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Man fatally shot, another stabbed in Curtis Bay

There are 33 comments on the The Baltimore Sun story from Sep 6, 2009, titled Man fatally shot, another stabbed in Curtis Bay. In it, The Baltimore Sun reports that:

One man was fatally shot and another person was stabbed in Curtis Bay on Friday night, a Baltimore police spokeswoman said.

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curtisbay01

Suitland, MD

#1 Sep 6, 2009
Doesn't suprise me. No police patrols. Open air drug dealers with no enforcement. The police sit at the 711 on patapsco all night and sleep. No foot patrols. The park always has dealers in it and the police know about it and do nothing to stop it. The amped up patrols that the police promised after according to fox 45 news only the day after the murder. The police have the manpower to send officers to protect federal hill or the inner harbor but not enough for a community that is not rich. Time for the normal person to go.
a good friend

Baltimore, MD

#2 Sep 8, 2009
its sad this boy had a beautiful one year daughter he was a good person
curtisbay01

Suitland, MD

#3 Sep 8, 2009
It is sad that a father had to be murdered. Curtis Bay has gotten worse year after year. Nobody in the community wants to hear the truth. The police doesn't care. The city doesn't care. If a murder happened in the inner harbor it would be prime time reporting, but since it is in an already drug infested area its the same old same old. People need to either fight back or move out. I know me and my family have talked about moving after this happened. It has become unsafe and more of a liking to west baltimore.
The Watchman

Baltimore, MD

#4 Sep 10, 2009
I've got a birds eye view of the park and will make sure to keep the dealers from taking over again. This has to stop and it must end now.
I look at it this way. The cops can't sit at one spot and micro manage a small area all the time. We as a community need to stand up and fight for what is ours. If we continue to turn a blind eye and let things continue we only have ourselves to blame.
When I was a kid my mother always knew where I was ..... kids now can run around doing whatever and whenever ..... no wonder they grow up with the same ideals they were raised up to believe. Then you get this viral mentality that anything goes and it doesn't matter who gets hurt.
If each block around Curtis Bay has at least one some what observant individual who can alert the police and is not afraid to speak up we'd probably be a better community.
No more blind eyes = no more problems. Put a spot light on the criminals and watch them head for the hills.
curtisbay01

Suitland, MD

#5 Sep 16, 2009
The fact is the cops do not sit in curtis bay at all. They sit in brooklyn. My tax dollars pay for them to protect and serve the public. Yes, the community can help but I'm not doing what the police supposed to be doing. The police can micro manage the inner harbor or federal hill after a shooting, but they can't do it here. There is no tax revenue being generated in curtis bay because more than half of the people are on welfare or some kind of public assistance. People need to wake up and see that the city and police dept. are screwing us.
women with a heart

Baltimore, MD

#6 Sep 18, 2009
What ever happened to compassion and a conscience? The man that got killed there Sept 4th was someones daddy,son,brother,friend,nephe w,cousin and for gods sake, a human being. This could have happened to anyone living in that neighborhood, but no called 911. the residents are giving the criminals just want they want;freedom to to what they want to anyone they please.Someone knows or seen something that evening that could be vital in taking a murderer off the streets,THE STREETS OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD!! You would think a tip to crime stoppers, a program where you don't have to give your name, would cross the mind of a witness and at the same time ease their mind. The person who did this is ruthless, so as you walk your neighborhood, i pray you never have an encounter with him. But you never know, the 23 year old that lost his life- he didn't know.
curtisbay01

Suitland, MD

#7 Sep 18, 2009
The murderer was caught days ago. The victim wasn't a saint and had a criminal record. Both men had drug related criminal records. He was a human being, but was involved with the wrong side of life. The majority of people in curtis bay have no care because they don't appreciate where they live because everything is being handed out to them. If the majority were homeowners and actually worked to pay for a home, then curtis bay would be a better place to live. I have no compassion for criminals that are destroying the community around me and my family. On my block, me a strong few on neighbors, do not tolerate prostitution, drug dealers, drug addicts and trash. We sit out every night and protect our block. I suggest that everyone does the same. I suggest that the people grow a pair and stand up for what is right, instead of supporting what criminal activity is happening right in plain sight. I want the city and the police and the community association to do a hell of alot more. I have expressed my concerns to all 3 months ago and predicted that their would be a murder because of an increase in drug dealing and activity. No body listens and nobody cares. There is too much politics between those groups that they ignore the obvious. Until there was an actual murder, they opened their eyes but only temporarily. The active police patrols only lasted 3 days after the murder and dealers are back selling drugs in broad daylight. The president, Andy Adize is a puppet and plays along to whatever the city does insted of pushing back and demanding more police and city accountability. He goes along with the half ass effort and refuses to believe that crime is getting worse in curtis bay. Change in community leadership and a change in city attitude towards curtis bay is needed. Before someone else is murdered.
women with a heart

