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A Page County man is dead after driving his car into the path of an Amtrak train heading from Charlottesville to Washington. Full Story
BBJ

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Nov 17, 2012
What is it about train crossing; stop and look both ways. That said sorry for him and sorry for the engineer.
Horsewagled

Washington, MO

#2 Nov 17, 2012
Things a REAL railroad Operation Lifesaver (OL) group would ask!!!
1. Why are all OL directors handpuppets of the railroad or government only giving lip service safety messages?
2. Why nothing is ever mentioned by OL that would cost the railroads a penny on the obviously missing safety equipment and track maintenance work?
3. Where are the crossing safety signals for the trains going too fast with no brakes or steering at 1,000s of crossings?
4. Where are the track video monitors for the trains going too fast with no brakes or steering to get the train stopped IN TIME?
5. Why aren't railroads paying at least half for crossing signals because it's their trains going too fast with no brakes or steering while paying the so-called RR directors millions a year.
6. Why the crossing humps trapping big trucks aren't required to be removed?
7. Why the crossing surfaces aren't wider where if a vehicle fish tails on slick road and is trapped at the edge of the crossing surface trap?
8. Why the train cabs aren't required to be lit up like a Christmas tree with emergency vehicle light bars? LOOK AND SEE!!
9. Why the front of trains aren't required to have air bags or something to soften impacts?
10. Why trains don't have better braking systems? OLIs message now shows train brakes obviously suck.
11. Why there are no bidding invitations on the obviously overcharged crossing projects the tax-payers pay the railroads for.$10,000 just to get the equipment to the sight. TRUCKED IN.
12. Why trains are allowed to run in the fog?
13. Why the crossings aren't lit up so drivers can see the black rail cars across the tracks at night?
14. Why railroads remove and steal signals we paid for on closed re-worked crossings?
15. Why $$$millions$$$ of the rail safety budget we pay in is wasted on needless reworks at crossings preventing signals where needed?
16. Why the railroad isn't required to de-ice crossings before they roll the trains?
17. Why the railroad isn't required to raise their overpasses so big trucks can get under them? The railroad wants to double stack and our road overpasses are too low---no problem WE PAY MILLIONS.
18. Why drug/alcohol tests aren't done on rail crews at crossing/pedestrian collisions?
19. Why railroads are allowed to get off with the train black box , signal black box (if crossing signals are present), and cab video at crossing/pedestrian collisions?
20. Why the fact is hidden that trains kill a few thousand people in 100 million train miles when regular drivers have like ONE death?
21.Why Amtrak passengers aren't required to look at the despicable shape of the crossings before they board the trains?
22.Why train horns aren't blown at private crossings till the last second freezing drivers?
23.Why the railroads track lights can't be at a crossing?
24 .Why railroads need track lights and civilians don't?
WAITING FOR OLI/OLI.CA response.
CvilleGordo

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Nov 18, 2012
Horsewagled wrote:
Things a REAL railroad Operation Lifesaver (OL) group would ask!!!
1. Why are all OL directors handpuppets of the railroad or government only giving lip service safety messages?
2. Why nothing is ever mentioned by OL that would cost the railroads a penny on the obviously missing safety equipment and track maintenance work?
3. Where are the crossing safety signals for the trains going too fast with no brakes or steering at 1,000s of crossings?
4. Where are the track video monitors for the trains going too fast with no brakes or steering to get the train stopped IN TIME?
5. Why aren't railroads paying at least half for crossing signals because it's their trains going too fast with no brakes or steering while paying the so-called RR directors millions a year.
6. Why the crossing humps trapping big trucks aren't required to be removed?
7. Why the crossing surfaces aren't wider where if a vehicle fish tails on slick road and is trapped at the edge of the crossing surface trap?
8. Why the train cabs aren't required to be lit up like a Christmas tree with emergency vehicle light bars? LOOK AND SEE!!
9. Why the front of trains aren't required to have air bags or something to soften impacts?
10. Why trains don't have better braking systems? OLIs message now shows train brakes obviously ****.
11. Why there are no bidding invitations on the obviously overcharged crossing projects the tax-payers pay the railroads for.$10,000 just to get the equipment to the sight. TRUCKED IN.
12. Why trains are allowed to run in the fog?
13. Why the crossings aren't lit up so drivers can see the black rail cars across the tracks at night?
14. Why railroads remove and steal signals we paid for on closed re-worked crossings?
15. Why $$$millions$$$ of the rail safety budget we pay in is wasted on needless reworks at crossings preventing signals where needed?
16. Why the railroad isn't required to de-ice crossings before they roll the trains?
17. Why the railroad isn't required to raise their overpasses so big trucks can get under them? The railroad wants to double stack and our road overpasses are too low---no problem WE PAY MILLIONS.
18. Why drug/alcohol tests aren't done on rail crews at crossing/pedestrian collisions?
19. Why railroads are allowed to get off with the train black box , signal black box (if crossing signals are present), and cab video at crossing/pedestrian collisions?
20. Why the fact is hidden that trains kill a few thousand people in 100 million train miles when regular drivers have like ONE death?
21.Why Amtrak passengers aren't required to look at the despicable shape of the crossings before they board the trains?
22.Why train horns aren't blown at private crossings till the last second freezing drivers?
23.Why the railroads track lights can't be at a crossing?
24 .Why railroads need track lights and civilians don't?
WAITING FOR OLI/OLI.CA response.
Whew, I'm exhausted after reading your talking points there. But it's good to have a cause. Are you an Occutard too? That would be awesome. You and your pals could Occutard RR crossings.
shw

