Job Corps is worth a second look

Job Corps is worth a second look

There are 621 comments on the Kentucky.com story from Mar 22, 2009, titled Job Corps is worth a second look. In it, Kentucky.com reports that:

I know teachers who received pink slips last year and haven't found work yet. I also have unemployed friends who ran training programs to help others find work and now are fighting the sense of uselessness that sometimes accompanies joblessness.

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son in KY at Earl C

Jacksonville, FL

#22 Mar 29, 2009
son in KY at Earl C wrote:
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So, what happened? If you went and you were the exception to those "underachievers" why are you now so bitter... Did you drop out? Why did you drop out? Yea my son talked about not going back during his last break after seeing all his friends and visiting his old school and we got into more fights those two weeks than ever before - he did go back and no I did not MAKE him go back he choose to... and now he loves it again and thanked me for pushing him to finish...
okay - so maybe loves it was a bit strong... he loves the future it offers... and FYI my son was there when that last storm hit (had only been there for 4 months) and the center lost all power and had riots, buildings set on fire... they removed all the girls to a local hotel for their safety but the boys had to stay with all the fights, no food, no warmth... for two days one night and my sons bus (the last one to leave of course) did not pull out to head home till midnight... no cell phones (b/c no power to charge them) to call and say I'm okay... so it was VERY stressful for mom... My son had his most valuable worldly possession stolen during all that... and yea it was hard to fight with him to go back... but bottom line look at LA after Katrina or CA after an earthquake - all the looters... it is part of living in todays world... so you can either get angry and bitter or you can look it in the eye and say bring it on baby... b/c no matter what I'm going to win! and put up a fight to achieve your dreams/goals...
confussed

Sunbright, TN

#23 Apr 1, 2009
KellB wrote:
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I don't have my degree, yet.
Job Corp in East KY.. the Carl D. Perkins one is awful. I would never send my child there. I know this from experience.
I thought Carl D. Perkins school was for those who have special needs?
The Informer

Oneida, TN

#24 Apr 1, 2009
Alright, dumbass. Obviously you do not know much about the program. There is no "qualifying" as far as income is concerned. The only real "qualification" is that the student is between the ages of 16-24 upon enrollment.
employer wrote:
My problem with these types of programs is that an upper middle class white kid will never get a chance to go there. I know this through my experience with the Laborers union. They'll never "qualify".How bout we stop rewarding people who, for the most part, choose to underachieve and start rewarding the ones who work hard and try to achieve.
son in KY at Earl C

Jacksonville, FL

#25 Apr 2, 2009
confussed wrote:
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I thought Carl D. Perkins school was for those who have special needs?
Job Corps is not for special needs... maybe at risk children...
son in KY at Earl C

Jacksonville, FL

#26 Apr 2, 2009
The Informer wrote:
Alright, dumbass. Obviously you do not know much about the program. There is no "qualifying" as far as income is concerned. The only real "qualification" is that the student is between the ages of 16-24 upon enrollment.
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Yes you do have to "qualify" financially... you have to be considered poverty level... I have 3 children and was laid off from work and barely was poor enough to qualify for my son to attend... If I got a job making minimum wage even with 4 dependents I would not "qualify" financially. Minimum wage was too rich... It is REALLY low income to qualify... basically you have to be on unemployment or not working to qualify... that was in 2008...
wife

West Liberty, KY

#27 Apr 3, 2009
job corps, my opinion. Your Rose is a homewreckrer. She couldn't even wait for the ink to dry on a divorce before moving in with a man. Thats just a personal opinion. The comapny sucks
Citizen K

Charleston, WV

#28 Apr 3, 2009
confussed wrote:
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I thought Carl D. Perkins school was for those who have special needs?
No you're thinking of that rehabilitation center in Paintsville.. It is also named after Carl D. Perkins.. It's for people that have special needs.
dontlisten

Winchester, KY

#29 Apr 3, 2009
there are students at that place that dont belong due to thier income levels..it is a place for the underprivlaged and there are students there that are sons and daughters of local poloticians i know this because i was there for 18 months.. they go to the no-resedential program but they qualify cuase they use thier grandparents address and income level..not fair to the ones that really need it
Jim

Oneida, TN

#30 Apr 3, 2009
KellB wrote:
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I don't have my degree, yet.
Job Corp in East KY.. the Carl D. Perkins one is awful. I would never send my child there. I know this from experience.
Thats because Carl D is for kids who are lower functioning.
Jay

Oneida, TN

#31 Apr 3, 2009
son in KY at Earl C wrote:
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Job Corps is not for special needs... maybe at risk children...
Trust me there are plenty of special needs kids there
Citizen

Charleston, WV

#32 Apr 4, 2009
Jay wrote:
<quoted text>Trust me there are plenty of special needs kids there
Wrong.
There are two different Carl D. Perkins centers in question. One is the job corps center in Prestonsburg, mostly for troubled kids, kids who didn't graduate, etc.
Then the Rehab center in Paintsville is for kids who were "slow learners" in school, maybe even mildly mentally retarded.