Baltimore, MD

#8 Sep 18, 2009
Curtisbay01,I feel your pain. It must be rough living in a neighborhood as a homeowner and watch it fall apart around you. I spoke to an officer that patrols that area and he stated that they treat curtis bay, brooklyn and one more area as one sector. Let's say if someone in Brooklyn called 911, it could be a matter of ten min. before a patrolman arrived, depending where he was located at the time. I don't live in curtis bay or the surrounding area but i do live in the city and your right the community needs to be involved before things turn around. Good luck with that. As for the young man that was murdered, your right he was not a saint and did have a record but on this particular day, he and his girlfriend were on their way home to get their baby. regardless of his past, at that present time he was doing nothing wrong. yea, he fought but damn he did not deserve to be killed by a shotgun blast to the chest! And for the record no one has been charged in his death as of 9:00pm. Unfortantly, he's still loose in your neighborhood. Peace and blessing to you.
curtisbay01

Suitland, MD

#9 Sep 19, 2009
Another shooting tonite. Possible murder. DMI vs. the crips, from what i heard on the street and more to come. Its funny how gangs will gather around a crime scene around the police and the police hear it have not a care in the world. Unreal. I spoke to family and we are moving. Maj. Bloodsworth said a different story, but he did say there was no charges placed on that person so it makes sense what you say women with heart. From what i have been told, David was DMI and the crips killed him. The person killed today was crips. The community of Brooklyn and curtis bay is broken. Alot of people are in denial. Drastic changes are needed. I'm sad to say but I predict it will only get worse. In both communities. We are not in a high rent sector so the city doesn't care. Its the truth that people cannot comprehend and regardless of what is stated at a police press conference. I see it every day and I'm sure you do as well. I have sent the emails and made the calls and no one cares. I have spoke to an officer who has told me only one officer per shift is assigned to curtis bay and brooklyn and back up units are available if needed. I go to the cross st. market and 4 patrolman are in the market walking back and forth to make sure people are safe. My community association refuses to demand more patrols and believe every b.s lie that comes out of the city and police depts. mouth. They nod their head up and down and agree to everything. The brooklyn - curtis bay coalition is a joke. Period. They refuse to hear the truth and i have been told that I have no f'ing clue about what happens in curtis bay. I am younger than most and i grew up in a different era which is what we see today. I know what goes on because i have seen it all of my life. they community association members and board members refuse to acknowlege what I say because they feel i know better. i have emails and I'm willing to send them to you and anyone that spells out the truth, and the response they have given me. 2 lives in the past month could have been prevented by people hearing what i had to say and demanding a stronger police presence which never happened. I explained what i see and what ihear and i was ignored by a bunch of jerks who think they have it all figured out. Sorry to all but the gangs are hear and retaliation will most likely happen again. I am not part of the criminal element but its pretty crazy that people are willing to spill information in the open after a murder. Only here in baltimore.
Another Mothers Tears

