Police try to cool gang rivalry after...

Police try to cool gang rivalry after biker shootings

There are 46 comments on the Aberdeen American News story from Aug 9, 2006, titled Police try to cool gang rivalry after biker shootings. In it, Aberdeen American News reports that:

Law officers at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally are trying to quell an old, violent rivalry between the Hells Angels and Outlaws motorcycle gangs.

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charlene hill

AOL

#1 Aug 12, 2006
i think this is very childish.
patti

AOL

#2 Aug 15, 2006
i live out here and i thunk if this is what we have to deal with then the bikers can just stay put of the black hills they hve wore out there welcome this year
PIXI

AOL

#3 Aug 16, 2006
SCREW YOU. IF IT WASN'T FOR US BIKERS, ALOT OF YOU PEOPLE WOULD STARVE WITHOUT OUR FINANCES AT STURGIS RALLY.
PIXI

AOL

#4 Aug 16, 2006
IF IT WASN'T FOR US BIKERS, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ALL THE REVENUE COMING IN FROM THE RALLY. THEN, MOST OF YOU BUSSINESS PEOPLE WOULD GO BANKRUPT. SO YOU SHOULD SAY THANK YOU TO THE BIKERS.
PIXI

AOL

#5 Aug 16, 2006
charlene hill wrote:
i think this is very childish.
I BET YOU ARE EVEN MORE CHILDISH, NON BIKER CIVILIAN.
SDGAL

Freeman, SD

#6 Aug 17, 2006
PIXI wrote:
IF IT WASN'T FOR US BIKERS, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ALL THE REVENUE COMING IN FROM THE RALLY. THEN, MOST OF YOU BUSSINESS PEOPLE WOULD GO BANKRUPT. SO YOU SHOULD SAY THANK YOU TO THE BIKERS.
AMEN-Live in SD and had a business- always said I would trade EVERY bitchy local person for the polite, complimentary bikers I ever dealt with!
Sick of Defenders

Herndon, VA

#7 Aug 17, 2006
PIXI wrote:
SCREW YOU. IF IT WASN'T FOR US BIKERS, ALOT OF YOU PEOPLE WOULD STARVE WITHOUT OUR FINANCES AT STURGIS RALLY.
Well then ass****, if they are going to be there, then ACT LIKE AN ADULT, NOT A THUG!!!!

We own bikes, BUT we don't go gun slinging like gansters in the ghetto. Dig?
Jo Dawg

United States

#8 Aug 20, 2006
There were fewer violent incidents reported in Sturgis during that week than there were reported in the same week in Baltimore, Washington D.C., Chicago, NYC, San Diego, OKC, Phoenix, New Orleans, L.A., Dallas, Houston, etc... Wait, let's try smaller towns with similar population to make it easier on the mathmatically challenged... Colorado Springs for example. Don't believe me? Look it up. Now adjust the numbers per capita.

Oh, please don't forget to include the arsons, kidnappings, rapes, burglaries, thefts and burglaries, drive-by shootings, drugs and guns incidents, assaults, etc. when you calculate those crime numbers. Even if you don't include all of the statistical numbers, the level of crime per capita at Sturgis was incredibly small considering the enormous "thug" biker element that was in attendence.

Gee, I guess the bikers in Sturgis weren't the most violent offenders in the nation afterall.... Maybe if the entire nation was one of Brotherhood, there would be less uncontrollable crime? Then again, maybe we should leave it the way it is. After all, you'd feel safer letting your 13 y.o. daughter get on the subway alone in NYC or walk to school down an alley in D.C. at night, than carefully escorted home by a thundering pack of overly-protective bikers (mostly parents), right?

Get a clue AND educated before you spew nonsense about "thugs". Chances are you have no idea what a "thug" actually is since you believe a biker at Sturgis or a member of a Brotherhood automatically should be labled as one.

A few incidents between individuals do NOT equate to the mass rivalry and carnage by "thugs" anyone (including the ever-questionably-accurate-pre ss) may allude to. If they did, then we should send in the troops to any of the cities listed above to regain control instead of sending them overseas to fight in the sandbox.

The fact that this thread was even given a forum to comment on is ridiculous, and the negative commentary on bikers is even more-so.

