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Resident

Midlothian, IL

#1 Dec 21, 2012
Received two e mails this a.m one from Gary Carr who is running for Trustee saying Crestwood is 41 Millon Dollars in debt with a trial and 131 lawsuits to good.Lou Presta sent one saying. NO its just 3 Millon. Big or Small why are we in debt at all?
Brandy

Midlothian, IL

#3 Dec 21, 2012
look it up wrote:
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After I looked it up for myself on cookcountytreasurer.com it looks like Toscas and Carr are telling the truth.
I tryed to look this up but can,t How did you do it? Lou said we would get are rebates back.
look it up

Chicago, IL

#4 Dec 21, 2012
Brandy wrote:
<quoted text>I tryed to look this up but can,t How did you do it? Lou said we would get are rebates back.
You go to the website and click taxing district financial statement then you have to click search by agency name and type in crestwood. Lou is lying to people it's impossible to give a rebate. I heard he planed on giving people a rebate of $1 so that he can say he kept his promise. There's no way of giving people a rebate that's worth anything. I was a Presta supporter but not anymore. He lies, stay away from him he's slim.
Brandy

Midlothian, IL

#5 Dec 21, 2012
You must be a c.p.a. I can see we owe a lot of money but how much I dont know.I cant support anyone that let Chester run wild. Thanks for the help.
look it up

Palos Hills, IL

#6 Dec 21, 2012
Brandy wrote:
You must be a c.p.a. I can see we owe a lot of money but how much I dont know.I cant support anyone that let Chester run wild. Thanks for the help.
Haha I had a CPA help me understand it.
Joe F

Midlothian, IL

#7 Dec 22, 2012
Resident wrote:
Received two e mails this a.m one from Gary Carr who is running for Trustee saying Crestwood is 41 Millon Dollars in debt with a trial and 131 lawsuits to good.Lou Presta sent one saying. NO its just 3 Millon. Big or Small why are we in debt at all?
The water is killing us in more then one way !
Lou p

Midlothian, IL

#8 Dec 22, 2012
Resident wrote:
Received two e mails this a.m one from Gary Carr who is running for Trustee saying Crestwood is 41 Millon Dollars in debt with a trial and 131 lawsuits to good.Lou Presta sent one saying. NO its just 3 Millon. Big or Small why are we in debt at all?
Sorry
Pop

Midlothian, IL

#9 Dec 22, 2012
My rotton sons drink das water and now day hate me the mudderfunkers
Twisted Facts

Indianapolis, IN

#10 Dec 23, 2012
Yes Crestwood has debt just like every other town and most people. It is like a resident having a mortgage. That is a debt. Crestwood is 1 of only a handful of municipalities who has not taken a loan out to pay for their debt. This was explained to me by a CPA. He also said they are probably adding the TIF into that equation which is being paid for from sales tax generated by the stores in the TIF district. He said it is someone twiting the facts in order to try and prove a point. Lawsuits aside the CPA said it looks like Crestwood is in good shape financially and the lawsuits could go either way. There is no gurantee anyone may or may not win any lawsuits and there is leagl avenues if by chance Crestwood got hit with a large settlement. Ith the ruling in favor of Crestwood against the class action suits being allowed this will make it very cost prohibative for an individual to sue in hopes of winng a settlement against Crestwood. It is all very confusing to most of us and the politicans will spin it in their favor to try and win votes.
look it up

