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The shootings we are all witnessing show a disturbing trend in American society.
Is it time to consider gun control?
Do citizens really need access to assault weapons that is as simple as filing a component?
Why do we have a love affair with weaponry?
We don't see other nations having these discussions.

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Gunner wrote:
The shootings we are all witnessing show a disturbing trend in American society.
Is it time to consider gun control?
Do citizens really need access to assault weapons that is as simple as filing a component?
Why do we have a love affair with weaponry?
We don't see other nations having these discussions.
Don't they stone people to death in the Middle East? Hanging, if you steal don't they cut off the hand? WHY, is there a "disturbing trend". If guns disappear, will it stop? Assailant in AZ, taken off campus by police, CO, under mental health supervision, OR upset over "missing a plane and depressed". After 9/11, what was the phrase coined? "See something, Say something". Maybe it's time to "re-evaluate" the mental health system.
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In the Middle East the punishment you refer to is carried out by the authorities. Whether we agree or not, it is their culture.
The shootings I refer to are performed by people that have easily obtained guns.
When discussion turns to background and mental aptitude checks it becomes an assault on the very fiber of American Heritage.
We need to stop thinking guns are Gods.

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Dec 14, 2012
 
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In the Middle East the punishment you refer to is carried out by the authorities. Whether we agree or not, it is their culture.
The shootings I refer to are performed by people that have easily obtained guns.
When discussion turns to background and mental aptitude checks it becomes an assault on the very fiber of American Heritage.
We need to stop thinking guns are Gods.
I thought the "families" carried out the deed in the Middle East. Anyway, exactly what shootings do you "refer"to that are performed by easily obtained guns? To purchase a gun you have a background check. Why not have a mental health check? It's not public knowledge any of the NICS information. An informed public is better than an armed public don't you think?
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I can buy a gun from craigslist in a matter of hours. If I tap friends, I can beat the hours and do it in minutes. That's pretty easy in my book.
It seems to me, anytime we talk tightening gun laws the IRA goes bezerk and starts a near riot with the gun lovers.

I have guns and enjoy them, I do realize we have to limit assault weapons and availability for any kook out there.
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Guns don't kill pepole. People do . Gun control will only keep honest people from getting guns. Crooks and killers will get guns if they want them . I say if they are going to have a gun then I want one bigger and better than their's .
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That's the mentality that's gotten us to where we are.
Guns don't kill people? Hard to shoot a bullet without a gun brother.
When you have guns being sold like a loaf of bread you're going to have these problems. The same old same old hasn't worked has it?

You simply don't need assault weapons on the street. And yes, It could be stopped if the NRA quit griping like a beaten stepchild every time someone says "control".

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I can buy a gun from craigslist in a matter of hours. If I tap friends, I can beat the hours and do it in minutes. That's pretty easy in my book.
It seems to me, anytime we talk tightening gun laws the IRA goes bezerk and starts a near riot with the gun lovers.
I have guns and enjoy them, I do realize we have to limit assault weapons and availability for any kook out there.
When people buy a gun off line like that you are taking a lot of risk. Stolen, illegal, etc. What if we looked closer at the people, not an object. How about only allowing guns to be purchased through FFL holders? Of course that will not stop the kid in OR from stealing one. The world is a changin' and the public is not the same. As you said "kooks".
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I agree with the sales being controlled more stringently. The problem arises when the NRA and it's supporters attempt to start a Revolution based on lies and exaggerations.
We need to address this problem, it seems to be more and more pronounced as time passes.

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I agree with the sales being controlled more stringently. The problem arises when the NRA and it's supporters attempt to start a Revolution based on lies and exaggerations.
We need to address this problem, it seems to be more and more pronounced as time passes.
%To me, the freedom to purchase a gun has nothing to do with "Revolution". Again, another shooter who has a "disorder" was allowed access to a firearm and the end result...death.
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Gunner wrote:
That's the mentality that's gotten us to where we are.
Guns don't kill people? Hard to shoot a bullet without a gun brother.
When you have guns being sold like a loaf of bread you're going to have these problems. The same old same old hasn't worked has it?
You simply don't need assault weapons on the street. And yes, It could be stopped if the NRA quit griping like a beaten stepchild every time someone says "control".
It's not gun control it's drug control . Stop giving people drugs that make them do insane things. How many people kill that arn't on controlled druge - alcohol or street drugs.And no you will not get my guns.
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More NRA folks hollered and cried when Obama was re-elected than over this school tragedy.
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<quoted text>It's not gun control it's drug control . Stop giving people drugs that make them do insane things. How many people kill that arn't on controlled druge - alcohol or street drugs.And no you will not get my guns.
No offense, you really are off target with your insane accusations and interpretations. Show me one of these mass murderers that was on drugs and I'll show you an objective NRA member.
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What Is A Low Keel wrote:
More NRA folks hollered and cried when Obama was re-elected than over this school tragedy.
The crying has reached Biblical proportions.

