The T-SPLOST in July

“I am a taxpayer”

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#61 Jul 3, 2012
Yes folks, give your money to Atlanta for the next ten years . As Metro really need it.
What a bunch of crap. Increase you taxes (for ten years) so you can go down town to some kind of a game. I thought all these years they have been telling us to ride Marta because its smarter. Now they want you to drive (pay more taxes) & pay parking to help out the city.
As the man said today about I-20 W I-285 morning traffic problem. Its really not in DC it in Fulton Co.

After the toll road "stick it to ya" thing I wouldn't think government wouldn't have the guts to try something like this. duh!!!!!!

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#62 Jul 3, 2012
taxpayer 112 wrote:
Yes folks, give your money to Atlanta for the next ten years . As Metro really need it.
What a bunch of crap. Increase you taxes (for ten years) so you can go down town to some kind of a game. I thought all these years they have been telling us to ride Marta because its smarter. Now they want you to drive (pay more taxes) & pay parking to help out the city.
As the man said today about I-20 W I-285 morning traffic problem. Its really not in DC it in Fulton Co.
After the toll road "stick it to ya" thing I wouldn't think government wouldn't have the guts to try something like this. duh!!!!!!
The government has no guts they want you and the other taxpayers and non-taxpayers to vote this thing in and tax yourselves.

“I am a taxpayer”

Since: Nov 10

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#63 Jul 4, 2012
What as got to peak your curiosity is where is all the money is coming from for these ads to vote yes?

But what is really importent is that all the people in all 10 countries that are saying NO now get out & vote on 7/31 & not just stay home.

In DC we also need to replace the BOC chairman so we can stop this tax & spend mentality.
His slogan is move ahead (on our money).
Inquiring Mind

Douglasville, GA

#64 Jul 4, 2012
taxpayer 112 wrote:
In DC we also need to replace the BOC chairman so we can stop this tax & spend mentality.
His slogan is move ahead (on our money).
I get the anti-TSPLOST.

But Rita or Jackson-Jones?

Rita, who never met a development she did not like, brought you a SPLOST in 2002.

J-J is a democrat and democrats are all about BIGGER government.

(Republicans can be about bigger government too, but democrats admit it openly)

I do not know of a libertarian candidate so what is your suggestion to replace Worthan?

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#65 Jul 4, 2012
Another golden nugget in the SPLOST that the region that includes Atlanta is try to get passed. Seems they want to let MARTA use this money that is to relive traffic congestion to update the MARTA station at the Airport. You know new flooring, lighting etc etc. Care to explain how the hell this will relieve traffic problems in metro Atlanta?? VOTE NO!!!!!

“I am a taxpayer”

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#66 Jul 5, 2012
Inquiring Mind wrote:
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I get the anti-TSPLOST.
But Rita or Jackson-Jones?
Rita, who never met a development she did not like, brought you a SPLOST in 2002.
J-J is a democrat and democrats are all about BIGGER government.
(Republicans can be about bigger government too, but democrats admit it openly)
I do not know of a libertarian candidate so what is your suggestion to replace Worthan?
A monkey would be better that what we have.
Don't know if you have been to any of the BOC meetings but he (TW) spends money for anything the comes before him. I don't know what you refer to about Rita's developments as I just came to DC in late 02.
But I can sure tell you that TW brought me a millage rate increase of 7.826 & A SPLOST. On top of that he indirectly gets your property appraisal raised to meet(his)budget when the rest of the country is in a recession & cutting there budgets. O yes there has been some very small budget cuts here & there. But just look at the cities & counties that are going bankrupt from there spending.
Got a new foot path in one of the nine parks that we have now after he built another one, new library,guard rails & so on.
Well that's enough about TW. I just didn't want the residents of DC to forget that 7/31 is for more that the T-SPLOST.
Inquiring Mind

