Creston's residents reluctant to spea...

Creston's residents reluctant to speak about charges against former police officers

There are 57 comments on the Des Moines Register story from Dec 21, 2008, titled Creston's residents reluctant to speak about charges against former police officers. In it, Des Moines Register reports that:

Creston, Ia. - The gentle hills of southwestern Iowa rise and fall on the road leading here, past snow-dusted hay bales, farmsteads adorned with Christmas trees, abandoned barns and a sign for 'Al Tomlinson ...

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whatever

United States

#1 Jan 24, 2009
That is pure bull!
Woman Power

United States

#2 Jan 24, 2009
whatever wrote:
That is pure bull!
No it's not. No one wants to talk about it and that's a fact jack. Unless it is in the privacy of their own home with a small group of friends. This town as a whole has no backbone!
whatever

Greenfield, IA

#3 Feb 3, 2009
This is very true...All you hear and see is behind the backs of all included in this mess!
CRESTON

Overland Park, KS

#4 Feb 3, 2009
I really doubt that anyone would talk to reporters on any subject until it has become fact!!! Why run your mouth now unless you just want to exercise your jaw for all that crow later!!
Crow

United States

#5 Feb 4, 2009
I don't believe it is about eating the crow..It is just one of those VERY controversial topics. That makes it different. I am sure people have their view of it, but most will not speak of it unless they are in the surroundings of only a few at a time.
Woman Power

United States

#6 Feb 4, 2009
CRESTON wrote:
I really doubt that anyone would talk to reporters on any subject until it has become fact!!! Why run your mouth now unless you just want to exercise your jaw for all that crow later!!
I won't be eating any crow no matter what the outcome is. I am entitled to my opinion as you are yours, and I think they are GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY
Fresh Views

Omaha, NE

#7 Feb 4, 2009
Woman Power wrote:
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No it's not. No one wants to talk about it and that's a fact jack. Unless it is in the privacy of their own home with a small group of friends. This town as a whole has no backbone!
Woman Power, we have gone over this before. The punk reporter came down to make a name for himself by slamming a a small rural town. Just look at the people he tried to interview. Would he have tried that in Des Moines? Would he ask the Mayor of D.M. what he thought of a case involving two police officers? Possibly. But the owner of a car dealership in D.M.????? NO WAY! School Officials? LOL! Council Memebers? Business owners? Puhleeeze! The newspaper would fire him if he tried that in D.M.! First off, why did he pick such high profile people to question? Because he knew they would not answer and because it wasn't HIS town! Second, if he tried that in D.M. the business owners would have pulled thier advertising dollars out of the newspaper! Duh! So he came to Creston to make a name for himself. I honestly hope Mayor Woods called the D.M. Register to complain. Do you honestly believe he thought the Crestmoor manager was going to give him "the scoop"? Or was it sensationalistic journalism? Do you think she wanted to lose her job just so she could give some eager beaver the inside story?
I really don't know what else can be said about this incident without rehashing old news and gossip. The facts released so far have been discussed. We probably won't receive anymore facts until the trial.
Now as for your comment about no one in Creston having a backbone. Have you called the D.M. Register to tell them what you think about the case? Well how about it? I will get the reporter's email address for you....possibly a phone number.
Anyone else interested in calling the young reporter and spilling your guts?
Julie

Wichita, KS

#8 Feb 4, 2009
Fresh Views wrote:
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Woman Power, we have gone over this before. The punk reporter came down to make a name for himself by slamming a a small rural town. Just look at the people he tried to interview. Would he have tried that in Des Moines? Would he ask the Mayor of D.M. what he thought of a case involving two police officers? Possibly. But the owner of a car dealership in D.M.????? NO WAY! School Officials? LOL! Council Memebers? Business owners? Puhleeeze! The newspaper would fire him if he tried that in D.M.! First off, why did he pick such high profile people to question? Because he knew they would not answer and because it wasn't HIS town! Second, if he tried that in D.M. the business owners would have pulled thier advertising dollars out of the newspaper! Duh! So he came to Creston to make a name for himself. I honestly hope Mayor Woods called the D.M. Register to complain. Do you honestly believe he thought the Crestmoor manager was going to give him "the scoop"? Or was it sensationalistic journalism? Do you think she wanted to lose her job just so she could give some eager beaver the inside story?
I really don't know what else can be said about this incident without rehashing old news and gossip. The facts released so far have been discussed. We probably won't receive anymore facts until the trial.
Now as for your comment about no one in Creston having a backbone. Have you called the D.M. Register to tell them what you think about the case? Well how about it? I will get the reporter's email address for you....possibly a phone number.
Anyone else interested in calling the young reporter and spilling your guts?
I think you are comparing apples to oranges. The FACT is Creston is a small town. The mayor, city council members, police officers,car dealership owners are people everyone knows. You will see these people in Wal Mart, the grocery stores, and your children grew up with them...etc. That is the joy of leaving in a small town isn't it? Everybody knows everybody? OK, maybe not always a joy but it is the facts. In a small town people gather at the sale barn, the car dealership, talk at Wal Mart so it is a given that these people are going to know more than the mayor or business owners of a city the size of Des Moines. Surely you can see that part of it? Creston is not Des Moines. Des Moines population is approx. 482,000 and Creston is 7,600.

