Teacher who was fired over testing ge...

Teacher who was fired over testing gets a new job

There are 31 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Jul 31, 2008, titled Teacher who was fired over testing gets a new job. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

Comments on Topix forums : CHEROKEE The Cullowhee Valley School teacher who was fired in May for refusing to administer end-of-grade tests to his students with severe disabilities has a new job.

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Jackson County

Cullowhee, NC

#1 Jul 31, 2008
Congrats on your new job Mr. Ward! I hope your statements will make a difference - I really think parents, teachers and the public in general demanding a repeal of No Child Left Behind is going to be critical.
Ronald Frobnitz

Maxton, NC

#2 Jul 31, 2008
I am glad Mr. Ward has this teaching opportunity. He is to be admired for standing up and speaking out on the failures of the current testing requirements.
Jackson Girl

Maxton, NC

#3 Jul 31, 2008
Jackson County's loss is the Reservation's gain. From all I hear, Doug Ward is an outstanding teacher who truly cares about his students.
local

Denver, NC

#4 Jul 31, 2008
Godd things happen when good men stand up for what is right. We need some more men with a backbone to follow his lead.
jpcs

Great Falls, MT

#5 Jul 31, 2008
Jackson Girl wrote:
Jackson County's loss is the Reservation's gain. From all I hear, Doug Ward is an outstanding teacher who truly cares about his students.
Thanks for not being afraid to buck the system! Hope all goes well in your new job. WTG!!!

“Conservative for America”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#6 Jul 31, 2008
Jackson Girl.. No rebuke, but Qualla Boundry is not a Native American federally controlled reservation.

As for Mr. Ward, I am pleased for him, especially since he has promised to follow the rules from here on out. I am aware that he is considered a great special needs teacher. My only preference would have been to have a Cherokee fill the possition, but I understand there were none available.
Colt

Raleigh, NC

#7 Jul 31, 2008
yona wrote:
Jackson Girl.. No rebuke, but Qualla Boundry is not a Native American federally controlled reservation.
As for Mr. Ward, I am pleased for him, especially since he has promised to follow the rules from here on out. I am aware that he is considered a great special needs teacher. My only preference would have been to have a Cherokee fill the possition, but I understand there were none available.
Maybe I am wrong, I have only been here 70 years, but I always thought the Cherokee Indian Reservation was inside the Qualla boundry. The reservation is on federal land, so I don't know what you are trying to convey...
95 BRAVO

Apex, NC

#8 Jul 31, 2008
Colt wrote:
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Maybe I am wrong, I have only been here 70 years, but I always thought the Cherokee Indian Reservation was inside the Qualla boundry. The reservation is on federal land, so I don't know what you are trying to convey...
COLT, YOU'RE RIGHT
jmc

Savannah, GA

#9 Jul 31, 2008
Qualla Boundary is a Bureau of Indian Affairs land trust which is in essence a reservation. Cherokee Elementary is part of the Cherokee Central Schools which is a Bureau of Indian Education school.

Traditionally, though, Qualla Boundary is called "The Reservation" by both those who live there and others from the area because it is, in essence, a reservation.
alekas

Taylorsville, NC

#10 Jul 31, 2008
good for Doug Ward. It's only a principle if you're willing to lose something by standing up for it, and Ward was willing to lose his job in order to expose the madness of "test everybody, early and often" educational policy. The bad part is, two months from now no one will remember him or the story. Wonder how many have already forgotten, particularly those in a position to right the wrong Ward's action highlighted?
bruce wayne

Hendersonville, NC

#11 Jul 31, 2008
Mr. Ward learned a lesson we all have to learn if we want to keep our job... the boss may not always be right, but the boss is the boss.

“Conservative for America”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#12 Jul 31, 2008
To correct my misguided fellow posters. Nowhere in Cherokee legal documents does the word reservation exsist. A reservation was a tract of land set aside by the federal government for the purpose of housing the Native American tribe designated to be there. It was about government control.

The Qualla Boundary was purchased by Chief William Holland Thomas. The land was placed in trust after extensive negotiations with the federal government. It was to be held for the tribe in perpetuity. That is why, though property changes hands the truth is noone ever actually owns it. It is also why noone but a Cherokee recognized as being on the rolls can 'own' land in Cherokee.

Furthermore only the lazy, Cherokee and other races call it a rez. It is simply become easier to just agree with the ignorant white man that it is a rez, then to keep correcting his smug supperior assumptions. Sort of like all those wonderful "chiefs" you see in full headdress with feathers and fringed buck skins. Ignorant tourist pay big bucks to take pictures with the "Indians". All the while they are unaware how stupid we think you are. Cherokee NEVER wore headdresses at any point in history. They never wore fringed buckskins, though they did wear beautifully sewn abd adorned buck skin britches and tunics.

Moving on, did you know, no you didn't, that Cherokee is the ONLY soverign nation to exsist inside the borders of the United States of America? Non of the other "nations" of Native American tribes can claim to be free and self determining. Real quick, Chief Thomas was the adopted son of Chief Yonaguska. Thomas was a white man and was so well loved, and loved the Cherokee so that not only, as a attorney did he buy the land and put it in trust, but he was the only white man ever to be Chief of the Cherokee.

http://www.elon.edu/community/pericles/vellan...

http://thomaslegioncherokee.tripod.com/thomas...

I have more if you wish to continue to prove ignorant of a culture on your doorstep. Which, by the way I wonder about. How can you all be so unaware of the true Cherokee when it is only an hour from you home?
anonymous

United States

#13 Jul 31, 2008
thank you Cherokee for hiring a teacher who has passion.
How sad jackson county school board could not find a way to support such a fine teacher.
jackson county school board continues to be rigid, there must have been a way to get around the situation.
Not allowing Mr. Ward back in the school to say good-bye is another example of how "right" without passion the school board behaved. cherokee is doing many fine things for it's people and hiring Mr. Ward is one of them. thanks thanks.......

