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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201864 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Dan

Roseville, CA

#145717 Jun 12, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
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That's what Tony Soprano would often say, It's not a threat! It's "advice".
So you love me so much you're giving me advice on how to avoid getting beaten with a baseball bat by you? No one really believes that Dan. You repeatedly threaten me because you get frustrated and angry when you cannot effectively rebut my posts.
What does it say about you, keyboard tough guy?
Of course.

What else happens in your world?
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#145718 Jun 12, 2012
lides wrote:
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I don't know that I can help you. If you are incapable of counting beyond two, then that is your own deficiency. Ann intelligent person could understand that 3 or more is inherently greater than two, and that polygamists seek greater protection of the law for three or more persons.
Do you legitimately mean to make a case for polygamy, or are you actually dim enough to think this is a valid argument against same sex marriage?
No I have no case against same sex marriage. I see no harm in it and I support it.

I get this over and over, accusations that I am against same sex marriage. It's irrational. Why would I support polygamy but not same sex marriage? I'll answer for you- You're paranoid and you are afraid I'm pulling the slippery slope argument. That argument has little merit. Right? Right. It's easily countered. Perhaps you should do that instead of irrationally avoiding it with your "greater protection" nonsense.
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#145719 Jun 12, 2012
Dan wrote:
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As it is you failed to convince me you did so I need not answer.
I'm not trying to convince you. Just saying you are threatening to beat up an old veteran, maybe shame you a little bit, tough guy. But I guess you have no shame.

Answer my question, why didn't you serve?
Dan

Roseville, CA

#145720 Jun 12, 2012
lides wrote:
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Actually, often your posts rebut themselves since they fail to rise to the level of having a rational basis.
To him they do.

Frank's spin is that if you cannot back polygamy then you in turn cannot back gay marriage given both are outside the traditional 2 party opposite sexed traditional form of marriage. If you back one and not the other you then are hypocritical.

Given his credence on this matter amounts to a warm bowl of shit since he has no direct interest in polygamy and has yet to address those that banned it, the government, let alone he has no real interest in either - polygamy or gay marriage - from my take he's just some lonely MoFo looking for a little internet attention in my book anyway.

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#145721 Jun 12, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
No I have no case against same sex marriage. I see no harm in it and I support it.
I get this over and over, accusations that I am against same sex marriage. It's irrational. Why would I support polygamy but not same sex marriage?
Well, the two really have nothing to do with one another. One seeks equal protection of the law for two consenting adults to marry, while the other seeks greater protection for three or more.

Regardless of that fact, it has no bearing upon the topic at hand.
Frank Rizzo wrote:
I'll answer for you- You're paranoid and you are afraid I'm pulling the slippery slope argument.
Not at all. However, I may have been confused by the fact that you are making an argument that has no bearing upon the topic at hand.
Frank Rizzo wrote:
That argument has little merit. Right? Right. It's easily countered. Perhaps you should do that instead of irrationally avoiding it with your "greater protection" nonsense.
No, that is just a matter of simple counting. 3>2. What is more, it has absolutely no bearing upon the topic at hand. Thanks for clarifying that you are simply off topic.
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#145722 Jun 12, 2012
Dan wrote:
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Of course.
What else happens in your world?
You expect anyone to believe you are giving me advice on how to avoid getting beaten with a baseball bat by you in my house because you love me?

No one believes it. So what's left to believe? That it was a threat. And of course it was. You don't have any effective argument against marriage equality, you get angry and frustrated so you resort to violence. Like any common thug.
Dan

Roseville, CA

#145723 Jun 12, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
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I'm not trying to convince you. Just saying you are threatening to beat up an old veteran, maybe shame you a little bit, tough guy. But I guess you have no shame.
Answer my question, why didn't you serve?
Prove you did.

As it is I never said I did not.

This may shock the shit out of you but a lot of people in here did serve Frank. I know of a few posters you've been bantering with who did.

I don't believe a distinguished veteran would use his record in an anonymous forum as a tool like you have Frank. Sorry.
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#145724 Jun 12, 2012
Dan wrote:
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To him they do.
Frank's spin is that if you cannot back polygamy then you in turn cannot back gay marriage given both are outside the traditional 2 party opposite sexed traditional form of marriage. If you back one and not the other you then are hypocritical.
Given his credence on this matter amounts to a warm bowl of shit since he has no direct interest in polygamy and has yet to address those that banned it, the government, let alone he has no real interest in either - polygamy or gay marriage - from my take he's just some lonely MoFo looking for a little internet attention in my book anyway.
You have no direct interest in same sex marriage.

You don't have to have a vested interest in a subject to discuss it. But how would you know anything about intelligent discussion?
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#145725 Jun 12, 2012
lides wrote:
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Well, the two really have nothing to do with one another. One seeks equal protection of the law for two consenting adults to marry, while the other seeks greater protection for three or more.
Regardless of that fact, it has no bearing upon the topic at hand.
<quoted text>
Not at all. However, I may have been confused by the fact that you are making an argument that has no bearing upon the topic at hand.
<quoted text>
No, that is just a matter of simple counting. 3>2. What is more, it has absolutely no bearing upon the topic at hand. Thanks for clarifying that you are simply off topic.
Ah, so now I'm "simply off topic".
Dan

Roseville, CA

#145726 Jun 12, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
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No I have no case against same sex marriage. I see no harm in it and I support it.
I would disagree.

