Legal battle over Navajo ranch land c...

Legal battle over Navajo ranch land continues

There are 21 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Dec 31, 2010, titled Legal battle over Navajo ranch land continues. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

Navajo ranchers who are in danger of losing their land under a competitive bid process still are wrangling in court.

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M Clah

Phoenix, AZ

#1 Jan 1, 2011
For protection

one point, the BIA CFR is part of the foundation
history has taken place and keeping with that tradition to keep the lease procedure going is good
another point, life revolves around money, might have to try drilling for oil and be for management of a wellpad area
another point, to back your protection beliefs up with worship to promote law compliance with the government, buy a three month bond on web with scott trade such as us treasury bill and us treasury. with the bond, you can realize your compliance plans and head to your goal accomplishments, know where the government laws are and understand how it is,

another point, even if you do not have an oil field, investing with online brokerage is really the only way to get funds to come in with a treasury bill and treasury note and save from the one two three stocks such as household goods soap, personal items, more items. to buy the oil helps spread out everything, to not have the oil may constrict you

another point, the medicine man has his rights I realized that if I was ever at a ceremony of many then that particular man was protected by the BIA with AIRFA So anyone that has passed on technically, their ceremony lives on and all of it is protected, especially favorable for life and survival so history was established with BIA CFR on Indians, jail sentence with its procedural still works.. 21 days in jail seems reasonable versus staying in prison for more days or years. It is understandable that BIA is a part of the foundation and doing what it says is part of the foundation. I know it, CFR Indians, helps us survive yet with the treaties and treaty rights. The foundation is in place because of history. That is important. No matter what, I realized I could not change from the ceremonial experience and that protection. That protection was in place and has endured, with leniency. leniency is important when we are forever educating ourselves and still grow. We need USA We need USA religion foundation of protestant, catholic, and mormon. The strength is with for english learning. The lawful power is with the foundation and USA. If you are not a gambler, then you are not a gambler. The shanks are out there and occur with diversity. There is no sure dependence on a casino. People do die off because they accumulate so much debt. Getting control of where we stand with historic tribal debts and personal debts is the "for" part. We have choices to be positive. The positive way helps us live more.
M Clah

Phoenix, AZ

#2 Jan 1, 2011
snake oil is where the money is at too

you might be in Durango, Colorado, for a visit and not know it and pick up some python oil or anaconda in town

then we top that all off with a burger and fries for more oil power and get with the investment bracket I stress investment because you can have more vittles you can come to town for more supplies you can have more with more oil diversity

then top it some more with your olive oil prayer at dawn or morning time

oiling the chain for bicycle ride is normal for around here

oil changes are so important to our transportation success to get 50 miles to and from a town all the time having gas money all the time to get to town in the summer to cool off with ice supplies
for fire supplies such as kerosene for heating purposes, to thaw out "coke oven" on us and rinse it away

you would find out how much more money you make with all this networking and a us treasury bond bill and note, oil stock, home depot stock, soap stock, and gold jewelry stock silver and gold belt history metal recycling notice paper cash gas money for travel to get supplies

You must try getting a laptop computer to get started with web You always need your supplies for the entire lifetime
Cowgirl

Rio Rancho, NM

#3 Jan 1, 2011
The grazing rights go to the highest bidder, price is based on one cow and one calf - so what is wrong with that.
Again a none story, by DT.
GACuster

Tuba City, AZ

#4 Jan 1, 2011
The current bidding by Navajo Resources Department is probably a wake-up call to the Navajo Ranchers. Navajo Ranchers have gotten lazy and took for granted the privilege offorded to them by the Navajo Nation. The Ranchers have neglected their responsibilities of maintaining the rangeland and their livestock. In some instances, the Lessor Ranchers live elsewhere in other states, thereby neglecting the herds altogether. Finally, failure to keep up the monthly payments finally broke the camel's back. Now, they are complaining and blaming everybody else but themselves. I'd say, if you own or intend to own a herd of livestock, you better know how to care for them. We see too many livestocks grazing along the highways day and night causing accidents and nobody around to care for them.

