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“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#21 Dec 16, 2012
B-Man2 wrote:
I have always been a gun owner and a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment. And I, like most gun owners, are just a little beyond sick and tired of being demonized every time some nutcase shoots someone. As the corny, but true, old saying goes..."sure, you can have my guns....bullets first".
Now you're just making me love you, aren't you??? Another GREAT post!!!!!

Since: Jan 10

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#22 Dec 16, 2012
B-Man2 wrote:
I have always been a gun owner and a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment. And I, like most gun owners, are just a little beyond sick and tired of being demonized every time some nutcase shoots someone. As the corny, but true, old saying goes..."sure, you can have my guns....bullets first".
+1

Or, "You can pry my guns from my cold, dead hands..."
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#23 Dec 16, 2012
This man is an advocate of his 2nd amendment rights.

http://news.msn.com/us/ind-man-with-47-guns-a...
taterhead

Carrollton, GA

#24 Dec 16, 2012
a staged event by the democrats to support gun control.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#25 Dec 16, 2012
taterhead wrote:
a staged event by the democrats to support gun control.
A staged post to support trolling and stupidity.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#26 Dec 16, 2012
Bill in Dville wrote:
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+1
Or, "You can pry my guns from my cold, dead hands..."
Or they can pry crayons and markers from tiny cold dead hands.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#27 Dec 16, 2012
ChicknButt wrote:
This man is an advocate of his 2nd amendment rights.
http://news.msn.com/us/ind-man-with-47-guns-a...
No surprise with you is there? Your still the same old socialist loving let the government do anything it wants person. You use little common sense as you just are a follower and do and think what ever the party tells you to do.
Sorry, but too much common sense prevails this time to let you get away with your B.S.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#28 Dec 16, 2012
Hey!

Here's another example of a fine upstanding gun owner.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/16/californ...
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#29 Dec 16, 2012
Bigdave1 wrote:
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No surprise with you is there? Your still the same old socialist loving let the government do anything it wants person. You use little common sense as you just are a follower and do and think what ever the party tells you to do.
Sorry, but too much common sense prevails this time to let you get away with your B.S.
Quit being narrow-minded. It's a real-world complex problem with no simple answers.

I get that people like owning guns.

Here's the problem. A huge percentage of people out there in the world are substance abusers and/or insane, or at least pretty emotionally troubled. Just look at drug sales to confirm that, both legal drugs for psychiatric problems, and illegal drugs for recreational and abusive use.

A percentage of those insane people can easily get their hands on weapons that can kill a lot of people very quickly. And sometimes they will.

Even so called "responsible" gun owners are often not all that responsible. I was recently in someone's home, a law-enforcement officer (who has a known drinking problem), who has 4 children. I counted 3 weapons just sitting on top of a cabinet in plane sight. One of them was an assault-type rifle. And this is somebody who's been trained extensively in fire-arm protocol.

On the other hand, somebody SHOULD be able to own a hand-gun for home defense. A farmer or rancher SHOULD be able to carry around a rifle on their property, assuming they aren't crazy.

A 20-year old with nothing to lose and a troubled mind SHOULDN'T have any ability to get their hands on an assault rifle and walk into a theater or elementary school. I don't mean it shouldn't happen, I mean it should be impossible to happen.

It's a tricky problem. We need gun control, and you wouldn't want to live in a country without some, but how much and how to go about it is where the problem is.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#30 Dec 16, 2012
You talk a good game but there are gun controls already in place. To purchase a new gun people must be a certain age and have background checks made by the FBI.
The government has restrictions on the type of drugs which can be sold legally and who can buy and sell them. Just how well does that work?
There is a law against murder but men have been killing each other since Cain and Able. How well does that law work?
There was a law against people selling alcoholic beverages called Prohibition, just how well did that work?
Of course you don't want to let a crazy person have a gun but there is no way that you can stop all of them anymore than stopping a person from walking up on you in the street and stabbing you in the back with a knife.
The problem is humans and human nature. Good and evil. Sane and insane.
The only way to eliminate these problems is to eliminate the human race.
Now how sad but true is that?