Baltimore, MD

#10 Sep 19, 2009
I'm the mother of the 23 yr.old male murdered on 9-4-09 at 10:15p.m. in the curtis bay area. Does it really matter which area our loved ones are dying in? I think not! What matters is that we as a nation,a state,a city,and a neighborhood are failing. Failing to live up to our responsilities in our communities, our families, as well as our right to live in freedom without fear. It seems we take the easier route. We don't come forward to fight or or stand up for what we feel or know is right. Rather we stand behind closed doors and say nothing to crimes committed directly before our own eyes. We do this to feel safe. But i ask "Do you feel safer because you see and don't tell?" We all know we're not safer using these methods. We just become undercover cowards. If this were your child murdered, gunned down would you favor the same cowards that you now whisper the truth too? Would you then question why there was no call for help? Or does it only matter when the lost loved one has the same blood as yourself? If so, my prayers go out to you as a human! See, our youths, yes our youths, are not fighting to better our country; their not fighting to put food on the table of our loved ones; their not even fighting because our skin and religion are different. Wake up! Their fighting because one may live 2 inches the wrong way on a block! Hello, not their blocks but the TAXPAYERS blocks! They are killing because of an image projected to them of what "a real man" should be. Most of all, their killing and dying over a product that we're allowing to kill many of us anyway. Who's really winning? Is this the message we as elders are teaching? Is there not freedom and justice in america? This young father killed was my only son and i loved him. We need him here but because of a fight, someone felt the need to take his life. For what? Braggin rights, did you feel humiliated or are you so misled that killing my baby made you feel like"the man". I don't wish this pain on anyone let alone a mother. I do pray that someone will stand up to this misguided and misled plague of fear in which our souless humans are trying to in bed within us.
Bwigg

United States

#11 Sep 20, 2009
I'm not one to post blogs or anything. Not even one to try and make sense of the madness that's all but part of the cruel and dangerous bowels of hell that we call this city. But I knew David and his family very well. A son, a father, a nephew, a cousin, a brother...anything else was incorporated from the streets - if that was the case.

But we have to understand that this young man was cut down not even at his prime. Way too soon to even begin to understand the meaningless of his death. Was it colors, was it jealousy, was it envy...who really gives a fuck!!! This man has a kid that will grow without him!!!!!! This should be the focus.

There was a time when Bmore had no gangs. The only iniation was to be able to come off of your steps and hold your own. You had to be crafty, clever and cagey in order to survive on the streets. You had to be shrewd, but humble. Tough, yet sensitive. The only color was green - that money!!! Now there are so many different colors out there that it seems as though every guy has ditched the green in favor of these misguided approaches to what it means to survive the streets.

David is gone and his family will hurt for a very long time. A murderer, if he's lucky, will face a jury and go to prison for the rest of his life and his family will hurt just as hard. Knowing David's mother and his Aunt the way I do, I am sure they will console the other's family as if they were their own. Two souls lost to the ever growing list of senselessness that has gotten out of control.

I remember a time when Bmore had no gangs...
The Watchman

Westminster, MD

#12 Sep 20, 2009
We as a community effort struck gold last night and the police ambushed quite a few dealers. We will be meeting with the police in our area to make more changes Curtis Bay wide in the very near future.
It's a slow change and it took alot of pushing to get some action here but it is happening. Now we have a Sargent making regular visits here and making the dealers and other degenerate trash see themselves for what they are.
Before I moved in the people here were fet up but now our block is on fire with a vigilant nature. We got rid of one dealer house and are working on the next and the next....... it's not gonna stop just here.
Empower yourselves as individuals and rise up. Be it with your phones, making calls to the police, or just a presence on your block. Let the criminals know that they are being watched.
We installed motion sensors,cameras and brighter front porch lights. The police brought a light for the park so the filth can't hide in the shadows.
Rumors aren't the only things that grow in the dark.
The Watchman

Westminster, MD

#13 Sep 20, 2009
Another Mothers Tears wrote:
I'm the mother of the 23 yr.old male murdered on 9-4-09 at 10:15p.m. in the curtis bay area. Does it really matter which area our loved ones are dying in? I think not! What matters is that we as a nation,a state,a city,and a neighborhood are failing. Failing to live up to our responsilities in our communities, our families, as well as our right to live in freedom without fear. It seems we take the easier route. We don't come forward to fight or or stand up for what we feel or know is right. Rather we stand behind closed doors and say nothing to crimes committed directly before our own eyes. We do this to feel safe. But i ask "Do you feel safer because you see and don't tell?" We all know we're not safer using these methods. We just become undercover cowards. If this were your child murdered, gunned down would you favor the same cowards that you now whisper the truth too? Would you then question why there was no call for help? Or does it only matter when the lost loved one has the same blood as yourself? If so, my prayers go out to you as a human! See, our youths, yes our youths, are not fighting to better our country; their not fighting to put food on the table of our loved ones; their not even fighting because our skin and religion are different. Wake up! Their fighting because one may live 2 inches the wrong way on a block! Hello, not their blocks but the TAXPAYERS blocks! They are killing because of an image projected to them of what "a real man" should be. Most of all, their killing and dying over a product that we're allowing to kill many of us anyway. Who's really winning? Is this the message we as elders are teaching? Is there not freedom and justice in america? This young father killed was my only son and i loved him. We need him here but because of a fight, someone felt the need to take his life. For what? Braggin rights, did you feel humiliated or are you so misled that killing my baby made you feel like"the man". I don't wish this pain on anyone let alone a mother. I do pray that someone will stand up to this misguided and misled plague of fear in which our souless humans are trying to in bed within us.
It's sad and that's why I feel responsible for the little ones who play across from my house. They should never have to hear gunfire or be approached by a dealer. The only thing these little souls should be are kids. I notice more now that parents are going there with their children as well .