-- Jo Dawg
Bondo

Hannibal, MO

#9 Aug 20, 2006
Yo JO Dawg

Look back at the crime rate in Sturgess befor the bikers hit town, It is a shame that the scumb-bags causing all the trouble at the Rally think they are the only ones who spend monies there. Wake up Las Vegas was once a mafia run business now its all corporate owned. Sturgess was for a long time attended by mostly undesireable types but now things have changed and if the people have to hire more cops and toughenthings to root out the shit bags causing trouble , They will and their revenues will grow and the rally will go on .
a HOG Member 1988
Jo Dawg wrote:
There were fewer violent incidents reported in Sturgis during that week than there were reported in the same week in Baltimore, Washington D.C., Chicago, NYC, San Diego, OKC, Phoenix, New Orleans, L.A., Dallas, Houston, etc... Wait, let's try smaller towns with similar population to make it easier on the mathmatically challenged... Colorado Springs for example. Don't believe me? Look it up. Now adjust the numbers per capita.
Oh, please don't forget to include the arsons, kidnappings, rapes, burglaries, thefts and burglaries, drive-by shootings, drugs and guns incidents, assaults, etc. when you calculate those crime numbers. Even if you don't include all of the statistical numbers, the level of crime per capita at Sturgis was incredibly small considering the enormous "thug" biker element that was in attendence.
Gee, I guess the bikers in Sturgis weren't the most violent offenders in the nation afterall.... Maybe if the entire nation was one of Brotherhood, there would be less uncontrollable crime? Then again, maybe we should leave it the way it is. After all, you'd feel safer letting your 13 y.o. daughter get on the subway alone in NYC or walk to school down an alley in D.C. at night, than carefully escorted home by a thundering pack of overly-protective bikers (mostly parents), right?
Get a clue AND educated before you spew nonsense about "thugs". Chances are you have no idea what a "thug" actually is since you believe a biker at Sturgis or a member of a Brotherhood automatically should be labled as one.
A few incidents between individuals do NOT equate to the mass rivalry and carnage by "thugs" anyone (including the ever-questionably-accurate-pre ss) may allude to. If they did, then we should send in the troops to any of the cities listed above to regain control instead of sending them overseas to fight in the sandbox.
The fact that this thread was even given a forum to comment on is ridiculous, and the negative commentary on bikers is even more-so.
-- Jo Dawg
Ripper

New Rockford, ND

#10 Aug 20, 2006
The actions of a few get the blame pushed on to the majority by so many. Funny how the rally survived all the years before the corporations saw the value in exploiting it into a cash flow for themselves.
Bondo

Hannibal, MO

#11 Aug 21, 2006
Are we talking about the same thing here ? Somehow I just don't see M G M Grand Hotel or Trump Tower going to South Dakota for a once a year event.

What I was getting to is there are a lot more people showing up and that is revenue for the towns there and if needed they will have more police presence , so if the clubs cant keep things under control they make it bad everyone not the blame part but the police and tickets , why cant they have a cease fire while the rally is on then when everyone has left then go back to their Bullshit ?

Otherwise police may start a crackdown and every one who even looks like an Angel , outlaw or bandito Will start being hasseled no matter what they were doing, Imagine that stopped and name check searched dont sound like fun to me , and what a way to get them off the road for good. Traffic offenders hibitual offenders license revolked, And bingo jail time for riding while revolked , And some law enforcement agency's whouldn't mind that at all.
Ripper wrote:
The actions of a few get the blame pushed on to the majority by so many. Funny how the rally survived all the years before the corporations saw the value in exploiting it into a cash flow for themselves.
Nessmuk

Chattanooga, TN

#12 Aug 22, 2006
Bondo,
Maybe that's your problem. Your a HOG member.So you OWN a harley.Maybe you should join a riders organisation. You owners are the ones I see that do the most griping. Try riding your scoot once in a while, not just owning it. You sound like one of those Starbucks drinking Harley botique hangouts to me. How many miles do you have on your trailer?
JustSomeStranger

