systems you tweek what doesn't work well and get rid of what doesn't work at all. Business principals I assume. The problem with most government programs is we start them, underfund them, and use poor oversight to manage them. We changed Welfare(a massive program), it functions quite well now. Our military is the greatest in the history of the world. Its not an accident. But any new program needs to be funded, paid for and managed from the get go.

[TGVR]

Lewholt wrote:

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Have you heard about doctors and hospitals overcharging Medicare by the hundreds of millions?

It's not "hundreds of billions", the best estimates out there say it's 60 billion, which is far from the amount of "waste and fraud" proposed to keep healthcare reform from adding to the debt.

[Lewholt]

TGVR wrote:

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It's not "hundreds of billions", the best estimates out there say it's 60 billion, which is far from the amount of "waste and fraud" proposed to keep healthcare reform from adding to the debt.

Theres a lot more there. Its a federal program.

[Synergy]

Lewholt wrote:

<quoted text> The Pelosi comment was stupid, even for you. Stick to the facts.

Point taken. She DOES make me throw up in my mouth a little, however. Sorry.