Charlottesville, VA

#4 Nov 18, 2012
there must be some explanation why mr wood did not stop for train,ya think.
Liberalace

Charlottesville, VA

#5 Nov 18, 2012
Horsewagled wrote:
Things a REAL railroad Operation Lifesaver (OL) group would ask!!!
1. Why are all OL directors handpuppets of the railroad or government only giving lip service safety messages?
2. Why nothing is ever mentioned by OL that would cost the railroads a penny on the obviously missing safety equipment and track maintenance work?
3. Where are the crossing safety signals for the trains going too fast with no brakes or steering at 1,000s of crossings?
4. Where are the track video monitors for the trains going too fast with no brakes or steering to get the train stopped IN TIME?
5. Why aren't railroads paying at least half for crossing signals because it's their trains going too fast with no brakes or steering while paying the so-called RR directors millions a year.
6. Why the crossing humps trapping big trucks aren't required to be removed?
7. Why the crossing surfaces aren't wider where if a vehicle fish tails on slick road and is trapped at the edge of the crossing surface trap?
8. Why the train cabs aren't required to be lit up like a Christmas tree with emergency vehicle light bars? LOOK AND SEE!!
9. Why the front of trains aren't required to have air bags or something to soften impacts?
10. Why trains don't have better braking systems? OLIs message now shows train brakes obviously ****.
11. Why there are no bidding invitations on the obviously overcharged crossing projects the tax-payers pay the railroads for.$10,000 just to get the equipment to the sight. TRUCKED IN.
12. Why trains are allowed to run in the fog?
13. Why the crossings aren't lit up so drivers can see the black rail cars across the tracks at night?
14. Why railroads remove and steal signals we paid for on closed re-worked crossings?
15. Why $$$millions$$$ of the rail safety budget we pay in is wasted on needless reworks at crossings preventing signals where needed?
16. Why the railroad isn't required to de-ice crossings before they roll the trains?
17. Why the railroad isn't required to raise their overpasses so big trucks can get under them? The railroad wants to double stack and our road overpasses are too low---no problem WE PAY MILLIONS.
18. Why drug/alcohol tests aren't done on rail crews at crossing/pedestrian collisions?
19. Why railroads are allowed to get off with the train black box , signal black box (if crossing signals are present), and cab video at crossing/pedestrian collisions?
20. Why the fact is hidden that trains kill a few thousand people in 100 million train miles when regular drivers have like ONE death?
21.Why Amtrak passengers aren't required to look at the despicable shape of the crossings before they board the trains?
22.Why train horns aren't blown at private crossings till the last second freezing drivers?
23.Why the railroads track lights can't be at a crossing?
24 .Why railroads need track lights and civilians don't?
WAITING FOR OLI/OLI.CA response.
Man, you just ejaculated a mouthful!

R.I.P.: Morris Horowitz
Dough Nate

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Nov 18, 2012
Horeswagled has accused the train of having no steering.

Even though it has no steering wheel, it was right on track going where it was supposed to.

What a fool, does Horse not understange the concept of a wheel flange?
Nancy

Harrisonburg, VA

#7 Nov 18, 2012
This man was a good friend of ours. I don't know why a track that has an amtrack train doesn't have crossing lights at every crossing the trains go very fast and the need something at every crossing to prevent this from happing again.
Nancy

Harrisonburg, VA

#8 Nov 18, 2012
I forgot to mention that Mr Wood travled this road for 9 years he knew where the tracks were and he was a very safe driver. He has driven a dump truck all his life and always stopped at all yellow caution lights and all stop signs even when he was driving his personal car. We don't know what happen only God does. But I do think the railroad needs flashing lights at least on the tracks that cary these amtrack trains.
Horsewagled