Palos Hills, IL

#11 Dec 23, 2012
Twisted Facts wrote:
Yes Crestwood has debt just like every other town and most people. It is like a resident having a mortgage. That is a debt. Crestwood is 1 of only a handful of municipalities who has not taken a loan out to pay for their debt. This was explained to me by a CPA. He also said they are probably adding the TIF into that equation which is being paid for from sales tax generated by the stores in the TIF district. He said it is someone twiting the facts in order to try and prove a point. Lawsuits aside the CPA said it looks like Crestwood is in good shape financially and the lawsuits could go either way. There is no gurantee anyone may or may not win any lawsuits and there is leagl avenues if by chance Crestwood got hit with a large settlement. Ith the ruling in favor of Crestwood against the class action suits being allowed this will make it very cost prohibative for an individual to sue in hopes of winng a settlement against Crestwood. It is all very confusing to most of us and the politicans will spin it in their favor to try and win votes.
Hey listen moron the city of Orland park doesn't even have 41million in debt and their operating budget is 20 times of crestwoods and their population is 6 times as many. I had a CPA explain it to me before I posted it and he said he can't believe the amount of debt. So don't come on here with your nonsense. I proved my point, you haven't proved anything. We are using our cash to pay for these criminals legal bills and were borrowing money to run the rest of the town. Does that make sense to you? That would be like you spending your own money to pay for a friends bills and you taking a loan out to pay your own bills. That's the most backwards shit I've ever seen and if you think that's the way to run a town then you have bigger problems then our village finances.
Real Mature

Blue Island, IL

#12 Dec 23, 2012
look it up wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey listen moron the city of Orland park doesn't even have 41million in debt and their operating budget is 20 times of crestwoods and their population is 6 times as many. I had a CPA explain it to me before I posted it and he said he can't believe the amount of debt. So don't come on here with your nonsense. I proved my point, you haven't proved anything. We are using our cash to pay for these criminals legal bills and were borrowing money to run the rest of the town. Does that make sense to you? That would be like you spending your own money to pay for a friends bills and you taking a loan out to pay your own bills. That's the most backwards shit I've ever seen and if you think that's the way to run a town then you have bigger problems then our village finances.
Real mature name calling. Show me where we are borrrowing money. I too found where it stated Crestwood is one of a handful of goverment agencies that has not taken a loan out to pay for their debts. Go look it for for yourself and please try to be mature and leave the name calling where it belongs on the playground. Where is your proof we are borrowing money to make the bills.
Black Heart

Midlothian, IL

#13 Dec 23, 2012
The mall is 97% full. Cicero is 99% full thanks to Bill G the village director.All the money we owe is on the backs of the old Trustees saying yes to Chet. Not one trustee every said no to Chet.Run the well, yes Chet screw the people that work for you over, yes Chet .Now we have a Cheat sorry Chet trustee running for Mayor. If we owe money 43 million or 3 million it will not end till the water lawsuits end and that will be after we are rid of the old trustees that lead us down this road
Black Heart

Midlothian, IL

#14 Dec 23, 2012
Black Heart wrote:
The mall is 97% full. Cicero is 99% full thanks to Bill G the village director.All the money we owe is on the backs of the old Trustees saying yes to Chet. Not one trustee every said no to Chet.Run the well, yes Chet screw the people that work for you over, yes Chet .Now we have a Cheat sorry Chet trustee running for Mayor. If we owe money 43 million or 3 million it will not end till the water lawsuits end and that will be after we are rid of the old trustees that lead us down this road
This was not a vote for Toscas ad it was a vote no on all old trustees like lou His party has good people running Dan J. for one.All I ask is do not vote party lines.Vote for the best person.One party rule got us into this crap.After the first of the year both partys will be knocking on your door ask them the things matter to you. This is like the Arab Spring for the first time we can pick a Mayor
look it up

Blue Island, IL

#15 Dec 23, 2012
Black Heart wrote:
<quoted text>This was not a vote for Toscas ad it was a vote no on all old trustees like lou His party has good people running Dan J. for one.All I ask is do not vote party lines.Vote for the best person.One party rule got us into this crap.After the first of the year both partys will be knocking on your door ask them the things matter to you. This is like the Arab Spring for the first time we can pick a Mayor
Dan is great friends with Lou and the old trustees and stranzeks. I mean sure he wasn't on the board with them but he's with them and has been for years. so how can you trust someone that affiliates themselves with a guy like Lou Presta. Like I said in my first or second post I know Lou very well and I know Toscas too and it's not even a contest on who is smarter or who would be a better leader! Toscas is FAR more intelligent then Lou, hands down! Have a conversation with both of them and you can tell that. Look, vote for who you want it's totally your right but I'm searing clear of anyone that has to do with Presta and his people and I'm gonna point that out to anyone I can.
JIM - Crestwood

Melrose Park, IL

#16 Dec 24, 2012
I just received an email from Cook County Treasurer, Maria Pappas. If you want to see how important and detrimental debt is, not only in the U.S., but in our small Village of Crestwood, take a look at the article that was published in Forbes about debt in Villages, cities and local government.