Douglasville, GA

#67 Jul 7, 2012
taxpayer 112 wrote:
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A monkey would be better that what we have.
So basically you have no answer.
taxpayer 112 wrote:
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I don't know what you refer to about Rita's developments as I just came to DC in late 02.
You need to research Ms. Rainwater before you vote for her.
taxpayer 112 wrote:
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Don't know if you have been to any of the BOC meetings but he (TW) spends money for anything the comes before him.
I get the idea that you do not have any idea how a county government works. Usually the only things that come up for a vote are ones that will be approved, it is not like the state/federal legislatures.
taxpayer 112 wrote:
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But I can sure tell you that TW brought me a millage rate increase of 7.826 & A SPLOST.
A SPLOST happened under Worthan (and 3 under Rainwater) but it was your fellow citizens that "brought" it to you by voting it in - pure democracy. Increase of "7.826"?? Not possible. The millage rate would have to have been 3 when you started. Millage rates have increased recently but the amount of revenue generated by property taxes has gone down due to lower valuations.
taxpayer 112 wrote:
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On top of that he indirectly gets your property appraisal raised to meet(his)budget when the rest of the country is in a recession & cutting there budgets. O yes there has been some very small budget cuts here & there.
Please provide proof that Worhtan is responsible for increased valuations in DC. I think that the Sentinel said that for 2012 80% of the property in DC lost value while only 5.3% went up (mostly due to improvements to the property).
taxpayer 112 wrote:
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But just look at the cities & counties that are going bankrupt from there spending.
Again, please provide examples of bankrupt governments.
taxpayer 112 wrote:
<quoted text>
Got a new foot path in one of the nine parks that we have now after he built another one, new library,guard rails & so on.
Mostly SPLOST projects - voter approved via a direct vote of your fellow citizens.
taxpayer 112 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well that's enough about TW. I just didn't want the residents of DC to forget that 7/31 is for more that the T-SPLOST.
You are the one that brought the discussion of the Commission Chair into this thread. I wanted a clear understanding as to who you thought would be better than Worthan. You do not have a clue.

Rainwater was Chairman for 3 terms and was rejected (during an economic boom) for a fourth in 2004. Jackson-Jones is a low-level government bureaucrat that has spent her entire career in managing health care; two areas (government, health care) that are not known for keeping costs down.

As I said originally, I understand the anti-SPLOST postings. Local governments and construction companies are spending plenty to convince the voters to approve the tax and there needs to be a response. However, if your anti-Worthan rants got their wish (a Rita or J-J Chairmanship), I think that you will be very disappointed in the result.

Since: Jul 12

Lithia Springs, GA

#68 Jul 7, 2012
Inquiring Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
So basically you have no answer.
<quoted text>
You need to research Ms. Rainwater before you vote for her.
<quoted text>
I get the idea that you do not have any idea how a county government works. Usually the only things that come up for a vote are ones that will be approved, it is not like the state/federal legislatures.
<quoted text>
A SPLOST happened under Worthan (and 3 under Rainwater) but it was your fellow citizens that "brought" it to you by voting it in - pure democracy. Increase of "7.826"?? Not possible. The millage rate would have to have been 3 when you started. Millage rates have increased recently but the amount of revenue generated by property taxes has gone down due to lower valuations.
<quoted text>
Please provide proof that Worhtan is responsible for increased valuations in DC. I think that the Sentinel said that for 2012 80% of the property in DC lost value while only 5.3% went up (mostly due to improvements to the property).
<quoted text>
Again, please provide examples of bankrupt governments.
<quoted text>
Mostly SPLOST projects - voter approved via a direct vote of your fellow citizens.
<quoted text>
You are the one that brought the discussion of the Commission Chair into this thread. I wanted a clear understanding as to who you thought would be better than Worthan. You do not have a clue.
Rainwater was Chairman for 3 terms and was rejected (during an economic boom) for a fourth in 2004. Jackson-Jones is a low-level government bureaucrat that has spent her entire career in managing health care; two areas (government, health care) that are not known for keeping costs down.
As I said originally, I understand the anti-SPLOST postings. Local governments and construction companies are spending plenty to convince the voters to approve the tax and there needs to be a response. However, if your anti-Worthan rants got their wish (a Rita or J-J Chairmanship), I think that you will be very disappointed in the result.
If anyone is interested in actually hearing what the candidates views on TSPLOST are go to this link. This site provides a video of each candidates opinions and views. http://douglasville.patch.com/articles/county...
Inquiring Mind

Douglasville, GA

#69 Jul 7, 2012
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text> If anyone is interested in actually hearing what the candidates views on TSPLOST are go to this link. This site provides a video of each candidates opinions and views. http://douglasville.patch.com/articles/county...
Cliff Notes:

Worthan is for the T-SPLOST.

Rainwater is against it.

But Rainwater gives a reason that flies in the face of facts: Rainwater proudly reminds people about the SPLOTS that passed when she was Chairman when the T-SPLOST is not the major topic of discussion. In the video on Patch she claims that it is "unfair" that elderly people have to pay and people who would not benefit have to pay the T-SPLOST. If you do not use the court system or the parks system in DC you still paid for the SPLOSTS that funded those projects. The SPLOSTS do not have a elderly-do-not-pay clause, everyone pays. So how were those SPLOSTs fair? Why did she support those SPLOSTs?

