ofcourse

Crossville, TN

#765 Sep 23, 2013
Van driver wrote:
<quoted text>
The poster did not say WHY these beer joint patrons have such a giving heart and willingness to help someone and does it really matter? It sure beats what a lot of hypocrite's do.
yes it matters. because of the sin ( drugs ) they were murdered. then they go and have a benefit at another sinful place ( beer joint where alcohol is sold at ) and it being done on a Sunday ( the Lords day.) then you have the nerve to call me or anyone who agrees with me a hypocrite! because of these drugs they were killed. this is no different then getting behind the wheel of a car when your so dang drunk and wrecking and killing yourself or hitting another car and killing them inside the car. because of the sinful act these were killed. if they were home where they should have been they would still be here. you cant sugarcoat sin and say its ok to do this or do that. when a parent lets their own children smoke dope and they smoke it themselves its letting their children think its ok to do these things. because of the fact that they let their own kids do this and sell the dope they are now without those kids. and instead of helping them to turn their life around they did not get the message because they held a benefit at a bar of all places. yes many will dis agree with me but dis agree all you want. its the cold hard truth and you know it! Yes they did not deserve to die like that, but they did die because of the sin of drugs. its not that un common to see or hear about many drug deals going bad. you hear about it all the time on the news. I hope and pray that this will teach others to leave the dang drugs alone. it is not worth it to lose your life over a tiny feeling of getting high for just a little while. God allowed this to happen because he does not interfere with a persons own will. they chose to do that and in doing so it cost them their life's, just like Jacob and his girlfriend. they chose to kill them to get that little bit of high and now their life is changed. the parents of these young kids chose to let them do this thinking its ok to do so and because of that these kids are gone. I know for a fact the parents and everyone here has seen on the news where drug deals go bad and people get killed. God allowed this to happen and to expose the sin of drugs for all to see.

now to young kids who may read this, do not just sit there and do nothing. if you see a friend doing drugs or even your parents, get them help ASAP, talk to a counselor at school, or even your minister, or a best friend. continuing to ignore it may cost them their life's just like it cost these 4 young kids their life on renegade mountain. I know for a fact people knew they sold drugs and used drugs but they did not get them help and now they are gone. it was a mistake that cost them their life, a sin that got them tooken away from us. don't let your friend or parent go down that road. they may get mad at you and curse you out but wouldn't you rather have them mad at you for a little while they getting help or dead and gone? see someone mixed up in this get them help because its the drugs that are controlling their life. sometimes It takes a thing called tough love to wake people up.
wilson

Cookeville, TN

#766 Sep 23, 2013
"
yankee wrote:
They could have thought they was at their friends house.I know mine maybe were not where they was to be at all times.The weekend they wanted to stay with friends.I just trusted those parents watched over my kids while there.I got my kids cell phone from age 13 to call and check on them.I know some times they could lie and I would have to go there each and every time to catch them.I do know they would tell me of people they knew who was doing bad things.I am sure the maybe had a beer here or there.I know that for a fact now.I was not happy about that.I do know if some one told me they was hanging with people selling dope.I would ground them and they would have me watching their every move. Then no one knew these kids were meeting this guy to sell him dope.That he was brininging his hefty gf and if wasted things may go wrong.I think they selling which is damgerous should have had a gun. Why did these kids have access to drugs to sell?Why was they ever taught that this is a good life to live?
what does his girlfriend being "hefty" have to do with anything?
the simple truth

Chattanooga, TN

#767 Sep 24, 2013
ofcourse wrote:
<quoted text>
yes it matters. because of the sin ( drugs ) they were murdered. then they go and have a benefit at another sinful place ( beer joint where alcohol is sold at ) and it being done on a Sunday ( the Lords day.) then you have the nerve to call me or anyone who agrees with me a hypocrite! because of these drugs they were killed. this is no different then getting behind the wheel of a car when your so dang drunk and wrecking and killing yourself or hitting another car and killing them inside the car. because of the sinful act these were killed. if they were home where they should have been they would still be here. you cant sugarcoat sin and say its ok to do this or do that. when a parent lets their own children smoke dope and they smoke it themselves its letting their children think its ok to do these things. because of the fact that they let their own kids do this and sell the dope they are now without those kids. and instead of helping them to turn their life around they did not get the message because they held a benefit at a bar of all places. yes many will dis agree with me but dis agree all you want. its the cold hard truth and you know it! Yes they did not deserve to die like that, but they did die because of the sin of drugs. its not that un common to see or hear about many drug deals going bad. you hear about it all the time on the news. I hope and pray that this will teach others to leave the dang drugs alone. it is not worth it to lose your life over a tiny feeling of getting high for just a little while. God allowed this to happen because he does not interfere with a persons own will. they chose to do that and in doing so it cost them their life's, just like Jacob and his girlfriend. they chose to kill them to get that little bit of high and now their life is changed. the parents of these young kids chose to let them do this thinking its ok to do so and because of that these kids are gone. I know for a fact the parents and everyone here has seen on the news where drug deals go bad and people get killed. God allowed this to happen and to expose the sin of drugs for all to see.
now to young kids who may read this, do not just sit there and do nothing. if you see a friend doing drugs or even your parents, get them help ASAP, talk to a counselor at school, or even your minister, or a best friend. continuing to ignore it may cost them their life's just like it cost these 4 young kids their life on renegade mountain. I know for a fact people knew they sold drugs and used drugs but they did not get them help and now they are gone. it was a mistake that cost them their life, a sin that got them tooken away from us. don't let your friend or parent go down that road. they may get mad at you and curse you out but wouldn't you rather have them mad at you for a little while they getting help or dead and gone? see someone mixed up in this get them help because its the drugs that are controlling their life. sometimes It takes a thing called tough love to wake people up.
With all due respect,,,Do you think there is no sin in churches? Ever read about the preachers, sunday school teachers and others in churches molesting young children,committing adultery ? Let those without sin cast the first stone.
me it is