“come to Richie,, ”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#5 Jan 1, 2011
Long Live Malvina Clah
Sic

Tuba City, AZ

#6 Jan 1, 2011
M Clah wrote:
For protection
one point, the BIA CFR is part of the foundation
history has taken place and keeping with that tradition to keep the lease procedure going is good
another point, life revolves around money, might have to try drilling for oil and be for management of a wellpad area
another point, to back your protection beliefs up with worship to promote law compliance with the government, buy a three month bond on web with scott trade such as us treasury bill and us treasury. with the bond, you can realize your compliance plans and head to your goal accomplishments, know where the government laws are and understand how it is,
another point, even if you do not have an oil field, investing with online brokerage is really the only way to get funds to come in with a treasury bill and treasury note and save from the one two three stocks such as household goods soap, personal items, more items. to buy the oil helps spread out everything, to not have the oil may constrict you
another point, the medicine man has his rights I realized that if I was ever at a ceremony of many then that particular man was protected by the BIA with AIRFA So anyone that has passed on technically, their ceremony lives on and all of it is protected, especially favorable for life and survival so history was established with BIA CFR on Indians, jail sentence with its procedural still works.. 21 days in jail seems reasonable versus staying in prison for more days or years. It is understandable that BIA is a part of the foundation and doing what it says is part of the foundation. I know it, CFR Indians, helps us survive yet with the treaties and treaty rights. The foundation is in place because of history. That is important. No matter what, I realized I could not change from the ceremonial experience and that protection. That protection was in place and has endured, with leniency. leniency is important when we are forever educating ourselves and still grow. We need USA We need USA religion foundation of protestant, catholic, and mormon. The strength is with for english learning. The lawful power is with the foundation and USA. If you are not a gambler, then you are not a gambler. The shanks are out there and occur with diversity. There is no sure dependence on a casino. People do die off because they accumulate so much debt. Getting control of where we stand with historic tribal debts and personal debts is the "for" part. We have choices to be positive. The positive way helps us live more.
So, what's your point?
Chief

Tuba City, AZ

#7 Jan 1, 2011
M Clah wrote:
snake oil is where the money is at too
you might be in Durango, Colorado, for a visit and not know it and pick up some python oil or anaconda in town
then we top that all off with a burger and fries for more oil power and get with the investment bracket I stress investment because you can have more vittles you can come to town for more supplies you can have more with more oil diversity
then top it some more with your olive oil prayer at dawn or morning time
oiling the chain for bicycle ride is normal for around here
oil changes are so important to our transportation success to get 50 miles to and from a town all the time having gas money all the time to get to town in the summer to cool off with ice supplies
for fire supplies such as kerosene for heating purposes, to thaw out "coke oven" on us and rinse it away
you would find out how much more money you make with all this networking and a us treasury bond bill and note, oil stock, home depot stock, soap stock, and gold jewelry stock silver and gold belt history metal recycling notice paper cash gas money for travel to get supplies
You must try getting a laptop computer to get started with web You always need your supplies for the entire lifetime
Year 2010 is over and if you are rehashing some illogicals, sober up and smell the coffee... this is 2011, jerk!!!!
The kid

United States

#8 Jan 1, 2011
M Clah wrote:
For protection
one point, the BIA CFR is part of the foundation
history has taken place and keeping with that tradition to keep the lease procedure going is good
another point, life revolves around money, might have to try drilling for oil and be for management of a wellpad area
another point, to back your protection beliefs up with worship to promote law compliance with the government, buy a three month bond on web with scott trade such as us treasury bill and us treasury. with the bond, you can realize your compliance plans and head to your goal accomplishments, know where the government laws are and understand how it is,
another point, even if you do not have an oil field, investing with online brokerage is really the only way to get funds to come in with a treasury bill and treasury note and save from the one two three stocks such as household goods soap, personal items, more items. to buy the oil helps spread out everything, to not have the oil may constrict you
another point, the medicine man has his rights I realized that if I was ever at a ceremony of many then that particular man was protected by the BIA with AIRFA So anyone that has passed on technically, their ceremony lives on and all of it is protected, especially favorable for life and survival so history was established with BIA CFR on Indians, jail sentence with its procedural still works.. 21 days in jail seems reasonable versus staying in prison for more days or years. It is understandable that BIA is a part of the foundation and doing what it says is part of the foundation. I know it, CFR Indians, helps us survive yet with the treaties and treaty rights. The foundation is in place because of history. That is important. No matter what, I realized I could not change from the ceremonial experience and that protection. That protection was in place and has endured, with leniency. leniency is important when we are forever educating ourselves and still grow. We need USA We need USA religion foundation of protestant, catholic, and mormon. The strength is with for english learning. The lawful power is with the foundation and USA. If you are not a gambler, then you are not a gambler. The shanks are out there and occur with diversity. There is no sure dependence on a casino. People do die off because they accumulate so much debt. Getting control of where we stand with historic tribal debts and personal debts is the "for" part. We have choices to be positive. The positive way helps us live more.
What are you smoking?
wah