Apparently Rainwater wants it both ways; she proudly "passed" multiple SPLOSTS when in office but also thinks SPLOTS are unfair. Worthan may be more willing to believe the "facts" from the ARC about the T-SPLOST because of his current involvment in government, but Rainwater is just pandering to the anti-T-SPLOST folks so she can get a job without having to drive to Meriwether County.

Just to be clear; the T-SPLOST should die a horrible death for three reasons:

1) It promises too much

2) It does not completely fund many of the projects

3) The legislature has already shown that it cannot be trusted to end a tax when the tax's stated purpose is completed.

“Home In Georgia Now”

Since: Jul 07

The "City of Gold" in Georgia

#70 Jul 8, 2012
Speaking for those running for Bill Heaths seat NONE of them are in favor of voting for TSPLOST. Heath did the six step bypass answer in that he voted for it to be put up for a vote to LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. In other words he did not have the balls to vote for a tax increase for projects that those in favor or make you think the world will end if they do not get done. Plus they throw in a penalty factor related to road funding to the districts that DO NOT pass this crap. So if the man representing my district will not vote for it WHY THE HELL should anyone vote for it?? I saw this quote the other day and it was something along this line, "The most permanent form of government is a temporary program". Sounds like all SPLOST projects to me. They never go away.

“I am a taxpayer”

Since: Nov 10

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#71 Jul 9, 2012
Inquiring Mind wrote:
<quoted text>
So basically you have no answer.
<quoted text>
You need to research Ms. Rainwater before you vote for her.
<quoted text>
I get the idea that you do not have any idea how a county government works. Usually the only things that come up for a vote are ones that will be approved, it is not like the state/federal legislatures.
<quoted text>
A SPLOST happened under Worthan (and 3 under Rainwater) but it was your fellow citizens that "brought" it to you by voting it in - pure democracy. Increase of "7.826"?? Not possible. The millage rate would have to have been 3 when you started. Millage rates have increased recently but the amount of revenue generated by property taxes has gone down due to lower valuations.
<quoted text>
Please provide proof that Worhtan is responsible for increased valuations in DC. I think that the Sentinel said that for 2012 80% of the property in DC lost value while only 5.3% went up (mostly due to improvements to the property).
<quoted text>
Again, please provide examples of bankrupt governments.
<quoted text>
Mostly SPLOST projects - voter approved via a direct vote of your fellow citizens.
<quoted text>
You are the one that brought the discussion of the Commission Chair into this thread. I wanted a clear understanding as to who you thought would be better than Worthan. You do not have a clue.
Rainwater was Chairman for 3 terms and was rejected (during an economic boom) for a fourth in 2004. Jackson-Jones is a low-level government bureaucrat that has spent her entire career in managing health care; two areas (government, health care) that are not known for keeping costs down.
As I said originally, I understand the anti-SPLOST postings. Local governments and construction companies are spending plenty to convince the voters to approve the tax and there needs to be a response. However, if your anti-Worthan rants got their wish (a Rita or J-J Chairmanship), I think that you will be very disappointed in the result.
Thank you Mr. campaign manager for the re-election of TW & his tax & spend mentality.

As for the T-SPLOST, it is nothing more than smoke & mirrors bs IMO.

As for who replaces TW I could care less as long as it's not him. All politicians only want one thing, that is to see how much money they can suck out of the residents. So they can leave all types of monuments (parks,paths,libraries & so on) to them selves that they can point to when they are out of office.
Hell it beats working for a living.
Go Away

Charleston, SC

#72 Jul 9, 2012
taxpayer 112 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you Mr. campaign manager for the re-election of TW & his tax & spend mentality.
As for the T-SPLOST, it is nothing more than smoke & mirrors bs IMO.
As for who replaces TW I could care less as long as it's not him. All politicians only want one thing, that is to see how much money they can suck out of the residents. So they can leave all types of monuments (parks,paths,libraries & so on) to them selves that they can point to when they are out of office.
Hell it beats working for a living.
To you everyone who supports Tom Worthan is his campaign manager or Tom himself.

What did he do to you personally that fills you with such blind hate?

You claim to hate "tax and spend" politicians yet when presented with info about Worthan's opponents being just that you say that anyone will be better than Worthan.

Please just go away. Your stupid anti-government rants are counterproductive.

Vote no on the T-SPLOST.