Marble, NC

#768 Sep 24, 2013
xxxxxx wrote:
he walked up to the front of the car shot the driver and front seat passenger through the windshield then shot the 2 in the backseat.
Well that's why I asked why the front window was shattered out.Then he didn't even get his weed or the people didn't even get out.There were some saying they was out of car doing the weed deal.I stated they had to still been in vehicle for the window to be shot.I believe things happened before they was meeting for the sale.Then again was they attempting to leave since they wasn't getting paid.I think its tragic but still think parents need to do their own dealing. Where did they get the weed.
me it is

Marble, NC

#769 Sep 24, 2013
wilson wrote:
"<quoted text>what does his girlfriend being "hefty" have to do with anything?
Well she could take the kids and hold them.She was stout enough.Well if he shot through window like was told from new.Then some one on here said no window was shot,but showed it on news camera. I guess they thought they could escape.Why if they was in car didn't they speed away.
concerned

Cookeville, TN

#770 Sep 24, 2013
Which causes the most deaths illegal weed or legal alcohol? I'm not trying to judge, but if it had been legal maybe, 4 young people would not have been out that late setting up a deal in a place where no one else was around. I lost a young family member several yrs ago to a deal such as this. And in my opinion some of these senseless killings might stop if it was legalized. I don't use it or alcohol, but I hurt for the ones that are hooked, and at such a young age.
cheech

Davidson, NC

#771 Sep 24, 2013
concerned wrote:
if it had been legal maybe, 4 young people would not have been out that late setting up a deal in a place where no one else was around. in my opinion some of these senseless killings might stop if it was legalized..
OMG!.......WOW!
xxxxxx

Montréal, Canada

#772 Sep 24, 2013
me it is wrote:
<quoted text>Well she could take the kids and hold them.She was stout enough.Well if he shot through window like was told from new.Then some one on here said no window was shot,but showed it on news camera. I guess they thought they could escape.Why if they was in car didn't they speed away.
They charged HIM with 4 counts of PREMEDITATED murder plus 4 counts of felony plus a couple other charges.
He never intended to BUY any weed, he intended to kill and rob them that's why he shot 2 through the windshield to begin with that way no one could drive away or much less even get out of the car.The 2 in the back seat had no time to run.I believe it was a .40 cal glock which no doubt had a 17 round magazine which could be emptied into the car in approximately 7 to 9 seconds, not much time to escape considering the element of surprise.
trivia

Crossville, TN

#773 Sep 24, 2013
xxxxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe it was a .40 cal glock which no doubt had a 17 round magazine which could be emptied into the car in approximately 7 to 9 seconds, not much time to escape considering the element of surprise.
Not that it really matters, but the .40 Glock 22 normally holds 15 rounds, not 17.
concerned

Cookeville, TN

#774 Sep 24, 2013
cheech wrote:
<quoted text>
OMG!.......WOW!
Do you have a better solution "cheech"? The system we have now is not!! working, read my lips not working, we are losing way tooo many young people to drugs.
april

Crossville, TN

#775 Sep 24, 2013
For those people that have a problem going to a benefit at a bar, there is going to be one at the pleasant hill community center.
xxxxxx

Montréal, Canada

#776 Sep 24, 2013
trivia wrote:
<quoted text>
Not that it really matters, but the .40 Glock 22 normally holds 15 rounds, not 17.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock_22

The Glock 22 is a pistol manufactured by Glock. It is essentially a Glock 17 modified to fire .40 S&W ammunition (instead of the 9x19mm Parabellum fired by the 17). It uses a modified slide, frame,.40 S&W barrel and magazine but otherwise appears nearly identical to the Glock 17. The gun comes standard with 2 (3 if Gen 4) 15-round magazines; 17 & 28 round magazines (that will function in other .40-caliber Glock handguns) are also available. Also available for certain states and countries that ban magazines of over 10 rounds are 10-round magazines.
trivia

Crossville, TN

#778 Sep 24, 2013
I have a 17 as well as a 21 (.45 cal). They are exceptionally well-engineered weapons.
xxxxxx