Had you had no issue against gay marriage you would have no purposely continued to argue polygamy needs to be tied in with it.

It's my opinion you've taken this stance no in the interest of polygamy but in he fervent wish gay marriage be identified with polygamy in a shock factor valuation so it will convince others to not back gay marriage.
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#145727 Jun 12, 2012
Dan wrote:
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Prove you did.
As it is I never said I did not.
This may shock the shit out of you but a lot of people in here did serve Frank. I know of a few posters you've been bantering with who did.
I don't believe a distinguished veteran would use his record in an anonymous forum as a tool like you have Frank. Sorry.
So you won't tell us why you didn't serve. Got it.

I'm not bragging, just stating that you are threatening an old man veteran and shame on you for doing it. And why did you do it? To get the better of me in a stupid topix thread. Pitiful. It displays your poor character very well.
Dan

Roseville, CA

#145728 Jun 12, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
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You expect anyone to believe you are giving me advice on how to avoid getting beaten with a baseball bat by you in my house because you love me?
No one believes it. So what's left to believe? That it was a threat. And of course it was. You don't have any effective argument against marriage equality, you get angry and frustrated so you resort to violence. Like any common thug.
But I don't love you Frank.

If you want to think it was a threat then do so. By all means.

Had it been an actual threat you could have taken action or the police could be involved.

I worry about that happening like I worry about being an alien spaceship though.
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#145729 Jun 12, 2012
Dan wrote:
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I would disagree.
Had you had no issue against gay marriage you would have no purposely continued to argue polygamy needs to be tied in with it.
It's my opinion you've taken this stance no in the interest of polygamy but in he fervent wish gay marriage be identified with polygamy in a shock factor valuation so it will convince others to not back gay marriage.
Your opinion is stupid, paranoid and counterproductive.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#145730 Jun 12, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
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So now you're going to lie and say you are not angry with me. Priceless.
Saying I'm not angry with you isn't a lie. Your constant lies don't warrant anger, they warrant pity and embarrasment for you. That's the sum of any emotional output about you on my end dearie.

Here's a clue though cupcake, one can be irritated and angry at the repetitious bullshyt your post without actually having any type of emotional response about you personally. You see Franky, I don't really give a rat's patoot about you personally. I'm only here to address the lies you post. If you are having some type of emotional response about any of the posters you are YUKing it up with, you might want to consider speaking to a professional about that.

Thanks for starting my day with a chuckle nitwit.
Dan

Roseville, CA

#145731 Jun 12, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
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You have no direct interest in same sex marriage.
You don't have to have a vested interest in a subject to discuss it. But how would you know anything about intelligent discussion?
Sure I do.

I feel that if we ban same sex marriage based on nothing more than disdain who's to say they couldn't move my mother from her house based on a vote given she too is a crusty old badger.

We live by one set of rules in America Frank. We allow all our citizens to hold a full set of rights, liberties and freedoms unless those said freedoms produce harm.

Gay marriage produces no harm that I have found therefore we should allow it.
Dan

Roseville, CA

#145732 Jun 12, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
So you won't tell us why you didn't serve. Got it.
I'm not bragging, just stating that you are threatening an old man veteran and shame on you for doing it. And why did you do it? To get the better of me in a stupid topix thread. Pitiful. It displays your poor character very well.
Didn't say I did not.

And you were bragging. otherwise I would not have known about your supposed three tours.

I wouldn't discuss character Frank.

And 'Frank Rizzo'???

Isn't that the name of the crank caller on "Beastie Boys"???
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#145733 Jun 12, 2012
Dan wrote:
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But I don't love you Frank.
If you want to think it was a threat then do so. By all means.
Had it been an actual threat you could have taken action or the police could be involved.
I worry about that happening like I worry about being an alien spaceship though.
I could easily notify the police of your crime or at least report your violations of Topix t.o.s. But I'm not afraid of you and know you couldn't actually carry out your threats anyway. Like I said you'd be bringing a baseball bat to a gun fight. Dumb. But that's how you are.
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#145734 Jun 12, 2012
Jonah1 wrote:
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Saying I'm not angry with you isn't a lie. Your constant lies don't warrant anger, they warrant pity and embarrasment for you. That's the sum of any emotional output about you on my end dearie.
Here's a clue though cupcake, one can be irritated and angry at the repetitious bullshyt your post without actually having any type of emotional response about you personally. You see Franky, I don't really give a rat's patoot about you personally. I'm only here to address the lies you post. If you are having some type of emotional response about any of the posters you are YUKing it up with, you might want to consider speaking to a professional about that.
Thanks for starting my day with a chuckle nitwit.
Refer me to my "lies" even one. Or stop lying.
Dan

Roseville, CA

#145735 Jun 12, 2012
Geeeezus....my writing is worse than a drunken 4 year old given a box of melted crayons to write his thoghts on a lava rock.

Sorry...I'll try to clean up the misspelled words and incomplete sentences...LOL!!!!
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#145736 Jun 12, 2012
Dan wrote:
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Sure I do.
I feel that if we ban same sex marriage based on nothing more than disdain who's to say they couldn't move my mother from her house based on a vote given she too is a crusty old badger.
We live by one set of rules in America Frank. We allow all our citizens to hold a full set of rights, liberties and freedoms unless those said freedoms produce harm.
Gay marriage produces no harm that I have found therefore we should allow it.
Me too. But I go further and include group marriage.

You see Dan, we're almost having an intelligent discussion when you leave out the thuggery and threats.

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