United States

#9 Jan 1, 2011
lol,this is the same corruption that goes on anywhere else.if ya dont like it,make some moves.wake up some people.!
JDY

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Jan 2, 2011
GACuster wrote:
The current bidding by Navajo Resources Department is probably a wake-up call to the Navajo Ranchers. Navajo Ranchers have gotten lazy and took for granted the privilege offorded to them by the Navajo Nation. The Ranchers have neglected their responsibilities of maintaining the rangeland and their livestock. In some instances, the Lessor Ranchers live elsewhere in other states, thereby neglecting the herds altogether. Finally, failure to keep up the monthly payments finally broke the camel's back. Now, they are complaining and blaming everybody else but themselves. I'd say, if you own or intend to own a herd of livestock, you better know how to care for them. We see too many livestocks grazing along the highways day and night causing accidents and nobody around to care for them.
NN ranch program lease contract was changed 4 times within 14 months. Why should we be blame for NN mismangement and corrution. In this country we should be awarded for are hard work not punished. NN mandated their will on us. The NN seek rights from the borders and other countries but does not afford its own members same opportunty to negotiate and to come to agreements. This decision is more Socialistin nature than democratic.Our ranch contract was approved 2 times before they went to the bid system. Being Human should overrrule politices.

Since: Dec 09

Tuscumbia, AL

#11 Jan 2, 2011
Brings back memories of the 1930 Federally imposed "Navajo Livestock Reduction" on the Dine? Although the Navajo people lost over 80% of their livestock, given the 'granted by the government' allotment of one male and one female sheep they increased their herds and reestablished their people's livelihood within a period of time.

I am beginning to wonder ... let me see ...'greed'....'oil'.... where? The government established by the the Dine seems to be linked hand in hand with the Federal Government. How long before you begin to see oil wells on your land where once your sheep grazed? Who will have the power and the investment in these wells? Where will your 'strength' as a people be? In your failing government? In your greedy government? Are you ready for the "Third Long Walk"?

YOU M CLAH! The ceremonial and traditional Medicine Man is one that brings back the people to 'peace' and back to the 'earth'... spiritually and without 'conflict'. You believe 'greed', suppressing your people with religion are not what is scattering the people? When the people were pulled away from their sacred 'roots' life became hard ... many have returned to these roots and have successfully become as one with the spiritual and material world. Where are you?

Dine! Take care of your lands and maintain that which is yours. Your roots are there! You will ultimately lose your lands because of the treaties established by the Federal Government and monitored by your established Government to your detriment! Study your 'grandfathered' treaties!
Lee Farmington

AOL

#12 Jan 2, 2011
I don't know But there is Gas and Oil on that land But thats a suit for another day
Lee Farmington

AOL

#13 Jan 2, 2011
If the Lands were returned to the rightful owners
(Mexico) the nation would get a better deal
JDY

Albuquerque, NM

#14 Jan 2, 2011
Lee Farmington wrote:
I don't know But there is Gas and Oil on that land But thats a suit for another day
Holy Spirit Created Rain, Farm,Range, Livestock and Us.
NN has 70%of our income which comes from gas,coal,non-renewable and natural resources
but when this is gone, what are we going to have - Land and livstock. We are caretakers. Take care of these animals, we are put here as caretakers. This what are Elders preach to us. Teaching our young people about Tradition and Culture and take care of god's animals.
Goyathlay