Montréal, Canada

#779 Sep 24, 2013
trivia wrote:
I have a 17 as well as a 21 (.45 cal). They are exceptionally well-engineered weapons.
Very well said, i have the .40's in subcompact and compact as well as the 9's ,i would trust them with my life.
I do see about everyone wants the high cap. mags which i don't especially care for. The standard mag. is sufficient as far as i'm concerned.
Signs

Crossville, TN

#780 Sep 24, 2013
I used to/ ansd still do see the signs on hwy 127 that says Alcohol #1 drug killer/troublemaker....very true.... The problem with marijuana is (illegal) but also paranoid/ users/ people use to "come down easily" off other drugs( pills, meth, coke) and those uses are extremely unpredictable.
Uum

Dalton, GA

#781 Sep 24, 2013
ofcourse wrote:
<quoted text>
yes it matters. because of the sin ( drugs ) they were murdered. then they go and have a benefit at another sinful place ( beer joint where alcohol is sold at ) and it being done on a Sunday ( the Lords day.) then you have the nerve to call me or anyone who agrees with me a hypocrite! because of these drugs they were killed. this is no different then getting behind the wheel of a car when your so dang drunk and wrecking and killing yourself or hitting another car and killing them inside the car. because of the sinful act these were killed. if they were home where they should have been they would still be here. you cant sugarcoat sin and say its ok to do this or do that. when a parent lets their own children smoke dope and they smoke it themselves its letting their children think its ok to do these things. because of the fact that they let their own kids do this and sell the dope they are now without those kids. and instead of helping them to turn their life around they did not get the message because they held a benefit at a bar of all places. yes many will dis agree with me but dis agree all you want. its the cold hard truth and you know it! Yes they did not deserve to die like that, but they did die because of the sin of drugs. its not that un common to see or hear about many drug deals going bad. you hear about it all the time on the news. I hope and pray that this will teach others to leave the dang drugs alone. it is not worth it to lose your life over a tiny feeling of getting high for just a little while. God allowed this to happen because he does not interfere with a persons own will. they chose to do that and in doing so it cost them their life's, just like Jacob and his girlfriend. they chose to kill them to get that little bit of high and now their life is changed. the parents of these young kids chose to let them do this thinking its ok to do so and because of that these kids are gone. I know for a fact the parents and everyone here has seen on the news where drug deals go bad and people get killed. God allowed this to happen and to expose the sin of drugs for all to see.
now to young kids who may read this, do not just sit there and do nothing. if you see a friend doing drugs or even your parents, get them help ASAP, talk to a counselor at school, or even your minister, or a best friend. continuing to ignore it may cost them their life's just like it cost these 4 young kids their life on renegade mountain. I know for a fact people knew they sold drugs and used drugs but they did not get them help and now they are gone. it was a mistake that cost them their life, a sin that got them tooken away from us. don't let your friend or parent go down that road. they may get mad at you and curse you out but wouldn't you rather have them mad at you for a little while they getting help or dead and gone? see someone mixed up in this get them help because its the drugs that are controlling their life. sometimes It takes a thing called tough love to wake people up.
I hate to bust your holier than thou bubble BUT marijuana is a naturally grown herb. Yes My GOD and yours made it. Marijuana was not the cause of this...stupidity was.
concerned

Cookeville, TN

#782 Sep 24, 2013
xxxxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
Very well said, i have the .40's in subcompact and compact as well as the 9's ,i would trust them with my life.
I do see about everyone wants the high cap. mags which i don't especially care for. The standard mag. is sufficient as far as i'm concerned.
I'm not trying to be a smarty pants, but why does anyone need that much gun power?
concerned

Cookeville, TN

#784 Sep 24, 2013
Reef shark wrote:
<quoted text>Ask the ones in the car.
Could they have done anything different? From what I've read they were ambushed, so if they were, no matter how many weapons they had, the outcome would have been the same. It's just so sad and it breaks my heart to think about this, because I lost a family member last year under similar circumstances. Gun power is not always the answer.
Leon

Chattanooga, TN

#785 Sep 25, 2013
concerned wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not trying to be a smarty pants, but why does anyone need that much gun power?
I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ either but why do people need 2 or 3 automobiles sitting in their driveway ? Why does the antique collectors need their houses full of old items?
If the occasion ever arises close to you or your family you might can answer your own question. thanks
concer

Cookeville, TN

#786 Sep 25, 2013
Leon wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ either but why do people need 2 or 3 automobiles sitting in their driveway ? Why does the antique collectors need their houses full of old items?
If the occasion ever arises close to you or your family you might can answer your own question. thanks
They don't need that many vehicles or antiques. But they have the right to have them same as we have the right to own guns. But guns in the wrong hands kill, I'm talking about mentally ill people and I think you would have to be mental to do what these killers done. That is why I questioned why anyone needs that much gun power. The gun makers does not care what happens after they sell the guns they're only after the money. Gun manufacturing is a big business. I just wish there was some way we could keep the guns away from the mentally ill.

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