Is gang of young teetotalers responsi...

Is gang of young teetotalers responsible for recent beatings in Richmond? - wtvr

There are 130 comments on the WTVR story from Nov 10, 2009, titled Is gang of young teetotalers responsible for recent beatings in Richmond? - wtvr. In it, WTVR reports that:

Could a group of young men angry at teenage drug and alcohol abuse be responsible for at least two gang beatings in Richmond this month? Richmond investigators are trying to determine if the "straightedge" World War Crew has resurfaced in the Richmond area.

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Teh Internet

High Point, NC

#42 Nov 11, 2009
Are you folks so dense that you can't tell the difference between a troll and srs business? I can't believe it... yet the proof is right in front of me. EPIC FAIL
Ian McKaye

Decatur, GA

#43 Nov 11, 2009
The guy way above is right. Hate-o-four was the origonal, all the rest are copy cats. Stop trying to act hard, the days of Twisters are over. The militant preaching of old hardcore bands are over. These kids are struggling for an identity, no need to think you are better than everyone else and go out causing trouble. I'm waiting to read the next story of when one of these kids messes with the wrong guy and gets shot. Where are the parents?
Confused

Richmond, VA

#44 Nov 11, 2009
This upsets me a great deal. I was once (for 7 years) a part of the STRAIGHT EDGE movement. I was exposed at a young age to drugs and achole, and stayed away from it to make me a better person. I got into bands like Avail , For Walls Falling ec.. all odd Richmond bands that had edge members or catered to the some music venues and crowds. I also was into the posative messages of bands like Minor Threat and Gorlilla Biskets, which put a positive and non-violent spin on the life style.
These kids are nothing but the product of years and years of opiouns and advancements to the extremes side of living a clean sober life style. What was once about having friends and a good time sober turned into fighting people that were different and that liked to have a drink, take a smoke, eat a burger? Bands did spread a message of what was being called “hard-line” idealism that anyone that did not live the way you did (a clean sober life style) they were to be punished for fucking up society. That is kind of the same thing as being a religious extremist. Look at closely. These kids are a rotten example of the STRAIGHT EDGE MOVEMENT. I myself will openly admit that I no longer SXE and I don’t care what these kid bring at me. I laugh at them. Nothing but dime store hoods and Bullies. They would fall weak at the knees at a really street gang. Drop their white butts in the real “hood” and see how long they can hold up. Sucker punches and ganging up on the drunken kid is different than ducking drive bys and getting curbed. This makes me sad that no positivism still lives in a good idea for a lifestyle that can me helpful to you and to others.
iknowsomethingyo udont

Stephens City, VA

#45 Nov 11, 2009
Seriously everyone.

if you are just a regular person it probably looks like were fighting, open your eyes and see we are just moshing.
joe blow

Richmond, VA

#46 Nov 11, 2009
the internet: every idiot who doesn't know anything with a megaphone.

for those of you who don't know anyone involved, you're retarded, for those of you who think you know what happened, 90% of you don't. whatever happened to minding your own business
its good in tha hood

Mechanicsville, VA

#47 Nov 11, 2009
HATE O FOUR was never a straight edge crew.
big willy style

San Diego, CA

#48 Nov 11, 2009
yo wut time does the h8breed show start?! omfg lawlz u wont mosh
most
wayne

Atlanta, GA

#49 Nov 11, 2009
another off-shoot of horror-core fans. this is simply a form of "demonic" influence over our YOUTH. they must be on drugs or whatever to incite and promote premeditated violence.
Many variables

Petersburg, VA

#50 Nov 11, 2009
So I think I got hit in the face by one of these guys on Franklin St a couple weeks ago. I'm just glad to know why I got hit finally. Alcohol!...I had a recently purchased 22oz Blue Moon in my hand which is probably why I received this surprising non-verbal, passing-on-the-sidewalk sucker punch from a young black male. Without any premise for the attack, I had to immediately throw my beer at them (which shattered in the street..and probably satisfied their desires) and RUN for fear of a gun ending my experience on this planet. Not worth it.

Otherwise I would of loved to speak to them and understand where they were coming from. I see value in some radical actions, especially with the current times we live in and the rather dysfunctional state of our society and peoples.

But the way they moved on me that night was very weak, and no message was relayed to me...only a sad sense of hate and fear passed from them to me. I quickly released their emotional toxins and later replaced them with good 'ol fermented toxins from our local brewery! lol...I think drinking some can be healthy and fun too!

