Who cares

Yancey, TX

#296 May 18, 2009
Dude your making it seem like the cops released them, it doesn't work that way, it's the judges decision to either give them a bond or not.
ugh wrote:
i cant believe they let them go!!! the ones that were in custody are out. for sure as hell something is gonna happen...maybe there is gonna be another shoot out!! stupid cops dont know what they are doing!!
Who cares

Yancey, TX

#297 May 18, 2009
Sorry for your lose as well as the other family, but first of all if complaints were being reported to the PD and no reports were being documented. Then why wasn't your brother a bit smarter to report the PD to the Texas Rangers. I guarantee you something would have been done. The Carrizo PD was report to Texas Rangers a few years ago and they got their sh*t together. Second of all, if your family were the ones getting arrested as they were trying to make a report, then that goes with their reputation around the town.
ramirez wrote:
<quoted text>i AM LUPE RAMIREZ'S SISTER AND HE HAS BEEN TELLING MY PARENTS FOR MONTHS ABOUT SEVERAL ATTACKS ON BOTH LARRY AND RYAN BY THE MONCADAS. hE MADE SEVERAL ATTEMPTSTO FILE REPORTS AND CHARGES ONLY TO HAVE THE LOCAL POLICE TURN IT AROUND ON HIM AND ARREST HIM!!! hOW BACKWARDS IS THAT!!! yOU ARE UNDER ATTACK IN YOUR OWN HOUSE AND NO POLICE WILL GO TO YOUR AID BECAUSE THEY ARE IN SOME WAY TIED TO THOSE ATTACKING YOU....YEA I WILL POINT FINGERS ...AT THE POLICE!!! tHEY KNEW ABOUT ALL THE INCIDENTS AND DID NOTHING!!! eVEN THOUGH I DON'T KNOW THE MONCADA...NO ONE DESERVES TO HAVE THEIR LIFE TAKEN
MY PRAYERS GO OUT TO THE SURVIVING MONCADAS....I KNOW THEIR PAIN. i HOPE THEY GET RID OF THEIR FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPONS....CRYSTAL CITY REFUGIO STREET IS NOT A WAR ZONE!!! i REMEBER BEING ABLE TO VISIT GRANDMA MINGA AND GRANDPA LAZARO WITHOUT FEAR OF BEING SHOT BY OUR NEIGHBORS. i REMEBER WALKING TO THE BENAVIDES STORE WITHOUT FEARING FOR OUR LIVES...WHERE DID THINGS CHANGE...WHERE DID IT ALL GO WRONG NEIGHBORS???
Who cares

Yancey, TX

#298 May 18, 2009
Actually it's the judge's decision to keep the stupids behind bars not the jailers. The jailers duty is to supervise the idiots arrested.
Bias wrote:
Stupid people shoot one another. Nobody to blame but them.
The Police officer job is to make a record of it, and arrest the stupid one still standing. Then
Call Medical Examiner for the stupid one who got killed. Its the DA job to prosecute. Its the Jailers job to make sure stupid stays behind bars.
Its up to everyone else to see how stupid this is.
Genius

Yancey, TX

#299 May 18, 2009
I don't think so!! Besides you don't live in Crystal, how do you know the play by play as far as who shot who, who initiated the first shot, or how it even happend? Who are your sources, do you work for the a news channel or maybe made an appearance on CIS or Law and Order and solved the incident within an hour like the shows.
ramirez wrote:
<quoted text>
yOU ARE MISINFORMED!!!
Taxpayer

San Antonio, TX

#300 May 18, 2009
So who was this judge that set bond it is usually hard to find a judge during the weekend. I guess you can tell where the favortism is in this town.
Genius

Yancey, TX

#301 May 18, 2009
Permit or not, caring an AK 47 is illegal.
kvthree wrote:
AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COMMUNITY I AGREE WITH YOU. WHY DID THIS FAMILY HAVE HIGH POWERED FIREARMS? DID THEY HAVE PERMITS TO POSSES SUCH WEAPONS AND HOW MANY MORE OF THESE WEAPONS ARE IN THE HANDS OF INDIVIDUALS WHO THINK THAT VIOLENCE IS THE SOLUTION TO ALL PROBLEMS? CITY OFFICIALS, COUNTY OFFICIALS NEED TO MOBILIZE BEFORE MORE VIOLENCE OCCURS ON THE STREETS OF THIS TOWN. THESE FAMILIES ARE NOT THE TYPE TO LET IT GO. AND YES TODAY I DID FEEL UNEASY GOING TO HEB. LIVE AS WE KNEW IT HAS CHANGED.
rarA

Crystal City, TX

#302 May 18, 2009
every one jusss know that everyone that died is in a good
Just Saying

Corpus Christi, TX

#303 May 18, 2009
Maybe the reason that the Ramirez got out of jail had to do with that Bi**h D. Palacios. She's the one that is always getting them out of trouble.
Washington State

Moses Lake, WA

#304 May 18, 2009
My heart goes out to all the families involved... and to the community of Crystal City. I have family there, and we go visit at least once a year, the people whom live there have always been very friendly to us. So please Crystal City, come together and let us all pray for everyone involved in this terrible tragedy. May god bless the families whom have lost loved ones and the whole community..
my name dont matter

San Antonio, TX

#305 May 18, 2009
ramirez wrote:
<quoted text>Once again thank you for providing me with the ammo i need to get you and others like you fired from the CCPD and in jail!!! No one's hiding dumbass....we're just bringing reinforcements that aren't corrupt!!!
whoever this is wether you are really ccpd or not FBI is involved so your the dumbass posting stuff like this because they can track you down and believe me they do investigate stuff on the internet or have you not herd there are "cyber crime units"
stupid