Since: Oct 07

Greer, SC

#14 Jul 31, 2008
Yona, that was a good read. Thanks!
Cherokee G533

United States

#15 Jul 31, 2008
Yona we take care of us here on the REZ. Do us all us indians a favor and move back to Florida. Oh and remember to give to Heidi Gogdill wife of trooper G533 that was killed and did not get all this help that others from the Rez get. And Yona when Walmart comes and we get to sell beer in the casino. I will be getting about 16 grand a year in per cap checks thank to all thw dumb drunk whites.
Yankee Sniper

United States

#16 Jul 31, 2008
Cherokee G533 wrote:
Yona we take care of us here on the REZ. Do us all us indians a favor and move back to Florida. Oh and remember to give to Heidi Gogdill wife of trooper G533 that was killed and did not get all this help that others from the Rez get. And Yona when Walmart comes and we get to sell beer in the casino. I will be getting about 16 grand a year in per cap checks thank to all thw dumb drunk whites.
What, are you posting out of bereavement for a fallen officer?

Native Americans (mojo's) are notorious for being BOTH obese and drunks. What a burden.
Crazy Comments

United States

#17 Jul 31, 2008
Upon entering Cherokee you see a huge sign that reads as follows: Welcome to the Cherokee Indian Reservation. Maybe those living there, don't even realize that they aren't living on the Cherokee Indian Reservation - Gosh, perhaps a call to Chief Hicks is needed immediately so this sign that has been there for years and years can be corrected. The EBCI obviously uses and accepts the term reservation - it is their land and they aren't out correcting people on their use of the word.

As for Cherokee G533, doesn't Ms. Cogdill live in Virginia now??? If so, the only way she knows what is going on with the Blantons is if someone is "feeding" her information or she takes the time to go on-line and read the ACT - either way, I think you should allow her to speak for herself, unless she has asked you personally to ask for money on her behalf?
Crazy Comments

United States

#18 Jul 31, 2008
Yankee Sniper wrote:
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Native Americans (mojo's) are notorious for being BOTH obese and drunks. What a burden.
You have zero right. That's whats wrong with America, always being stero-typical. Sad.

“Conservative for America”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#19 Jul 31, 2008
Crazy Comments wrote:
Upon entering Cherokee you see a huge sign that reads as follows: Welcome to the Cherokee Indian Reservation. Maybe those living there, don't even realize that they aren't living on the Cherokee Indian Reservation - Gosh, perhaps a call to Chief Hicks is needed immediately so this sign that has been there for years and years can be corrected. The EBCI obviously uses and accepts the term reservation - it is their land and they aren't out correcting people on their use of the word.
As for Cherokee G533, doesn't Ms. Cogdill live in Virginia now??? If so, the only way she knows what is going on with the Blantons is if someone is "feeding" her information or she takes the time to go on-line and read the ACT - either way, I think you should allow her to speak for herself, unless she has asked you personally to ask for money on her behalf?
Yeah Crazy my wife and I as well as others have been complaining about the sign for years. Michelle keeps sidestepping the issue and saying other more important matters requier money and time.

Our opinion about the sign is that, like the "chiefs" in Cherokee it was simply easier to dumb it down for the tourist, then to expect them to understand the difference between boundary and reservation.

You were polite, so I was polite. Did my explanation help?

“Conservative for America”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#20 Jul 31, 2008
Cherokee G533 wrote:
Yona we take care of us here on the REZ. Do us all us indians a favor and move back to Florida. Oh and remember to give to Heidi Gogdill wife of trooper G533 that was killed and did not get all this help that others from the Rez get. And Yona when Walmart comes and we get to sell beer in the casino. I will be getting about 16 grand a year in per cap checks thank to all thw dumb drunk whites.
You are obviously one of those ignorant public housing per cap to per cap Indians.

My wife's family has been here as long as FOR ABSOLUTELY SURE as yours and maybe longer. As for my family, well I can trace my roots on my mothers side back to the mid 1700s in this area. That is before Buncombe county or Asheville. The fact that my father was attending FSU when I was born, and I just happened to be down there makes no difference. I included it because I believe in being honest and honestly I am not a born WN Carolinian. Funny story we had a house up here and I was up here days after my birth. So shove that BS move back to florida stuff.

Wal-Mart on the boundary, well I supported it as long as it he Native preference hiring, and it does. Beer and wine sales my wife and I are mixed on. We know from history that alchohol has a negative effect on many Cherokee we know and care for. I have a nephew in the hospial right now whos not expected to live because his liver is giving up. Don't you make a snide remark, or we will all know you are no Cherokee.

We feel that with passable ever widening roads and better cars that beer and wine is prett much easy to come by now. That sort of ruins the keep it away to protect the Cherokee argument.

That leaves the up side. Beer and wine sales will be a boom to the economy and not just because the Cherokee will be buying, but all the tourist, which by the way leads to increased city revenue by DWI ticketing of tourist.

Finally the casino would see a significant rise in revenue based on studies done in casinos that served alchohol compaired to those that don't. Yes assuming Michelle or the next Chief can't figure yet another way to divert tribal money, the per cap should be much bigger. I, of course, am just excited for the trust fund growing for my daughter. She will have something significant to start her life out on, unless she does what so many Cherokee are doing right now. Getting the money and buying cars, booze, drugs, and having a good time for about a year, and then right back to being broke with nothing to show for it. Some parents are working hard to prepare their children, and others are going to let them crash and burn.

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