I'd been screaming that as a society we are going into moral bankruptcy and this beast mentality our youth have is so viral and hard to break. It took years to get where we are and it's gonna be a long road to fix all that has been broken.

My thoughts and prayers go out to you.
The Watchman

Westminster, MD

#14 Sep 20, 2009
On a final note as I sit here and enjoy the temporary silence of the night.
Not too long ago a man killed thousands of people with several planes and we declared him a terrorist. Shouldn't the dealers and the gangs be considered as such also?
As American's it is our responsibility to stop the terrorism on our own soil. Don't just look the other way. Would our men and women overseas look the other way in the face of the enemy?
These degenerate scum are basically terrorists they work on a slower and smaller scale but I rank them along the same scale and so should everyone.
curtisbay01

Suitland, MD

#15 Sep 21, 2009
The dealers and gang members here in curtis bay are terrorists. Everybody needs to grow a pair and work with police and rid these people off the streets. These 2 murders in the past month should be curtis bay's 9/11. Its time to act.
The Watchman

Westminster, MD

#16 Sep 21, 2009
Besides Curtisbay01 and I .... is anyone else up for actually standing up to this crap. Tell your family and friends.Talk to your neighbors. If the neighbors are the problem make the call. If they rent get on the horn to the tax ascessor to find out who owns the property. If it's under HUD there's a one strike rule.If it's not I'm sure the landlord doesn't want a criminal tenant anyway.

Spread the word of "Not taking it anymore".
curtisbay01

Suitland, MD

#17 Sep 21, 2009
I agree the watchman. Power is in numbers. The people reading this, if you see crimes call the police. I proudly give my name to the police because I'm not living in fear and I refuse to take all of this crap no more.
madlady

State College, PA

#18 Sep 21, 2009
Curtisbay01 and The Watchman, Good luck to you and you neighborhood. HOWEVER, I wish you would have had all this power two weeks ago "NOT TAKING IT ANYMORE" "POWER IS IN NUMBERS" I may have still had my loved one.
The Watchman

Westminster, MD

#19 Sep 22, 2009
madlady wrote:
Curtisbay01 and The Watchman, Good luck to you and you neighborhood. HOWEVER, I wish you would have had all this power two weeks ago "NOT TAKING IT ANYMORE" "POWER IS IN NUMBERS" I may have still had my loved one.
I just moved here from Brooklynn Park about a month ago. As soon as I realized the crisis here I started talking to my neighbors and the local police. We had FOX news out here the day after the shooting and that's when things actually came into play with the police and the neighborhood working together.
I saw the start of that fatal night. A group of people fighting under the gazebo, a man stabbed being taken to the fire station. And then all the sudden a shot 2 blocks over. People scattering. Sirens everywhere.
It's a real tragedy that someone had to die that night to get the police to understand the real plague of crime.
Now this new shooting happened last weekend a few blocks over and now maybe the people over there will get sick of it too. Hopefully everyone will start to speak up and stop this before another loved one or one of us falls at the hands of crime.
curtisbay01

Suitland, MD

#20 Sep 22, 2009
the greatest power an individual has is the power of choice. if a person chooses to be associated with the wrong pepople than that person chooses the consequences. He wasn't a saint. he had a criminal record. He was hooked up with the wrong people. There is no excuse for someone to be murdered but what he was involved in he knew the risks involved.

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