Barnesville, OH

#306 May 18, 2009
lolwut wrote:
Damn, and there's no respawn either
why dont u act ur age! u are grown and u want 2 act like ur funny, and all u r doing is making yourself look stupid and u r really pissing people off that u r going to get a cap in your ass!! so shut da @uck up!!
my name dont matter

San Antonio, TX

#307 May 18, 2009
ramirez wrote:
<quoted text>Once again thank you for providing me with the ammo i need to get you and others like you fired from the CCPD and in jail!!! No one's hiding dumbass....we're just bringing reinforcements that aren't corrupt!!!
sorry was replying to the same posting you replied to
Just me

Lufkin, TX

#308 May 18, 2009
This is information for anyone that has a complaint on any officer in crystal...any and all information called in can put a stop on this keystone cops!!!
Internal Affairs (Austin, Texas)
Office of Police Monitor
1520 Rutherford Lane
Austin, Texas 87854

You can call, write-in or just go to the office
please, this is only serious calls...
If you have a complaint please feel free to call this office...or
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/police/ia.htm
un friend

United States

#309 May 18, 2009
oye next time get the story straight john john never made it to SA so dont lie ok
Dirty wrote:
sorry...it was ryan and the mom martina that passed away and john john moncada is in critical condition in SA. our prayers go out to him and his family.
un friend

United States

#310 May 18, 2009
nooooo gente he died he was shot inthe face
crystal city wrote:
<quoted text>
so jhon jhon is still alive
citizien

United States

#311 May 18, 2009
it must not be easy but the cops r there to protect & to serve ke paso this took place infront of an officer what is that my Lord whats gonna happened to us here in crystal
Who cares wrote:
I'd like to see you carry a badge and a gun trying to stop two families from shooting each other's brains out, like it's that easy to stand in the middle of the street and tell them, "Please don't shoot".
<quoted text>
citizien

United States

#312 May 18, 2009
so true very true
TOO OLD AND TIRED wrote:
<quoted text>
I feel that everyone that has contributed to this "topix" forum, should instead of posting all this information here, should go to the Texas Rangers or the CSI that was at the sight and contribute all this information. Unless they have citizens speak out and give them recorded verbal or written statements, our local authorities will never come to our aid. We also have to remember that because we do not speak up and continue to vote for the current elected officials, out city does not change. The younger generation, which does not include me, needs to take charge of the elected office and insure that our city and county government is update and current to the citizens needs in this day and age. Not to mention we need city and county officers that care about the community, regardless of the citizens financial, educational and chosen way of life.
some one who knows

United States

#313 May 18, 2009
yup lazaro started the fight w the moncada son then cop came and jon jon nothing was gona be done so jon jon se calento a lupe then the rumble started the some1 from the ramirez shot and well u know the rest jon jon was saving his lil bros life by draging him to his house when there he got shot lets just stop all the crazy talking and pray for both families they both los some1 and pray this nightmare stops already
aaa wrote:
This it what I was Told but someone that was there. Lazaro and his friend started it. Jonathan and Jacob were in the back yard cooking fajitas when Lazaro and his friend pulled up into their yard and stared saying stuff. John John was shot in the head. They say that Javier, the brother, is the one that shot both Jacob and John John but that is a lie. People that were there at the time of the crime say that Ryan, the 15 year old boy that also passed, fired the first bullet, after John John ran to Lupio to fight him (with his FIST not a GUN) hitting Jacob in the stomach and another one at Javier hitting his arm, that is when Javier pulled out his gun and started to shoot. I do not know much but they also told me that Lupio was recording the argument up until John John and Javier ran up to fight him. HOPEFULLY THE COPS HAVE THAT EVIDENCE. Also before John John got up to go at Lupio he asked Mingo "mingo are you going to do anything about it?" to which he replied "i have to hear both sides of the story." That is what I know so far and I believe it because I use to be a friend on the Ramirez family and they are nothing but backstabbing A-Hole that talk alot of sh*t, everytime a fight happend between the two families once the cops showed up the Ramirez family would run inside the house as soon as the cops found out that Lupio had warrents for his arrest. Yes, the cops do know the brother on the Moncada side but the Cops always talked about the situation with the Moncadas and what they as a family needed to do. I talk to the Moncada family now and yes they have their temper but this fued started when Lazaro and Joe wanted to fight Geffory and Jacob way back in jr high, over a GIRL!!! That is all i have to say but to the families just pray for the souls that passed on...
Rest In Peace
Juan Ramon Moncada Jr.
Genius

Yancey, TX

#314 May 18, 2009
To serve and protect indeed, but when your stuck between cross fire what do you do? You take cover and call for backup. If the cop was there to break up the fight before the first shot was fired the cop on sight should have know who shot first.
citizien wrote:
it must not be easy but the cops r there to protect & to serve ke paso this took place infront of an officer what is that my Lord whats gonna happened to us here in crystal<quoted text>
some one who knows

United States

#315 May 18, 2009
I can't belive you would lie like that that is very sick but like you said truth will come out you are disturbing
ramirez wrote:
<quoted text>
Just for your own info jacob was shot by his own brother ballistics tests will prove that one cause it will match the bullet that struck lupe. john john tried to shoot lupe in the head but the gun got jammed, he tried to "fix it " and the gun unloaded on his own brother...he then proceeded to shoot lupe.

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