Just curious, have you ever lived in a small town?
Julie

Wichita, KS

#9 Feb 4, 2009
And by leaving I meant LIVING
Fresh Views

Omaha, NE

#10 Feb 4, 2009
Yes, I know Creston is a small town and Des Moines is large. That was not my point. What was the reporter's point? I disagree that the Mayor or council members in D.M. would know less about the situation. Truthfully how much more is there to say? Again, why did he target these people?
Yes, I have. I lived in Creston for 8 years. With 2 exceptions I know all the people he interviewed. The bottom line is there really isn't much left to say until the trial begins. AND you did not address why he targeted prominent people within Creston.
My point is this....he targeted certain people knowing they would not talk. Why didn't he interview people at Wal Mart? At Fareway? Hy-Vee?
Stalker's customers? Why he go to McKinley park and interview strangers? Why? Because they might actually talk to him! He wanted to paint Creston as closed minded red neck hicks trying to sweep a horrific incident under the rug! He suceeded!
Are you going to call him and grant him an interview? Any takers?
Julie

Wichita, KS

#11 Feb 4, 2009
Of course he targeted those people. Any interviewer worth his salt would have. I would imagine if Catie Couric arrived in Creston she would have tried the same thing. If you were an investigative reporter I imagine you would have too.

I have no idea why he did not target other people. I believe he should have also.

Have you called him for an interview?
Julie

Wichita, KS

#12 Feb 4, 2009
I do see your point though because it was the police chief and the police chief's assistant and the mayor of any size town should know them.
Fresh Views

Omaha, NE

#13 Feb 4, 2009
It wasn't investigative reporting though. He wasn't looking for unknown facts. He was asking high profile people about an incident that has not yet been resolved. Come to think of it....would it have been wise for the Mayor to say anything? Or the Council Member? The manager of Crestmoor? What if there is a future lawsuit against the city from either the victim or the former police officers?
Couldn't anything they said have been used as evidence? Proves my point, he targeted those who COULD NOT say anything in order to make the whole town look bad. Cheesy reporting, not investigative at all.
No I haven't called for an interview. I have nothing to add to what has already been reported. More importantly I am not referring to the residents of Creston as not having a back bone as Woman Power did either.
Fresh Views

Omaha, NE

#14 Feb 4, 2009
Just scanned the article again. What COULD the current Chief of Police legally say about the incident? And why on Earth ask the High School Principle? Sensationalism. Pure and simple.
Julie

Wichita, KS

#15 Feb 4, 2009
It is sensationlism. I am not defending the reporter either. He should have asked the local, non business owning, people what they thought. But, if I was a reporter I would have tried to get the leaders of the community opinions also.

I do believe, in Creston, there is a fear of retaliation for speaking.

I hope that you have this objective of an opinion on all news and just not this incident. If so, it is refreshing.
Fresh Views

Omaha, NE

#16 Feb 4, 2009
I try to look at things objectively. Sometimes it is hard to get past the "gut feeling" and look at all the angles. The gut feeling is not always correct.
As far as the feeling of retaliation goes I think that is common in small towns whether unfounded or not.
Thank you...it was a refreshing exchange!
Julie

Wichita, KS

#17 Feb 4, 2009
"Couldn't anything they said have been used as evidence? Proves my point, he targeted those who COULD NOT say anything in order to make the whole town look bad. Cheesy reporting, not investigative at all."

Nothing anyone said would have been used as evidence. It would be all hearsay.
Fresh Views

Omaha, NE

#18 Feb 4, 2009
But city officials were involved in the firing of the two clowns. And the Sheriff?!?!? What did he think he was going to say?
Lived there

Des Moines, IA

#19 Feb 5, 2009
Fresh Views wrote:
But city officials were involved in the firing of the two clowns. And the Sheriff?!?!? What did he think he was going to say?
"I'm friends with JC and will remain friends with him no matter what the outcome of the trial." Rick Piel the Creston Sheriff made this statement to the media or something along the lines of that and also drove JC home from his initial court hearing. Some of these people you are referring to, since you want to sound so unbiased and all, have made comments to the to the media in either support or quilt of the two men charged here. And you are stating that these "HIGH PROFILE" business people in Creston didn't want to answer questions. Well some of these "HIGH PROFILE" people have spoke before(except for the school principal)on this subject. Thank you for coming to their defense and supporting them by saying the reporter was "trying to make Creston look close minded". Well Creston can be very closed minded. I lived there also!
Fresh Views

Omaha, NE

#20 Feb 5, 2009
Lived there wrote:
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"I'm friends with JC and will remain friends with him no matter what the outcome of the trial." Rick Piel the Creston Sheriff made this statement to the media or something along the lines of that and also drove JC home from his initial court hearing. Some of these people you are referring to, since you want to sound so unbiased and all, have made comments to the to the media in either support or quilt of the two men charged here. And you are stating that these "HIGH PROFILE" business people in Creston didn't want to answer questions. Well some of these "HIGH PROFILE" people have spoke before(except for the school principal)on this subject. Thank you for coming to their defense and supporting them by saying the reporter was "trying to make Creston look close minded". Well Creston can be very closed minded. I lived there also!
Okay "Lived There"....other than the Sheriff, who in the D.M. Register article made previous statements or comments to the media?

Your quote: "Some of these people you are referring to, since you want to sound so unbiased and all, have made comments to the to the media in either support or quilt of the two men charged here."

Those are your words partner.
And what is this "quilt" you are referring to?

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