Washington, MO

#10 Nov 18, 2012
Things a REAL railroad Operation Lifesaver (OL) group would ask!!!
1. Why are all OL directors handpuppets of the railroad or government only giving lip service safety messages?
2. Why nothing is ever mentioned by OL that would cost the railroads a penny on the obviously missing safety equipment and track maintenance work?
3. Where are the crossing safety signals for the trains going too fast with no brakes or steering at 1,000s of crossings?
4. Where are the track video monitors for the trains going too fast with no brakes or steering to get the train stopped IN TIME?
5. Why aren't railroads paying at least half for crossing signals because it's their trains going too fast with no brakes or steering while paying the so-called RR directors millions a year.
6. Why the crossing humps trapping big trucks aren't required to be removed?
7. Why the crossing surfaces aren't wider where if a vehicle fish tails on slick road and is trapped at the edge of the crossing surface trap?
8. Why the train cabs aren't required to be lit up like a Christmas tree with emergency vehicle light bars? LOOK AND SEE!!
9. Why the front of trains aren't required to have air bags or something to soften impacts?
10. Why trains don't have better braking systems? OLIs message now shows train brakes obviously suck.
11. Why there are no bidding invitations on the obviously overcharged crossing projects the tax-payers pay the railroads for.$10,000 just to get the equipment to the sight. TRUCKED IN.
12. Why trains are allowed to run in the fog?
13. Why the crossings aren't lit up so drivers can see the black rail cars across the tracks at night?
14. Why railroads remove and steal signals we paid for on closed re-worked crossings?
15. Why $$$millions$$$ of the rail safety budget we pay in is wasted on needless reworks at crossings preventing signals where needed?
16. Why the railroad isn't required to de-ice crossings before they roll the trains?
17. Why the railroad isn't required to raise their overpasses so big trucks can get under them? The railroad wants to double stack and our road overpasses are too low---no problem WE PAY MILLIONS.
18. Why drug/alcohol tests aren't done on rail crews at crossing/pedestrian collisions?
19. Why railroads are allowed to get off with the train black box , signal black box (if crossing signals are present), and cab video at crossing/pedestrian collisions?
20. Why the fact is hidden that trains kill a few thousand people in 100 million train miles when regular drivers have like ONE death?
21.Why Amtrak passengers aren't required to look at the despicable shape of the crossings before they board the trains?
22.Why train horns aren't blown at private crossings till the last second freezing drivers?
23.Why the railroads track lights can't be at a crossing?
24 .Why railroads need track lights and civilians don't?
WAITING FOR OLI/OLI.CA response.
Horsewagled

Washington, MO

#11 Nov 18, 2012
Nancy wrote:
This man was a good friend of ours. I don't know why a track that has an amtrack train doesn't have crossing lights at every crossing the trains go very fast and the need something at every crossing to prevent this from happing again.
The government/state are dirty ---This crossing is listed as private so it doesn't qualify for signal funding. The railroads who steal our signals off closed/reworked crossing could move them to places like this.

Trains don't even blow horns here except maybe at the last second freezing the driver like a deer in headlights.

http://www.nrc.uscg.mil/reports/rwservlet...
714652T
Native

Charlottesville, VA

#12 Nov 18, 2012
Horsewagled wrote:
<quoted text>
The government/state are dirty ---This crossing is listed as private so it doesn't qualify for signal funding. The railroads who steal our signals off closed/reworked crossing could move them to places like this.
Trains don't even blow horns here except maybe at the last second freezing the driver like a deer in headlights.
http://www.nrc.uscg.mil/reports/rwservlet...
714652T
It sounds like the driver ignored the stop sign at the crossing.

Grade Crossing: YES
Railroad Milepost: 51.5
Crossing Device Type: STOP SIGN
Device Operational: UNKNOWN
DOTCrossing Number: 714652T
Date and Time Service was/will be Restored:
Brake Failure: UNKNOWN


















Eaglescout1984

Charlottesville, VA

#13 Nov 19, 2012
I could spend all day debunking your mindless rant,(especially the part about the trains that don't have steering), but I will just play with one of your points:
Horsewagled wrote:
13. Why the crossings aren't lit up so drivers can see the black rail cars across the tracks at night?
At most public road crossing, flashing lights exist and will continue to flash until the train has completely cleared the crossing. Furthermore, at crossings without flashing lights, most drivers will use something to assist their driving at night: headlights. Headlights will illuminate obstacles ahead of them, which include freight trains. And as far a CSX in concerned, their cars do have strips of reflective tape so headlights reflect better off of them. Anyone who approaches an uncontrolled train crossing at night with such speed they cannot see the cars until it is too late, wouldn't be saved by a street light.

I pray for Mr. Wood's family. It only takes a second for even the best drivers to loose focus and it sounds like this may be the case based on Nancy's post.
Dough Nate

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Nov 19, 2012
Let the investigation run its course. Maybe the brakes failed in the car? Stalled on crossing? Medical...maybe Mr. Wood had a medical event and the collision was secondary. Other cars present or other sources of blinding light? Lots of things could lead to an accident.

Private crossings are a thing of the past that date back to when railroad easement tore properties apart. You would be very hard pressed or very well connected to get any new private crossings even on slow tracks. This is a major mainline; private crossings are being eliminated to prevent these wrecks.
thinking free

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Nov 19, 2012
Dough Nate wrote:
Let the investigation run its course. Maybe the brakes failed in the car? Stalled on crossing? Medical...maybe Mr. Wood had a medical event and the collision was secondary. Other cars present or other sources of blinding light? Lots of things could lead to an accident.
Private crossings are a thing of the past that date back to when railroad easement tore properties apart. You would be very hard pressed or very well connected to get any new private crossings even on slow tracks. This is a major mainline; private crossings are being eliminated to prevent these wrecks.
You find RR crossing guards at the entrance to Farmington(hardly public) and one at the entrance to West Liegh, money talks again.
Burro Crane

Charlottesville, VA

#17 Nov 20, 2012
The people at Farmington are idiots. i see them parked on the track daily.

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