“I am a taxpayer”

Since: Nov 10

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#73 Jul 10, 2012
Go Away wrote:
<quoted text>
To you everyone who supports Tom Worthan is his campaign manager or Tom himself.
What did he do to you personally that fills you with such blind hate?
You claim to hate "tax and spend" politicians yet when presented with info about Worthan's opponents being just that you say that anyone will be better than Worthan.
Please just go away. Your stupid anti-government rants are counterproductive.
Vote no on the T-SPLOST.
GAME ON "GO AWAY" bring it on.
IT'S MY OPINION if you don't like it , DON'T READ IT.
As with you we can always count on another campaign speech, right.

Hate is a strong term & I never use it, but I guess it adds personal satisfaction & some panache to your posts. At least in your mind.

“I am a taxpayer”

Since: Nov 10

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#74 Jul 10, 2012
And now back to more of the politicians bs about the T-SPLOST.
They even had to put some politicians wording on the voting ballet (see link below) like going to create so many jobs. There paid for a t/v ad tells you “200 thousand jobs”. Now it comes out (on t/v 11 today) that was just an estimate (guess) of jobs created by the year 2040.
I think that is something like 28 years, duh!!!!!

Aside from the politicians putting wording in the bill that counties voting no would lose some of their transportation dollars as was stated in one of DC BOC meetings by the chairman (who is on that transportation board). "Deal taps Worthan for state transportation authority"
When ask the question, will it be renewed at the end of the 10 years? There answer was only by the voters. The next statement was, but who would want to leave all those half done projects unfinished. I guess that tells you about all you need to know about the Atlanta project called
the (T-SPLOST) right.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/tsplost-...
Go Away

North Charleston, SC

#75 Jul 10, 2012
Well it has been said: Opinions are like a-holes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.

I have spent some time reading some of your posts on this site and I will stop commenting on your posts - your irrational responses are entertaining however.

People ask you questions and you respond with nonsense.

Except for the fact that I own property in Douglas County (and live here) It would be entertaining to see Rita Rainwater or Ramona Jackson-Jones win - just to see what you post about your new Chairman. Same with the T-SPLOST.

Please get a life outside of hating Tom Worthan, you will feel better.

I am outta here!
spencer

Carrollton, GA

#76 Jul 10, 2012
this is another TAX ON WHITE PEOPLE to keep up the filth that lives inside the 285 beltway.There vermin pay NO taxes, giver NOTHING to society,they simply TAKE--TAKE--TAKE.This tac will continue to pay for their healthcare,new trains for them to ride because the DEMOLISHED the old ones , and pay their way for another 10 years.MOHAMMAD REID had his head so far up obamas ass theo ther day when he was in town that if he had farted, MOHAMMADS head would have exploded.

“I am a taxpayer”

Since: Nov 10

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#77 Jul 11, 2012
New updates from the Atlanta project (T-SPLOST). We now hear from (11alive t/v)last night that some projects submitted by some of the 10 counties include, lights for there private airport & others want more side walks, bike & foot paths.
And just think, you can help pay for all of this for the next 10 years each time you buy anything. Just add it to a car,t/v,gas,refrigerators & so on. Them penny's sure do add up don't they.
As we all know already in DC.

“I am a taxpayer”

Since: Nov 10

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#78 Jul 11, 2012
Who was the stupid poster with his head in his butt that made this statement.

"Again, please provide examples of bankrupt governments".

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#48142030
formerresident

Decatur, GA

#79 Jul 11, 2012
Tom Worthan is the most educated as to the big picture. It will take anybody else a lot of time to catch up,

This is not a white black Tax issue. Money is green. We all travel roads.

We need transportation funding from somewhere.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#80 Jul 11, 2012
formerresident wrote:
Tom Worthan is the most educated as to the big picture. It will take anybody else a lot of time to catch up,
This is not a white black Tax issue. Money is green. We all travel roads.
We need transportation funding from somewhere.
Douglas County has tried this before. All this money will be collected by the metro counties and redistributed between them. Douglas County will get only a small portion of it. Do you really think that this is going to work? Do you really think that all this money will not be dished out to Marta, special interest, contractors ,etc? Do you think that most of it won't be wasted as this is a huge amount of money which will be difficult to account where it all came from and where it went? Look at what happened to Douglas Counties the last SPLOST or two. Did they do all the things that they promised? Did they do 50% of what they promised? I have no intention of voting myself a new tax that even the State Legislators are to scared and ashamed to pass on their own. They want you to vote this tax in. Then who can you blame? Not them. Only yourself.

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