I'm sure you WWC boys are watching this thread, so I hope you can come up with a better way to spread your message.(I'm not even saying a wake up call to the face is a bad thing...mashing teeth out may be a little much)...Many substances are harming our bodies already, and we shouldn't put more into our systems! Agreed! It is a simple lack of respect for life stemming from a society that lacks respect for each other, ourselves, and the human family/village life we are designed to be living. Sad to say we are far from this now (especially in America),

Although repair IS underway through the relocalization of our food system. Love will flow strong again.
RTL

Amherst, MA

#51 Nov 11, 2009
STRAIGHT EDGE IS TWO WORDS YES FACT CHECKING YES
yall are jokes

Colonial Heights, VA

#52 Nov 11, 2009
i love how this network has no idea what they are talking about. how can a news channel write a article with zero facts. anyone can go onto craiglist and post and say that thye are in wwc so how can yall think it really someone in wwc. great to know that our local news has no credibility when they are talking about what is happening in there area.
Karl Crisis

Maidens, VA

#54 Nov 11, 2009
Street by street. Block by block. Taking it all back.
The youth immersed in poison - turn the tide counterattack.
Violence against violence, let the roundups begin.
A firestorm to purify the bane that society drowns in. No mercy, no
exceptions, a declaration of total war.
The innocent's defense is the reason it's waged for.
Born addicted, beaten and
neglected. Families torn apart, detroyed and abandoned.
Children sell their bodies, from their high they fall to drown.
Demons crazed by greed cut bystanders down.
A chemically tainted welfare generation.
Abslolute complete moral degeneration.
Born addicted, beaten and neglected. Families torn apart,
detroyed and abandoned. Children sell their bodies, from their high
they fall to drown. Demons crazed by greed. Cut bystanders down.
Corrupt politicans, corrupt enforcement, drug lords and
dealers, all must fall. The helpless are crying out.
We have risen to their call. A firestorm to purify.
Excited for the end

Richmond, VA

#55 Nov 11, 2009
Hanging out is what we do best
at the frick the lofts or the tex
movie night nintendo night 4th street every single night
the best times of my life
wake up early and chill at shafer court
holla at smokes and joke on the bike dorks
undacova brotha vcu cops on our tails
they don't know we're unstoppable
richmond- fist city
va-i'll never leave
guerilla crew- fuck you
richmond-always on top
swinging off ropes
flying out trees
jumping off bridges
pony pasture cuts our knees
chased by bums and ghosts on bridges
pony pasture cuts our knees
chased by bums and ghosts on belle isle
just a day in the life on the james
west grace street
never know who you'll see
late night
frat fights front porch cary street
richmond belongs to me
the best place ill ever be
Richmond- fist city
V.A- ill never leave
guerilla crew-fuck you
richmond-non stop
Richmond XXX

Richmond, VA

#56 Nov 11, 2009
1. No one in WWC is Christian. That's a stupid misconception.

2. Craigslist is not a valid news source considering anyone can post on it anonymously and claim to be anyone else. The specific post you cited not only was obviously a joke, it wasn't posted by someone in WWC.

3. Most of the people in WWC actually grew up in the city and went to public schools and are in no way middle class. White doesn't always mean rich.

4. The majority of fights involving WWC members has nothing to do with the fact that WWC guys are Straight Edge, as evidenced by Sawyer who is neither Straight Edge nor a member of WWC. Fights are just fights because young men are full of energy and hormones and eager to look cool and tough.

5. The only reason that anyone gives a shit about this story is because the police and media give priority attention to white victims. If black kids were getting beaten up, no one would care. It's only because WWC gets into fights with rich VCU kids that this is even a story.
sucks for them

Richmond, VA

#57 Nov 11, 2009
poor sawyer but who gives two shits about drew.
Richmond VA

Richmond, VA

#58 Nov 11, 2009
sucks for them wrote:
poor sawyer but who gives two shits about drew.
I do.
KING RTL

Richmond, VA

#59 Nov 11, 2009
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Betta Dayz

Petersburg, VA

#60 Nov 11, 2009


? ha ya'll have fun but no more violence please! speak loud and cause chaos, stir this country up to take action. many sleepers need it... but no blood on your own species! also come up with something positive for people to turn to, rather than depending/blamin on someone else to fix the situation and just hatin! what is that gonna do? And don't just think white people are rich and fortunate...we all strugglin in this lifestyle! youth fix it block by block, street by street. i'd recommend planting food. how bout some guerilla gardenin gangs? wise up
polish yeti

Richmond, VA

#61 Nov 11, 2009
lol wut?
Betta Dayz

Petersburg, VA

#62 Nov 11, 2009
trying to steer convo away from time-wasting hate bullshit.. maybe find a resolution. hahaha. ha. ha. haha. no really.

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