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No offense, you really are off target with your insane accusations and interpretations. Show me one of these mass murderers that was on drugs and I'll show you an objective NRA member.
Loughner chose not to return, rather than having the mental health evaluation and clearance which would have been required for him to re-enroll.[74][75] He had two previous offenses, one of which was for drug possession.[76] U.S. Army officials said that Loughner had attempted to enlist, but his application had been rejected as "unqualified" for service in 2008.[75] They declined further disclosure due to confidentiality rules,[60][74][77] although an administration official indicated to the media that this was because of a failed drug test.[78]
Certainly they were aware that his life had begun to unravel over the past year, that for reasons still unclear he was living as a near recluse. He was behaving erratically too, trawling adult sex sites, taking drugs and leaving neighbours in the Denver suburb of Aurora with the impression he was deeply troubled.

Police believe he had grown fixated by the Batman films and there are unconfirmed reports he became hooked on the narcotic prescription painkiller Vicodin, which was found in the system of Heath Ledger, the

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Connecticut School Shooting Points to a Disturbing Link Between Age, Psychiatric Medís and Mass shootings

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In the last six months, there have been at least three horrific shootings in public places that have been perpetrated by young men in their 20ís, who were taking or had taken psychiatric medís.There was the theater shootings in Aurora, Colorado. The sole suspect James Holmes killed 12 and injured 58. His age at the time of the shootings was 25 and he was being seen by three mental health professionals prior to the massacre. Then there was the Portland Oregon area mall shooting earlier this week. The shooter was 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts, who killed two people and took his own life. Then there is todayís Connecticut School Shooting. The shooter was 20 year-old Adam Lanza who killed 20 children and 7 adults and took his own life. Is it a coincidence that all three shooters were in their 20&#8242;s and that is around the same time mental disorders tend to show up in men? Could it be true that all three of these homicidal young men, and others like them, suffer from mental illness? Could proper treatment have prevented these tragic events? Maybe.

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For the record I'm not an NRA member. I AM a gun owner. We start giving kids meds in school at what age?
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I understand you were able to link two shooting sprees to meds, or lack of in one case. Not to mention, a little too early in the other.
Imagine the possibilities if people were left untreated?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/m...

I am also a gun owner, however, I do not see the need for citizens owning assault weapons. I believe we need legislation limiting availability of weapons to certain people. In a civilized society there have to be laws and rules and they cannot be cherry picked.
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Could it be true that all three of these homicidal young men, and others like them, suffer from mental illness? Could proper treatment have prevented these tragic events? Maybe.

This from the article you posted. Are we agreeing?

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Could it be true that all three of these homicidal young men, and others like them, suffer from mental illness? Could proper treatment have prevented these tragic events? Maybe.
This from the article you posted. Are we agreeing?
I think that sometimes children are "over medicated". The popular drugs today are prescription, according to the media and friends of mine who have college kids. It's almost like a "fad". I heard a guy not long ago, saying his daughter was "acting out" in school. Put her on meds and she's fine, during the week. On weekends though, "I let her be herself and not make her take it". OK, can you say emotional roller coaster for that girl. She's 10 YEARS OLD! Some people get proper treatment, then go off meds, that's when there are problems. If you have a "contagious" illness that is a threat to the public, doesn't the CDC step in? Would it not be prudent to let the FBI know the result of someone going off medication MIGHT be mass murder? Maybe it's time to reevaluate some of the "privacy medical laws" when it comes to mental illness.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/world/asia/...
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People don't need guns for carnage.

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