United States

#15 Jan 2, 2011
After being severely beaten, the white boxer (an oxymoron at best), mewls like a little girl, runs and hides. Alas, like a rodent, his malodorous stench betrays him. Clenching, begging, dirty tricks: head butting, elbows, sadly can't save him. Bye Bye, little one, to sleep you go.
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Still Oldies wrote:
Brings back memories of the 1930 Federally imposed "Navajo Livestock Reduction" on the Dine? Although the Navajo people lost over 80% of their livestock, given the 'granted by the government' allotment of one male and one female sheep they increased their herds and reestablished their people's livelihood within a period of time.
I am beginning to wonder ... let me see ...'greed'....'oil'.... where? The government established by the the Dine seems to be linked hand in hand with the Federal Government. How long before you begin to see oil wells on your land where once your sheep grazed? Who will have the power and the investment in these wells? Where will your 'strength' as a people be? In your failing government? In your greedy government? Are you ready for the "Third Long Walk"?
YOU M CLAH! The ceremonial and traditional Medicine Man is one that brings back the people to 'peace' and back to the 'earth'... spiritually and without 'conflict'. You believe 'greed', suppressing your people with religion are not what is scattering the people? When the people were pulled away from their sacred 'roots' life became hard ... many have returned to these roots and have successfully become as one with the spiritual and material world. Where are you?
Dine! Take care of your lands and maintain that which is yours. Your roots are there! You will ultimately lose your lands because of the treaties established by the Federal Government and monitored by your established Government to your detriment! Study your 'grandfathered' treaties!
Goyathlay

United States

#16 Jan 2, 2011
Down the middle to the gut. A love tap, followed by a kidney digger; so hard his false teeth rattle. What's next? His pea brain tries to guess, what was the last about? How to predict the next and what is it about? Shiver, shiver. CLENCH. CLENCH. Thats the best and only defense now. Beg, "I'm only trying to compliment you", LOL. Whimper, mewl, "Can't you play nice". Confusion, "Ooops, I posted to the wrong", Bye bye Oldie time for an newbie. Gonah, gojay. Bye Bye.
sam

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Jan 3, 2011
pretty interesting stuff. My dad's family has land near crownpoint.
from what I hear it's so regulated by the BIA b/c of coal, oil, gas and uranium findings, you can't do anything really useful with that land. Too much clay in the soil. Cant grow Hemp. LOL!
AND from what I have seen, the US Govt. and the NM state have BIG interests in resources. thats what the fight over the sacred sites at mt. taylor was about.
MY best guess is to get the BIA, FOREST DEPT. and the DEPT. of ENERGY out of and OFF, Navajo land, pure and simple.(in my dreams)
WAKE UP, NAVAJO's.
the WHITEMAN has come back for OUR land again.
This time using OUR own people against "Us"
:P
sam

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Jan 3, 2011
good points, guys...
Socialism has been praticed on the American Indian since the 1960's, maybe sooner than that.
Just like a prison camp. yes?
still in use today, I'M waiting for the Communists to come marching down WindowRock road coming to take away the Capital. LOL!
:P
JDY wrote:
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NN ranch program lease contract was changed 4 times within 14 months. Why should we be blame for NN mismangement and corrution. In this country we should be awarded for are hard work not punished. NN mandated their will on us. The NN seek rights from the borders and other countries but does not afford its own members same opportunty to negotiate and to come to agreements. This decision is more Socialistin nature than democratic.Our ranch contract was approved 2 times before they went to the bid system. Being Human should overrrule politices.
Shorty Nez

United States

#19 Jan 3, 2011
The tribally owned land is exactly that. It doesn't belong to one individual no matter what he or she has done to improve it. The land is held in trust for all Navajo, not just one family who operate as if it's their personal property. Posting no trespassing signs, locking access, intimidating people who wish to enjoy some of these areas.

It's like an off reservation private rancher who leases BLM land and operates as if the BLM land is his private property. The US government wouldn't tolerate that for a minute. We shouldn't either.
muzz

Denver, CO

#20 Jan 3, 2011
where in hell is our president of nnation? He needs to get his head out of his ass, and start working for us and our land.HE NEEDS TO SAVE OUR LIVESTOCK AND OUR LAND. Our elderly people already knew this will come sometime in the future and its here. We the Dine People need to keep fightin for what is ours Land. The whitemen only wants our land for oil/gas/uruimen/coal. But, we don't benefit from this. Our NNation Presidents is just pocketing what was supposed to be ours :PAYMENT"

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