Since: Apr 09

Prestonsburg, KY

#33 Apr 4, 2009
What bothers me is why are the students so closely watched on outings to stores and such and not allowed much freedom? makes me wonder if underage law breakers are here just to hide in the hills and are we safe?

Since: Apr 09

Hazard, KY

#34 Apr 5, 2009
scared_shitless wrote:
What bothers me is why are the students so closely watched on outings to stores and such and not allowed much freedom? makes me wonder if underage law breakers are here just to hide in the hills and are we safe?
The children are bad to shoplift, fight, just generally cause trouble, etc. They have started getting more freedom while on outings, as of lately.
Underage law breakers are all over, it's not restricted to Job Corps and it sure isn't just restricted to Eastern Kentucky.
son in KY at Earl C

Jacksonville, FL

#35 Apr 5, 2009
scared_shitless wrote:
What bothers me is why are the students so closely watched on outings to stores and such and not allowed much freedom? makes me wonder if underage law breakers are here just to hide in the hills and are we safe?
When they enter Job Corps the government takes responsibility for them... So, as a responsible parent (so to speak) they watch their children and once the child earns it they receive more "allowance" - they get a pay raise... and more freedoms... which is what most responsible parents do also... Yes they make $25.00 every two weeks when they arrive and then once they earn it they get a pay raise... It is not b/c they are law breakers but b/c the gov't has taken responsibility of the child from their family and they don't want to get sued if the child gets hurt or comes up missing...
son in KY at Earl C

Jacksonville, FL

#36 Apr 5, 2009
dontlisten wrote:
there are students at that place that dont belong due to thier income levels..it is a place for the underprivlaged and there are students there that are sons and daughters of local poloticians i know this because i was there for 18 months.. they go to the no-resedential program but they qualify cuase they use thier grandparents address and income level..not fair to the ones that really need it
How do you know they don't really need it... From what I discovered there are no more Tech schools... and lets face it not all kids are cut out for college... Job Corps was the closest thing to a Tech school we could find... and personally I think anyone should be allowed to go if they are truely looking/wanting what it offers... income should not stop you... lets face it some of those low income are only getting all those perks b/c they know how to work the system so why should those with a job who pay taxes not get the same benefit... even the rich have children not cut out for college...

Since: Apr 09

Hazard, KY

#38 Apr 6, 2009
Happy Democrat wrote:
The whole issue with job corp is u put a bunch of troubled kids togethor and there is always trouble.
These kids aren't getting jobs 9 out ot10 are there to keep from going to juvy.
They stuck them in Menifee co because they are all bums too and too dumb to notice what is going on.
They are all minorities. They can go to college for free.
Cut the program and let them go to college where they at least will drop out in a couple of semesters. Tax savings
Exactly!
& the big thing is that they tell these kids that only a handfull of them can go to college at the local technical college. When in reality ( like you said ) most are minorities and could go for free or next to free.
I don't know if that is a tactic to keep them enrolled at Job Corps or what.
son in KY at Earl C

Jacksonville, FL

#39 Apr 6, 2009
Happy Democrat wrote:
The whole issue with job corp is u put a bunch of troubled kids togethor and there is always trouble.
These kids aren't getting jobs 9 out ot10 are there to keep from going to juvy.
They stuck them in Menifee co because they are all bums too and too dumb to notice what is going on.
They are all minorities. They can go to college for free.
Cut the program and let them go to college where they at least will drop out in a couple of semesters. Tax savings
WOW - can we say ignorant dumbass... Truely the only thing to describe this comment...
son in KY at Earl C

Jacksonville, FL

#40 Apr 6, 2009
BeanBag wrote:
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Exactly!
& the big thing is that they tell these kids that only a handfull of them can go to college at the local technical college. When in reality ( like you said ) most are minorities and could go for free or next to free.
I don't know if that is a tactic to keep them enrolled at Job Corps or what.
Dumbass #2 jumping on board...

Since: Apr 09

Hazard, KY

#41 Apr 6, 2009
son in KY at Earl C wrote:
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Dumbass #2 jumping on board...
I'm a dumbass because I disagree with you? Thats crazy. I am entitled to my own opinion.
Glad Job Corps has worked for your son and you're all PRO job corps but I think it's an awful place, and very misleading, and WTF is with the 25$ every two weeks?
One

Macon, GA

#42 Apr 6, 2009
this area needs more schools for kids like those at our job corps

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