Since: Nov 12

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#31 Dec 16, 2012
ChicknButt wrote:
<quoted text>
Quit being narrow-minded. It's a real-world complex problem with no simple answers.
I get that people like owning guns.
Here's the problem. A huge percentage of people out there in the world are substance abusers and/or insane, or at least pretty emotionally troubled. Just look at drug sales to confirm that, both legal drugs for psychiatric problems, and illegal drugs for recreational and abusive use.
A percentage of those insane people can easily get their hands on weapons that can kill a lot of people very quickly. And sometimes they will.
Even so called "responsible" gun owners are often not all that responsible. I was recently in someone's home, a law-enforcement officer (who has a known drinking problem), who has 4 children. I counted 3 weapons just sitting on top of a cabinet in plane sight. One of them was an assault-type rifle. And this is somebody who's been trained extensively in fire-arm protocol.
On the other hand, somebody SHOULD be able to own a hand-gun for home defense. A farmer or rancher SHOULD be able to carry around a rifle on their property, assuming they aren't crazy.
A 20-year old with nothing to lose and a troubled mind SHOULDN'T have any ability to get their hands on an assault rifle and walk into a theater or elementary school. I don't mean it shouldn't happen, I mean it should be impossible to happen.
It's a tricky problem. We need gun control, and you wouldn't want to live in a country without some, but how much and how to go about it is where the problem is.
mashed toes strikes again!

"Here's the problem. A huge percentage of people out there in the world are substance abusers and/or insane, or at least pretty emotionally troubled."

So says the GaTech stats expert. Where do u get ur info? Make it up much?

"A percentage of those insane people can easily get their hands on weapons"

They can also buy fertilizer and nails and easily make a bomb. U going to check all the lawn service company records for purchases? They can also drive cars or trucks.

"I counted 3 weapons just sitting on top of a cabinet in plane sight."

U can count? Must b that stats class. Plane site? Is that on the runway or at the gate?

SMH
chicknbutt

Douglasville, GA

#32 Dec 16, 2012
bored monitor wrote:
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mashed toes strikes again!
"Here's the problem. A huge percentage of people out there in the world are substance abusers and/or insane, or at least pretty emotionally troubled."
So says the GaTech stats expert. Where do u get ur info? Make it up much?
"A percentage of those insane people can easily get their hands on weapons"
They can also buy fertilizer and nails and easily make a bomb. U going to check all the lawn service company records for purchases? They can also drive cars or trucks.
"I counted 3 weapons just sitting on top of a cabinet in plane sight."
U can count? Must b that stats class. Plane site? Is that on the runway or at the gate?
SMH
Good lord, you're the perfect example of a stupid and emotionally diseased person. Exactly the type that shouldn't have access to high rate of fire weapons.
runninghot

Douglasville, GA

#33 Dec 16, 2012
chicknbutt wrote:
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Good lord, you're the perfect example of a stupid and emotionally diseased person. Exactly the type that shouldn't have access to high rate of fire weapons.
Actually you sound exactly like the person that you just described. You just make it up as you go along don't you?
runninghot

Douglasville, GA

#34 Dec 16, 2012
By the way, You sound like a person that works for Mayor Bloomberg of New York City. Bloomberg thinks he has the right to tell everyone how to live their lives and what they can and can't eat or drink. Everyday he seems to be coming out with more and more dictatorial rules he makes up. He actually thinks, Do as I say as I am a rich smart elitist dictator of New York. Do you work for Him?
taterhead

Marietta, GA

#35 Dec 16, 2012
if you live in new york you can no longer buy a coke over 8 ounces.I wonder if you can buy 2 at a time?
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#36 Dec 16, 2012
Before you guys start acting like complete idiots (oops, too late), let's just take a moment to reflect on what happened here.

A man grabbed an assault rifle and 100's of rounds of ammo. He walked into an elementary school and killed 20 kindergartners and 1st graders and their principal and teachers. He left no wounded, only tiny corpses. Each kid was shot twice. The 5-year olds that were in other classes had to walk past the massacred bodies to leave the school. 20 sets of parents had to bury their childrens mutilated bodies in the ground. Hundreds of kids will be traumatized for the rest of their lives.

I'd call that a fairly serious failure on the part of our current gun control methods. Discussing ways to improve them is not a ridiculous topic in light of the world we now live in.
ChicknButt

Douglasville, GA

#37 Dec 16, 2012
Winchester 73

Decatur, GA

#38 Dec 16, 2012
ChicknButt, You have a good point for tonight at least. I watched the memorial service tonight. For an average person like me, it was very sobering. When the names of the kid's first names were read individually, it just grabbed at me.

All this hyperbole I'm reading here seems to be driven not by people who are totally unreasonable, but people who have a mindset that you can't talk to.

D'ville Topix is an interesting place to visit, but it's not the pulse of America.
DvilleBob

Atlanta, GA

#39 Dec 17, 2012
This is the stuff you never really hear about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch... #!

http://gunssavelives.net/

The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by police is 14.29

The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a civilian is 2.33

http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31/auditing...
DvilleBob

Atlanta, GA

#40 Dec 17, 2012
Before you support more gun control you should be sure you fully understand what your wishing for and make sure you research the subject.

What happened when guns were banned in England....
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Proof gun controls kill people....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

If you really want to understand the facts about guns and gun control you need to read this comprehensive report.
http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/6.1/g...

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