United States

#13 Aug 22, 2006
I really think the shootings that took place would have taken place even if the "parties" involved weren't at the Sturgis Rally, if not here, then, somewhere else.
As for the comment about "wore out the welcome"... I've been to a few rallys in a few differant states but never felt the "un-welcomeness" that was ever so present at Sturgis this year. 4 bucks for a glass of lemmonade, 7 bucks for a burger and up to 30 bucks for a tee-shirt???? thats not a welcome, thats a poor excuse for a "stupid tax"! Not to mention the "welcoming" committee that was so present on the 7 mile ride out toward the Full Throttle Salon on Saturday night.
As Bondo pointed out, the crime count was not out of proportion to the head count that was present, but the locals would have wanted to cry if there would have been only ONE incident anyway.
Thanks Sturgis, for the rallys gone by of yesteryear, they've been "legends" no doubt, but as all "Legends" do, this one too should just Die. The pi**ing and moaning of the locals, the hostilities of the rivals, and the "stupid tax" that abounds such an affair should be signs enough that the time has come to start over somewhere else. WE (wife and I) won't be back as rally enthusiast, you know... theres a lot of places just as pretty to go ride and not feel the disdain thats expressed by the attitude and actions of the "citizens" here... "30 year RIDING VET."
Bondo

Hannibal, MO

#14 Aug 23, 2006
Very well said and so true , But like everything else trying to get all the riders to agreewould be quite an undertaking. I do believe it could be done through the Harley dealerships and HOG magizine and abate chapters spreading the word and of course finding a place that has some history even if its an old time Kansas cattle town, that could use the infusion of a few million into their economy. Pricing was so far out of kilter that you dont wanna come their again.

The thing that I liked was wall drugs Ice water is free and the coffee is still 5 cents
JustSomeStranger wrote:
I really think the shootings that took place would have taken place even if the "parties" involved weren't at the Sturgis Rally, if not here, then, somewhere else.
As for the comment about "wore out the welcome"... I've been to a few rallys in a few differant states but never felt the "un-welcomeness" that was ever so present at Sturgis this year. 4 bucks for a glass of lemmonade, 7 bucks for a burger and up to 30 bucks for a tee-shirt???? thats not a welcome, thats a poor excuse for a "stupid tax"! Not to mention the "welcoming" committee that was so present on the 7 mile ride out toward the Full Throttle Salon on Saturday night.
As Bondo pointed out, the crime count was not out of proportion to the head count that was present, but the locals would have wanted to cry if there would have been only ONE incident anyway.
Thanks Sturgis, for the rallys gone by of yesteryear, they've been "legends" no doubt, but as all "Legends" do, this one too should just Die. The pi**ing and moaning of the locals, the hostilities of the rivals, and the "stupid tax" that abounds such an affair should be signs enough that the time has come to start over somewhere else. WE (wife and I) won't be back as rally enthusiast, you know... theres a lot of places just as pretty to go ride and not feel the disdain thats expressed by the attitude and actions of the "citizens" here... "30 year RIDING VET."
nessmuk

Dalton, GA

#15 Aug 23, 2006
it was not the OWNER bondo that pointed out the proportions man. it was Jo Dawg. you owners dont need to attend any rally except the one at your local STEALER. They have one every weekend for you whinney Butts.You can show off your blue lights that shine on your motor there. Die hards made the rally, and they OWN the rally.STAY HOME WHERE YOU BELONG. DONT COME NEXT YEAR. It's for bikers, not POSERS.how many miles are on your trailer?
nessmuk

Dalton, GA

#16 Aug 23, 2006
PS...Go to the STEALER. T-shirts are still $30.00
nessmuk

Dalton, GA

#17 Aug 23, 2006
PSS...I'm sure you'll like that too.....
Big Don

Denver, CO

#18 Aug 25, 2006
What Patti said !!
porky

Hampshire, IL

#19 Aug 26, 2006
Like they told me in boot camp you always have th 10%ers that give every group a bad name!! all Hells angels member's are'nt bad its just 10% that give the rest a bad name!!
Enough of the rivalry bikers,is'nt banding together what biking's all about,grow up biker thugs!!
Bondo

Hannibal, MO

#20 Aug 28, 2006
NESSMUK You sound like a poker run freak is that what you do all year hang at the local harley shop so long thet passers by even know your name ? Bet you know all the route's for the runs and do it for the lunch . I have never trailered and don,t think I ever will no point in going if your not rideing.
nessmuk wrote:
it was not the OWNER bondo that pointed out the proportions man. it was Jo Dawg. you owners dont need to attend any rally except the one at your local STEALER. They have one every weekend for you whinney Butts.You can show off your blue lights that shine on your motor there. Die hards made the rally, and they OWN the rally.STAY HOME WHERE YOU BELONG. DONT COME NEXT YEAR. It's for bikers, not POSERS.how many miles are on your trailer?

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