Here is the link:http://www.forbes.com/sit es/larrybell/2012/12/18/cook-c ounty-illinois-treasurer-warns -u-s-homeowners-and-retirees-o f-local-debt-hazards/
Wrong

Blue Island, IL

#17 Dec 24, 2012
look it up wrote:
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Hey listen moron the city of Orland park doesn't even have 41million in debt and their operating budget is 20 times of crestwoods and their population is 6 times as many. I had a CPA explain it to me before I posted it and he said he can't believe the amount of debt. So don't come on here with your nonsense. I proved my point, you haven't proved anything. We are using our cash to pay for these criminals legal bills and were borrowing money to run the rest of the town. Does that make sense to you? That would be like you spending your own money to pay for a friends bills and you taking a loan out to pay your own bills. That's the most backwards shit I've ever seen and if you think that's the way to run a town then you have bigger problems then our village finances.
I work as a police officer for Orland Park. The village has incured a huge debt from the project at 143 Lagrange road alone. Over 75 million and growing. is a fact. The village officals are using the growing debt as an excuse not to give us a raise. So I do not know where you obtained your so called "facts" but they are wrong. Way wrong.
look it up

Blue Island, IL

#18 Dec 24, 2012
Wrong wrote:
<quoted text>I work as a police officer for Orland Park. The village has incured a huge debt from the project at 143 Lagrange road alone. Over 75 million and growing. is a fact. The village officals are using the growing debt as an excuse not to give us a raise. So I do not know where you obtained your so called "facts" but they are wrong. Way wrong.
Oh how continent that the town I mention is the one you work for. And I'm getting my fact from the COOK COUNTY TREASURER! Is that a credible enough source for you? Maybe you can ask Lou Presta I'm sure his facts are right. I'm say facts sited from a real source, your saying fake shit sited from your ass and calling them facts. Dream on you want to debate me site some sources!
Source

United States

#19 Dec 24, 2012
look it up wrote:
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Oh how continent that the town I mention is the one you work for. And I'm getting my fact from the COOK COUNTY TREASURER! Is that a credible enough source for you? Maybe you can ask Lou Presta I'm sure his facts are right. I'm say facts sited from a real source, your saying fake shit sited from your ass and calling them facts. Dream on you want to debate me site some sources!
Gary, google it the Southtown has several article on the money Orland has invested in the project. Also please site where you stated Crestwood has borrowed money unable to find that so called fact anywhere. It seems you don't like or have a hard time when someone challenges you. So what if he does or does not work for Orland Park police although why would someone post that either way who cares he was right in his facts and proved you wrong. That seems to me what you are upset about you were proven wrong
Gary Carr Look Up

Lansing, IL

#20 Dec 24, 2012
Source wrote:
<quoted text>Gary, google it the Southtown has several article on the money Orland has invested in the project. Also please site where you stated Crestwood has borrowed money unable to find that so called fact anywhere. It seems you don't like or have a hard time when someone challenges you. So what if he does or does not work for Orland Park police although why would someone post that either way who cares he was right in his facts and proved you wrong. That seems to me what you are upset about you were proven wrong
You are the worst possible candiate for Trustee of Crestwood.
look it up

Blue Island, IL

#21 Dec 24, 2012
Source wrote:
<quoted text>Gary, google it the Southtown has several article on the money Orland has invested in the project. Also please site where you stated Crestwood has borrowed money unable to find that so called fact anywhere. It seems you don't like or have a hard time when someone challenges you. So what if he does or does not work for Orland Park police although why would someone post that either way who cares he was right in his facts and proved you wrong. That seems to me what you are upset about you were proven wrong
Cookcountytreasuer.com . I'm not going to say it again. It has all the financials and will show. So try challenging me again. And your claiming the Southtown as a source for Orlands financial? What a joke hmmmm I wonder which is a more reputable source Southtown of cook county treasurer? Ill take the treasurer.

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